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ppanther

I saw my daughter's heart beating 7 weeks post-conception. And I've seen a miscarriage at about that same stage. It's a freaking semi-human gelatinous blob, a fully formed baby. Why are some of you so obsessed with this weird "miscarriage" argument? It proves nothing about when life begin...

ppanther

ppanther, if my math is correct, 26 weeks or 40 weeks are both well beyond the first trimester. The bottom line is potential versus actuality. Until that fetus survives the entire process, it exists only as potential life. The mother has already achieved the immutable status of personhood; her fetu...

ppanther

I put up ONE: A fetus isn't a viable person until it's viable beyond the womb. If it cannot survive without being dependent on the cocoon of another's body, no, it is not yet a viable human being. Pretty fucking logical, since human beings don't live inside other human beings Not that logical, real...

ppanther

PSU, you just provided a perfect example of someone who has failed to understand what I said about Christ's sacrifice. Way to "dance around" it. I'll be quite plain - yes, I do not understand what you've said about Christ's sacrifice. In no way does your response answer the questions that...

ppanther

PSU, you just provided a perfect example of someone who has failed to understand what I said about Christ's sacrifice. Way to "dance around" it.

ppanther

My question to 'tart, ppanther, and anyone else who chooses to chime in is do those NT verses serve as the basis for today's moral opposition on the part of many Christians to laws being passed granting rights to gays and generally accepting their lifestyle? If it wasn't mentioned in Romans or anyw...

ppanther

Don't dance around the question being asked. If you don't want to address it, that's fine. ?? I'm sorry, but you're accusing me of "dancing around" a question that wasn't really asked of me. Nice. To answer, I don't believe the OT and NT are at odds. There, question answered, and with as ...

ppanther

I think I take your meaning here. Once we stop asking all the hard questions and cease being critical or thinking analytically, then it all will start to make sense, right? No, and no one ever said that. I really am amazed that seemingly intelligent people can't get past this. I mean it's fine if y...

ppanther

No offense to poptart, ppanther, and a few others who seem like good people, but... ...the last place I wanna go when I die is anywhere where 99% of the people who claim to be Christians think they're gonna be. I'm not sure why you'd think this post would be offensive to me or anyone else. My feeli...

ppanther

Cool take, PP. So apparently you disagree with me that sacrificing a human being to a God is a primitive notion? I was responding to the under-informed questions about Christians and whether or not they are bound by the Law. So now you're asking my opinion about the subject of a sacrifice to God? N...

ppanther

Salvation was promised before the Law of Moses. The Law defines righteousness. It defines sin. God and sin are not compatible. No one (except Christ) has ever been or will ever be able to keep the law perfectly. The point of the law is to show us we are unable to keep it. Salvation, as promised in G...

ppanther

look, you said that omnipotence (which is unlimited power) and control of all things are not the same thing Are you really having a problem with that distinction? Really? I'm just trying to get a handle on what aspects of human existence he controls and those that he doesn't (akin to what biblical ...

ppanther

but lets say I acquiesce to YOUR assumption that this entity has opted to cede control over everything he created.... Can you please stop falsely stating MY assumptions? I never said that God "ceded" control over "everything he created" (in bold, no less). I have no need to part...

ppanther

I doubt you could have control without power, but it is totally possible to have power and choose not to control.

ppanther

Felix, do you not understand that power and control are two different things? I need to know this before I know if your garbage is worth answering. TIA

ppanther

he doesn't control everything, in which case he's not omnipotent

Controlling everything is not a condition of omnipotence. Your argument is illogical.

ppanther

velocet,

I actually forgot about his comment, and now still don't feel it warrants much attention. I don't have time for that kind of absurdity these days.

I hope you're well!

ppanther

Sam, Calm down. Van and I have been having this discussion in bits and pieces over the past decade. He's told me he's desperately wished he could find faith. That's why I asked him if he'd truly sought it. No need for you to get riled up about it. Riled? Me riled? Where was I riled? Goddammit! Show...

ppanther

Well if everybody felt that way, 88's thread on the main forum would never have gotten to 6 pages. And then where would we be? So ppanther, how's your little one doing? Is one enough, or are more on the way? Goober, she is a fantastic, freakishly tall (no, really) 6-month-old who absolutely dominat...

ppanther

Van, Conversations with God (underlining it feels like I'm giving it a little too much respect...ugh) is a ridiculous book that is super appealing to people who want to be Christian but also desperately want to believe they do not sin. A person who buys what that book is selling is basically rejecti...

