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The more you talk, the more you reveal that you don't understand.

You do understand that that state taxes exist, right? And that Congress has no authority to reduce state taxes.
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Roux wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 12:39 pm The more you talk, the more you reveal that you don't understand.

You do understand that that state taxes exist, right? And that Congress has no authority to reduce state taxes.
The states do, don't they? My state has no income taxes.
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Every state has state taxes, be it income, property, sales, other, or more likely, a combination of them.

Every state has poor people who rely upon SNAP benefits to eat.

Every state will see an increase in their obligation to fund the program, assuming the budget bill becomes law as it passed the House.

Granted, because Louisiana has one of the highest percentages of citizens on SNAP, we will be hit harder than most.
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There is no Constitutional right to welfare. And, in our society, the criteria for receiving money taken from your neighbors to support yourself is and should be determined by your neighbors.

If the people of Louisiana believe that welfare should be handed out to their citizens in larger amounts and without verification, efforts to work etc., than the federal government now believes is appropriate for federal assistance, they can vote their state taxes higher and provide those benefits. If they do not feel that way, the people adversely affected could move to a different state that provides additional benefits.
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You're trying to make a point, but it isn't relative to the Congressional budget bill.

Congress isn't changing the amount of SNAP benefits, it is just making the states pay for a greater portion of it.
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mvscal wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 12:05 pm
Roux wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 2:24 am Ah, you want higher taxes. Well ok, enjoy then.
The bill extends the tax cuts, idiot. Higher taxes is what you'll get if it fails.
Wrong.
The tax cuts were only for those who are in the highest tax brackets. The rest of us would probably benefit if those tax cuts went away.
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Diego in Seattle wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 3:01 pm
Wrong.
The tax cuts were only for those who are in the highest tax brackets.
Link?
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Sudden Sam wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 3:23 pm
Diego in Seattle wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 3:01 pm
Wrong.
The tax cuts were only for those who are in the highest tax brackets.
Link?
Is your Google search engine broken?
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I thought we were talking about the current bill.
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Diego in Seattle wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 3:46 pm
Sudden Sam wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 3:23 pm
Diego in Seattle wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 3:01 pm
Wrong.
The tax cuts were only for those who are in the highest tax brackets.
Link?
Is your Google search engine broken?
I love it when DiS thinks he made a point but his post only reinforces how stupid he is.

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88BuckeyeGrad wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 4:51 pm
Diego in Seattle wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 3:46 pm
Sudden Sam wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 3:23 pm
Link?
Is your Google search engine broken?
I love it when DiS thinks he made a point but his post only reinforces how stupid he is.

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Oh really?
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Diego in Seattle wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 5:14 pm
88BuckeyeGrad wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 4:51 pm
I love it when DiS thinks he made a point but his post only reinforces how stupid he is.

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Oh really?
https://www.pgpf.org/article/chart-pack ... ual-taxes/

How could you possibly cut the federal income taxes of the lower two quintiles of federal income taxpayers that presently do not pay any federal income taxes (and have not done so for decades)? Think about it. And once you've accepted that there is no possible way to cut the federal income taxes of people who do not pay federal income taxes, riddle me how any federal income tax cut could not preferentially cut the taxes of people who actually pay federal income taxes moreso than it does for those who do not. Then go back and read your first post quoted here. And then slink away from this thread for a while like you always do when the softball bat of reason smacks you solidly in your dome. You are a progtard wind-up toy. You believe nonsense because you are programmed to do so. It is mathematically impossible to provide preferential federal income tax cuts to people who already do not pay federal income taxes.

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Diego in Seattle wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 5:14 pm
88BuckeyeGrad wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 4:51 pm
I love it when DiS thinks he made a point but his post only reinforces how stupid he is.

