The magic of Dracula

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Does anybody here believe in Dracula?



Do you think Dracula roams the Earth in this day and age?

[poptart]

I don't believe in Dracula.


In the tale, Dracula rose from the dead and had many powers.

Some similarity to Christ.


I believe Jesus Christ rose from the dead and has ALL power in heaven and earth - Matthew 28:18.

Dracula could be killed, though, while Jesus can not be.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Dracula could be killed, though,

Then why does he keep coming back?

[poptart]

He's fictional.

Isn't there some special method that is supposedly the only way he can be killed?

Wooden stake through the heart, chop his head off, put garlic in his mouth...

I dunno.

Something like that, isn't it?

[Goober McTuber]

Stoker's story is far more believable than the bible.

Better written, too.

Now you’re just trolling, Sam. Whether you believe the Bible or not, I can’t think of any book other that the King James Version of the Bible that so completely demonstrates the breadth and majesty of the English language. It is very well written. In the King's English. Not the English y'all speak.

[Python]

Yes, he's trolling. I've told him before that he obviously has a hatred for Christianity and should really avoid this forum for just that reason. He can't help himself and has to constantly slam anything religious.

[Goober McTuber]

That didn't come across at all as a joke. No reason anyone would have guessed that you felt the Bible was a "beautifully written book". Sorry.

[Python]

So sorry. Forgot that Christians have no sense of humor.

Or rather that they feel that they should not be confronted with any opposing opinions.

Not at all. It's just that your act in here is old.

[Goober McTuber]

So sorry. Forgot that Christians have no sense of humor.

Or rather that they feel that they should not be confronted with any opposing opinions.

Just so you know, I'm not a Christian. And you weren't the least bit amusing.

[Python]

So that's all you ever do in here? You simply suggest that Christianity isn't a shining beacon? Now you're being dishonest about what you post. And the reason I give you a hard time it that I think you're a smart guy. Some of these other idiots, not so much.

[Felix]

Not at all. It's just that your act in here is old.

so you don't want to hear points of view that oppose yours?

christers are a dull lot

[poptart]

Sam is free and welcome to have whatever view he wants, Felix.
I'm sure Python agrees.

But he honestly has seldom brought anything for discussion other than, "It's ridiculous that anyone believes this crap."

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

You may not believe in Dracula, but I assure you, he's real to many of us.

Really real.

[poptart]

How is he real to you?

[Felix]

But he honestly has seldom brought anything for discussion other than, "It's ridiculous that anyone believes this crap."

that's pretty much my schtick...maybe I just elaborate a little more than sammy does

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Tom, as I see you've been posting in the Theology Forum as of late, allow me to posit this question to you.

Are you pro or anti Dracula?

Please word your response carefully, my friend. Much is at stake*.


* not intended as a pun

[Goober McTuber]

Tom is a knee-jerk right-winger. Dracula was a blood sucker so Tom will assume him to be “pro-entitlements”. Tom will not be down with Dracula. Though I think he does have a soft spot in his heart (and head) for the Wolfman.

[Tom In VA]

1. Vlad the Impaler most certainly existed.
2. There are cited cases of a Spiritual entity/entities entering a body.

So, sure, why not. Why couldn't the soul of Vlad the Impaler possess someone today ?

[Tom In VA]

Tom is a knee-jerk right-winger. Dracula was a blood sucker so Tom will assume him to be “pro-entitlements”. Tom will not be down with Dracula. Though I think he does have a soft spot in his heart (and head) for the Wolfman.

I think my knee-jerk reactions are pretty independent and centrist too though Goobs.

[Goober McTuber]

Tom is a knee-jerk right-winger. Dracula was a blood sucker so Tom will assume him to be “pro-entitlements”. Tom will not be down with Dracula. Though I think he does have a soft spot in his heart (and head) for the Wolfman.

I think my knee-jerk reactions are pretty independent and centrist too though Goobs.

I think I’d need a link or three before I’d buy that. :o

[Tom In VA]

That's funny Sam. But not what I'm referring to. Exploring some of the scientific research being done along these lines by reputable institutions such as the University of Virginia would be fascinating to me, I've heard of one compelling story, that of James Leininger. Detailed in a book and something I saw on Discovery a little bit ago.

Anyway, here's the link to the book and a review.

http://www.amazon.com/Soul-Survivor-Rei ... 0446509337

"Soul Survivor describes the case of James Leininger, a spectacular example of the phenomenon of young children who seem to remember previous lives. We are fortunate that one of our guides for the story is James' father Bruce, who approaches the situation with a critical attitude. His insistence on doubting each piece of information until it can be verified makes the eventual conclusion that James's parents reach--that he is indeed remembering the life of a deceased World War II pilot--well-earned. Anyone interested in the possibility of past-life memories, or anyone who thinks it can be easily dismissed, needs to read this book. " --Jim B. Tucker, M.D., Assistant Professor of Psychiatry and Neurobehavioral Sciences at the University of Virginia and author of Life Before Life: A Scientific Investigation of Children's Memories of Previous Lives


I'll try and get the name of the show I saw, it might have been "The Science of the Soul", but I'll hit you back with a confirmation.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Tom, what does your link have to do with Dracula? Help me focus on this.

[Tom In VA]

I sit corrected. My apologies comrade.

[mvscal]

You may not believe in Dracula, but I assure you, he's real to many of us.

Really real.

He certainly is to the Vatican. I wonder if Charlie Sheen will be there in his role as Vatican assassin.

Exorcists meet in Poland, tackle vampires

Vampires, the devil's deceit and mental illness are among the hot topics for some 300 exorcists who flocked to Poland this week from as far away as Africa and India for a week-long congress.

Held at Poland's Roman Catholic Jasna Gora monastery, home to the venerated Black Madonna icon, this year's congress "examines the current fashion for vampirism in Europe and the world-over, schizophrenia and other mental disorders as well as the devil's deceit during exorcism," according to the monastery's radio station.

Also attending are "priests and lay people who work with exorcists or who are themselves practitioners in cases which do not involve possession but rather other forms of harassment by evil spirits," Polish exorcist, Father Andrzej Grefkowicz was quoted as saying.

http://news.yahoo.com/exorcists-meet-po ... 22317.html

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

I sit corrected. My apologies comrade.

Please, Tom...no need to apologise. We're all friends here.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Bram Stoker was on to something.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

I feel awkward, in that, I may may have left you all with the wrong idea about my stance on vampires.

I am most certainly in the "anti" vampire camp. Please, make no mistake.

[Felix]

I am most certainly in the "anti" vampire camp.

ditto....

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Thank you, Felix. I thought I was the lone dissenter on this.

[Mikey]

What do you have against vampires?

[Felix]

What do you have against vampires?

mostly because there are tons of shitty books and movies generated about them...



any self respecting vampire today should probably drive a stake through their own heart