ppanther

Thanks for answering, Van. For the record, I read that book that was recommended to you, and it's the only book I think I've ever actually placed in a trash can. I couldn't fathom the thought of being any part of anyone else ever reading it. I couldn't even donate it. I'm out the door right now, but...

ppanther

I am, and I can also guarantee you that I am hardly alone. I'm just curious, Van. What have you done in the past decade that would count as an honest attempt at finding faith? You told me nearly 10 years ago that you wished you were able to have it, and you're saying the same thing now. Have you ac...

ppanther

It absolutely amazes me how anyone can put any stock in the bible. Between all the rewrites, reinterpretations, motives behind the rewrites, etc., it's a joke. Assuming one who puts stock in the Bible tries his or her best to live by its words, why would it bother you so much? There is nothing wron...

ppanther

So then, you use melted air and a full cup of seasoning and make a paste? Coat some fish, then spray it with light olive oil?

This doesn't sound very umami to me.

ppanther

Good grief.

You people are worse than an office full of women!

ppanther

It will never cease to amaze me that people like Felix honestly believe themselves to be capable of rational discussion about religion.

There's nothing rational about that kind of bitterness.

ppanther

Oh my bad, $20/unit was a little on the low side.

http://www.fresnocitycollege.edu/index.aspx?page=606

ppanther

That's 3,600 per SEMESTER. It's not even close to 3,600 per SEMESTER unless you're figuring in housing expenses. And then it might still not be 3,600, as it is Fresno. http://www.fresnocitycollege.edu/index.aspx?page=1434 I don't see housing broken out in that list of expenses. "Current Studen...

ppanther

That's 3,600 per SEMESTER.

It's not even close to 3,600 per SEMESTER unless you're figuring in housing expenses. And then it might still not be 3,600, as it is Fresno.

ppanther

Awesome. I read 'Mastering' for fun, just because the discussion of technique is so interesting. I cannot WAIT to get this book. I know there will be recipes that are fine for a smart diet. I'll become an expert on them. On another topic, I lied when I said I'd been on a cookbook moratorium -- I act...

ppanther

Because of you people, my cookbook moratorium has been lifted and I've ordered "Essentials of Italian Cooking" -- which will be GREAT to have given my desire to lose baby weight. Perfect. THANKS! :meds: Seriously though, I'm looking forward to reading and trying out some recipes. What shou...

ppanther

I am a big fan of steelhead. I couldn't remember if it was on the "OK" side on the dins-o-meter. Dins, your method makes lox. Very similar yet slightly different. I eat both the same way (even though gravlax is meant to be eaten with pumpernickel and mustard sauce). Nothing better for brea...

ppanther

I LOVE pate a choux. So easy, so impressive. I have a recipe for whole grain pate a choux that is supposedly really, really good. I might try it soon.

ppanther

Dinsdale, stop reading now. Your delicate digestive tract could probably catch something just by reading about this. The rest of you: Any of you ever cure salmon (or other fish)? I have for Christmas Brunch for the past two years. I have decided that Christmas is not often enough, there is really no...

ppanther

Yum. I'm going to try this next week.

ppanther

You could go "traditional" for the enchilada setup... or at least what I know as traditional. Stick with the mushroom veloute, but don't make it too dense. Make it about the thickness of a bechemel for a baked pasta, maybe, or maybe even a little less think than that. Cook the chicken with...

ppanther

The turkey you're bringing sounds delicious. So I assume you won't be eating the "queso" (which just means cheese, by the way...), since it's not the best available option that will be made available to your starving, ghetto self? I'm a man of the people. Of course I'll have some. :lol: I...

ppanther

:lol: Yeah, the "ghetto" I live in really is the suck. When did I say anyone here lived in the ghetto, Indy? I'll be kind, because I really do not intend to get you all wound up. In cases such as these, when someone describes something as "ghetto", they are usually describing so...

ppanther

mvscal wrote:It's the Cooking Forum not the Food Snob forum.

I don't like Velveeta, Miracle Whip, or Spam. I like almost everything, but not those three things. For real.

If that makes me a snob, I can deal with it.

ppanther

Indy, you are too easily provoked. Have you never stuck anyting in your gullet you knew would not be the best thing you have ever eaten in the mindframe you're just hungry with no better option? If you say no, you lie. Of course I have. But in my entire life, Velveeta has never been my only option. ...

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