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Oh really?
Thanks for the link. Looks like everyone will pay less taxes. Nice.
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Sudden Sam wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 6:27 pm Looks like everyone will pay less taxes. Nice.
It’s such a travesty! And to think, some people believe that the government can lower tax rates and simultaneously collect more tax revenue in dollars!! That’s just pure mystique and nonsense!! :lol:
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Sudden Sam wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 6:27 pm
Diego in Seattle wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 5:14 pm
88BuckeyeGrad wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 4:51 pm

I love it when DiS thinks he made a point but his post only reinforces how stupid he is.

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Oh really?
Thanks for the link. Looks like everyone will pay less taxes. Nice.
That would be fewer taxes. Less tax money.

Sorry. I can’t help myself.
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88BuckeyeGrad wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 6:10 pm
I love it when DiS thinks he made a point but his post only reinforces how stupid he is.


How could you possibly cut the federal income taxes of the lower two quintiles of federal income taxpayers that presently do not pay any federal income taxes (and have not done so for decades)? Think about it. And once you've accepted that there is no possible way to cut the federal income taxes of people who do not pay federal income taxes, riddle me how any federal income tax cut could not preferentially cut the taxes of people who actually pay federal income taxes moreso than it does for those who do not. Then go back and read your first post quoted here. And then slink away from this thread for a while like you always do when the softball bat of reason smacks you solidly in your dome. You are a progtard wind-up toy. You believe nonsense because you are programmed to do so. It is mathematically impossible to provide preferential federal income tax cuts to people who already do not pay federal income taxes.

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Mikey wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 1:05 am
Sudden Sam wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 6:27 pm
Diego in Seattle wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 5:14 pm
Oh really?
Thanks for the link. Looks like everyone will pay less taxes. Nice.
That would be fewer taxes. Less tax money.

Sorry. I can’t help myself.
Not a problem. In the real world I’m a grammar and spelling freak. I’ve been the go-to proofreader for decades.
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Softball Bat wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 4:22 pm Tim Apple

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I *ripped* Bidet for 4 years.

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88BuckeyeGrad wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 6:10 pm It is mathematically impossible to provide preferential federal income tax cuts to people who already do not pay federal income taxes.
Well that's fine and good.

But why are you limiting your focus to income taxes? The bill is substantially broader than that.

Perhaps this will help:
How Trump’s megabill transfers wealth in the US

Again, this is obscene. How the fuck is it a good idea to benefit billionaires over the middle class? Since Reagan brought us "trickle down", the middle class and less fortunate have been hurt more and more. Wealth disparity is worse now than at the time of the French Revolution.
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This is embarrassing. Sane people do not talk like this. The President of the United States should not talk like this.


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Roux wrote: Mon May 26, 2025 2:02 pm This is embarrassing. Sane people do not talk like this. The President of the United States should not talk like this.


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How is this embarrassing?

It is beyond refreshing to see a president speak the truth, and not spew BS for purposes of “decorum”.
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Presidents are supposed to unite our country, not divide citizens into "us" and "them". He literally is making his cult members view the rest of us as the enemy.

This is not normal, and you shouldn't try to pretend that it is.
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Sven Golly wrote: Mon May 26, 2025 2:44 pm
Roux wrote: Mon May 26, 2025 2:02 pm This is embarrassing. Sane people do not talk like this. The President of the United States should not talk like this.


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How is this embarrassing?
A widow with small crying children watching an American flag being folded 13 times & then presented on behalf of a grateful nation would be able to tell you why just the first 3 words are embarrassing.
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It is completely embarrassing.

As Roux said, the president is supposed to unite the people of the nation.

Not that this is new, but Dumpy is posting a completely incendiary rant that reads as if he has tear of frustration in his eyes.

And to top it off, he posted in ALL CAPS.

An emotional retard leads America.
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Roux wrote: Mon May 26, 2025 12:14 am
88BuckeyeGrad wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 6:10 pm It is mathematically impossible to provide preferential federal income tax cuts to people who already do not pay federal income taxes.
Well that's fine and good.

