It’s been a while… another on-line quiz:

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:38 pm

http://www.impossible-quiz.com/

If ya wanna forget the debates within some of the other threads for a bit, take this quiz. Pretty interesting… a mix of vocab, trivia, logic, etc..

15/20 for me.

Missed #11 and after reading the explanation as to why, it became more clear. That’s a pretty damned good question.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:05 pm

21 of 20

--smackaholic

Dr. Bob · Post by **Dr. Bob** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:25 pm

16

Reasons listed below like one of the questions

Missed first one because I did 2/36 for snake eyes instead of 1/36 (but there are TWO ones, dammit!)
Missed 12oz gold
Missed 'blue' because I used Oct (when DST 'ends' instead of begins)
Missed last one

Dr. Bob · Post by **Dr. Bob** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:28 pm

Ken wrote:
Missed #11 and after reading the explanation as to why, it became more clear. That’s a pretty damned good question.

The only reason I didn't miss this is because I came across it a long time ago (Marilyn Vos Savant I think). I've taught graduate level probability classes and this one still seems crazy every time I come across it.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:44 pm

15/20 time 19:38

the explanation on the probability one just gave me a headache.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:50 pm

mvscal wrote:21 of 20

--smackaholic

rack

Smackie Chan · Post by **Smackie Chan** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:31 pm

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:33 am

15

I guessed on the last five because I was getting tired of it and got three of those wrong. The one with the dice was a really stupid mistake on my part.

socal · Post by **socal** » Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:09 am

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:22 pm

18/20 in 12 minutes.

Although I was already familiar with the Monty Hall Dilemma (#11), but I would have figured it out regardless.

H4ever · Post by **H4ever** » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:35 pm

19/20 in 11 minutes 99.98% percentile

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:50 am

H4ever wrote:19/20 in 11 minutes 99.98% percentile

H4ever · Post by **H4ever** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:57 am

mvscal wrote:
H4ever wrote:19/20 in 11 minutes 99.98% percentile

I'm trying to one-up Dins....ya wanna help me out?

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:05 pm

I understand the explanation of the monte hall question, but, I still think it is wrong. It really is as simple as a 50/50 decision after one has been removed.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:36 pm

smackaholic wrote:I understand the explanation of the monte hall question, but, I still think it is wrong. It really is as simple as a 50/50 decision after one has been removed.

Stick to civics, and leave statistics/probablilities to the people with brains then.

Or you can use 3 pieces of paper and recreate the "dilemma" yourself. You'll find that switching doors results in exactly doubling your odds, over time.

How do you come up with 50/50 when dealing with 3 doors?

There's a 2-in-3 chance your initial guess is wrong, every time. Opening a door doesn't reduce or increase anything -- it merely gives you an unfair advantage in your 1-in-3 guess. Just because one of the doors is open, it does absolutely nothing to change your 1-in-3 odds. And since you know, for fact, that your initial guess had a 1-in-3 chasnce of being right, you also know, for fact, that the other 2 doors have a 2-in-3 chance of holding the prize.

Care to explain how those known odds of prize placement magically change due to the position of a door in front of it? Does the prize have sensors in it, and the ability to move itself should a door open in front of it?

No?

Then I guess those 2 doors you didn't pick still have a 2-in-3 chance of holding the prize. And when one of them is opened, guess what?

Yup, still 2-in-3. And your original selection is still 1-in-3. And since you know, for fact, one of the 2-3 chance doors has a goat behind it, guess what?

It means the remaining non-selected door has a 2-in-3 chance of holding the prize... nothing changed.

Since you're challenged in the probabilities department, we'll keep the lesson simple, and I won't get intoi the myriad otyher situations the same logic applies to -- certain card games being a prime example.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:38 pm

Dins, I understand the explanation, but it still seems to me that after one door has been exposed, it is simply an A/B pic. Guess I need to sit down with 3 pieces of paper and prove it to my self.

So, uhhh, when's the next civics test?

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:47 pm

smackaholic wrote:Dins, I understand the explanation, but it still seems to me that after one door has been exposed, it is simply an A/B pic. Guess I need to sit down with 3 pieces of paper and prove it to my self.

So, uhhh, when's the next civics test?

So, if there were 1000 doors and the host opened all except for your chosen door and one other (remember, he knows which door has the prize), you'd still remain with your original choice?

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:01 pm

Ken wrote:Guess I need to sit down with 3 pieces of paper and prove it to my self.

Or you can do it online: http://www.grand-illusions.com/simulator/montysim.htm

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:32 pm

went about 50/50 switching. Absolutely lost my ass, about 10% sticking with my choice. OK, I guess that's proof enough for me.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:44 am

This thread is proof enough for me that your 15/20 was a flat out lie.

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:11 am

Goober McTuber wrote:This thread is proof enough for me that your 15/20 was a flat out lie.

Wtf you talking about, you amoeba-brained shit stain?

Dr_Phibes · Post by **Dr_Phibes** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 6:09 am

Not a fan of these at all, culture and subjectivity play too large a role.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 6:19 am

Ahhhh, I see Kengina is trying to impress others once again. Perhaps he can join KC Scrote and IndyFrisco in a reach-around very soon. They love talking about themselves don't they?

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:24 pm

15/20.
I am smarter than 92% of the population, which is a number that is actually fairly close to nearly every achievement or IQ test I've ever taken.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:28 pm

Goober McTuber wrote:This thread is proof enough for me that your 15/20 was a flat out lie.