But why are you limiting your focus to income taxes? The bill is substantially broader than that.

Perhaps this will help:
How Trump’s megabill transfers wealth in the US

Again, this is obscene. How the fuck is it a good idea to benefit billionaires over the middle class? Since Reagan brought us "trickle down", the middle class and less fortunate have been hurt more and more. Wealth disparity is worse now than at the time of the French Revolution.
The middle class was gutted by 'free trade' scumbags who forced American manufacturers to compete with 3rd world shitholes using heavily state subsidized industries, slave labor and stolen technology, you fucking moron.

The ONLY person trying to stem that tide and return investment into American manufacturing is Trump, so don't try to pretend like you give a flying fuck about the middle class.
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Roux wrote: Mon May 26, 2025 3:10 pm Presidents are supposed to unite our country, not divide citizens into "us" and "them".
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Diego in Seattle wrote: Mon May 26, 2025 3:13 pm
Sven Golly wrote: Mon May 26, 2025 2:44 pm
Roux wrote: Mon May 26, 2025 2:02 pm This is embarrassing. Sane people do not talk like this. The President of the United States should not talk like this.


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How is this embarrassing?
A widow with small crying children watching an American flag being folded 13 times & then presented on behalf of a grateful nation would be able to tell you why just the first 3 words are embarrassing.
One trick pony. This asshole belongs in an asylum, not the White House.
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Roux wrote: Mon May 26, 2025 3:10 pm Presidents are supposed to unite our country, not divide citizens into "us" and "them". He literally is making his cult members view the rest of us as the enemy.

This is not normal, and you shouldn't try to pretend that it is.
Whatever, so call it the “new normal” then.

You bedwetting, handwringing wussies just can’t deal with reality.

We are never going back to the old normal, thank God.
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Even the local radio DJ, who usually puts on an obnoxious MAGA shtick, had a MUCH better Memorial Day message than the orange cancerous felon.

Reality? The reality is that we will recover from this disaster, and your children and grandchildren will be embarrassed that you supported him.
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Sven Golly wrote: Mon May 26, 2025 5:18 pm
Roux wrote: Mon May 26, 2025 3:10 pm Presidents are supposed to unite our country, not divide citizens into "us" and "them". He literally is making his cult members view the rest of us as the enemy.

This is not normal, and you shouldn't try to pretend that it is.
Whatever, so call it the “new normal” then.

You bedwetting, handwringing wussies just can’t deal with reality.

We are never going back to the old normal, thank God.
Gullible sycophant MAGAt. I would expect nothing less.
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The trump Presidency’s World-Historical Heist

He is taking self-enrichment to a scale never seen before in America.

Nothing to see here.

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Roux wrote: Wed May 28, 2025 6:07 pm
The trump Presidency’s World-Historical Heist

He is taking self-enrichment to a scale never seen before in America.

Nothing to see here.

Sincerely,
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World class, unbiased source as usual. :meds:

Do you ever venture outside of your media bubble?

It's no wonder you people with TDS have "the sky is falling" attitude.

There's a whole world of unbiased material to read out there.
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Don't like the facts?

Ignore them and attack the media source.

Check.


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Sven Golly wrote: Wed May 28, 2025 7:12 pm
World class, unbiased source as usual. :meds:

Do you ever venture outside of your media bubble?

It's no wonder you people with TDS have "the sky is falling" attitude.

There's a whole world of unbiased material to read out there.
Yes!!

Anything that contradicts your moronic gullible sycophancy is obviously biased. We already knew that.
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Sven Golly wrote: Wed May 28, 2025 7:12 pm
Roux wrote: Wed May 28, 2025 6:07 pm
The trump Presidency’s World-Historical Heist

He is taking self-enrichment to a scale never seen before in America.

Nothing to see here.

Sincerely,
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World class, unbiased source as usual. :meds:

Do you ever venture outside of your media bubble?

It's no wonder you people with TDS
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