If I'm gonna make shit up, I'm gonna score myself a little better than a 75%. I will admit that I did pull a few correct answers right out of my ass. Real score should have been around 13, which I suspect is still better than your senile ass did.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:30 pm

Rooster wrote:15/20.
I am smarter than 92% of the population, which is a number that is actually fairly close to nearly every achievement or IQ test I've ever taken.

Same here. I used to think that was saying something, but, when I look around at the public general today, I realize it ain't all that.

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 · Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:52 pm

smackaholic wrote:public general.

Is this Dins Chum?

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:11 pm

Same here. I used to think that was saying something, but, when I look around at the public general today, I realize it ain't all that.

Very true. I suspect much of my ability to do well on achievement and IQ tests has less to do with sheer brainpower than gamemanship and analytical ability to process bits of information that impact the choice I make. For instsance, for the question regarding phobias, I didn't know what that specific fear was, but was able to take a semi-educated guess based on the preceding letter "a" which denotes a lack of of something. Hence I chose the one legged woman answer, thus getting it right.

I got through many classes and tests in high school and college in the same way. I was a horrible student, but have a knack for picking up details in passing. Couple that with simple probability of a standard multiple choice question where you can generally throw one question out of four for being obviously wrong, you're down to a 33% chance of getting it correct. Then add in an ability to suss out an answer from later or previous questions on the test or from information gleaned while sleeping in classs, and a 50/50 chance is pretty good odds.

However, it was on essay questions where I shined. I was a veritable Dr. Freeze for the snowy blizzards I could put down on paper.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:46 pm

I have that same dealio regarding tests. It's part being reasonably bright and part being good at ruling out bad answers and putting bits together to get possibly right answers. Unfortunately, that wasn't enough for UConn engineering school, so it was one and done and [homosmack softball] off to the navy [/homosmack softball].

BTW, I got that phobia one too, but completely pulled it out of my ass.

UCunt, Everything is Dins chum in this sordid clambake.

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:20 pm

Atomic Punk wrote:Ahhhh, I see Kengina is trying to impress others once again. Perhaps he can join KC Scrote and IndyFrisco in a reach-around very soon. They love talking about themselves don't they?

Sit down and STFU, you hermaphroditic freak show of the highest order. Speak when spoken to, asswipe.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:05 pm

Ken wrote:
Atomic Punk wrote:Ahhhh, I see Kengina is trying to impress others once again. Perhaps he can join KC Scrote and IndyFrisco in a reach-around very soon. They love talking about themselves don't they?
Sit down and STFU, you hermaphroditic freak show of the highest order. Speak when spoken to, asswipe.

Hi Kengina! How is that international dating scene working out for you? There are plenty of skanks in the good ole' USA for you to attempt to impress. All of that money you've spent on plane tickets, Visa stamps, hotels, etc. and you still can't get laid in a morgue.

You might want to try Lucas oil products for your hair next time?

H4ever · Post by **H4ever** » Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:44 am

Everybody's tough....and smart on the internet. When I see Dins I will fight him but not until I put the whoop on him in trivial pursuit.

Terry in Crapchester · Tue Dec 25, 2012 11:55 am

15. Would've had a 16 if I had referenced that world map I gave Lefty.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Tue Dec 25, 2012 2:56 pm

On the question about 4 choices of certain death/card/coin flips I went with the cyanide dinner. The other 3 choices are certain death. Eating cyanide isn't because it does not specify a lethal dose. It just says you will have cyanide for dinner.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:42 pm

smackaholic wrote:On the question about 4 choices of certain death/card/coin flips I went with the cyanide dinner. The other 3 choices are certain death. Eating cyanide isn't because it does not specify a lethal dose. It just says you will have cyanide for dinner.

OK.

I spent the 30 seconds or so it took to calculate the probabilities (in my head). It was kind of 10th grade math shit.

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:50 pm

smackaholic wrote:On the question about 4 choices of certain death/card/coin flips I went with the cyanide dinner. The other 3 choices are certain death. Eating cyanide isn't because it does not specify a lethal dose. It just says you will have cyanide for dinner.

Why are you even looking at, let alone considering, the certain death causes of each of the four choices? Actually, goobs was right- how you got 15 is one of the great mysteries of today.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:14 pm

Ken wrote:
smackaholic wrote:On the question about 4 choices of certain death/card/coin flips I went with the cyanide dinner. The other 3 choices are certain death. Eating cyanide isn't because it does not specify a lethal dose. It just says you will have cyanide for dinner.
Why are you even looking at, let alone considering, the certain death causes of each of the four choices? Actually, goobs was right- how you got 15 is one of the great mysteries of today.

got to 12 or 13 on smarts/SWAG. Pulled a few completely out of my arse.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:19 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
smackaholic wrote:On the question about 4 choices of certain death/card/coin flips I went with the cyanide dinner. The other 3 choices are certain death. Eating cyanide isn't because it does not specify a lethal dose. It just says you will have cyanide for dinner.

OK.

I spent the 30 seconds or so it took to calculate the probabilities (in my head). It was kind of 10th grade math shit.

went back and looked at it again. first time through i read it as this AND that, rather than OR. what can i say, my reading comp ain't as good as my civics.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Tue Dec 25, 2012 9:30 pm

smackaholic wrote:what can i say, my reading comp ain't as good as my civics.

Which is why there is no chance in hell you got 15 out of 20 correct on this particular test. Stop LYING about these tests, asshole. It's sad.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:28 am

EAD Mgoo.

What'd you score, BTW?