Moderator: Jesus H Christ
Marx was right. Give the capitalists enough rope and they'll hang themselves.mvscal wrote:Go ahead, flip a coin and cast your vote. It doesn't make a bit of difference. The House is the only thing standing between us and complete capitulation to socialism and the effective end of representative government in the United States.
King Crimson wrote:anytime you have a smoke tunnel and it's not Judas Priest in the mid 80's....watch out.
mvscal wrote:France totally kicks ass.
Did Dan Vogel gnaw down your ballsack a little too close this morning, pussy? Holy cats, take it EASY.The House is the only thing standing between us and complete capitulation to socialism and the effective end of representative government in the United States.
King Crimson wrote:anytime you have a smoke tunnel and it's not Judas Priest in the mid 80's....watch out.
mvscal wrote:France totally kicks ass.
How many times have you rolled that way, and what's your body count?mvscal wrote:No, the way we roll here is to put bootlickers and traitors in the ground.PSUFAN wrote:Traitors, eh? Just leave the country if you don't like how we roll here. I don't think anyone is stopping you!
Remind me which failing bank the piper is CEO of, again?mvscal wrote:
It's time to pay the piper.
Don't take mvscal so seriously. It's all in his imagination.Smackie Chan wrote:How many times have you rolled that way, and what's your body count?mvscal wrote:No, the way we roll here is to put bootlickers and traitors in the ground.PSUFAN wrote:Traitors, eh? Just leave the country if you don't like how we roll here. I don't think anyone is stopping you!
Don't worry. John McCain will "veto every single earmark that comes across his desk when he's president"mvscal wrote:
No, they used a clever little trick. They took a House bill, H.R. 1424 (Paul Wellstone Mental Health and Addiction Equity Act of 2007 ), completely gutted it and grafted the bailout package and a couple hundred billion in additional pork to it, called them amendments and cheerfully voted for it while pissing in your face.
Had enough?
I guess voting against them wasn't an option?JayDuck wrote:Don't worry. John McCain will "veto every single earmark that comes across his desk when he's president"mvscal wrote:
No, they used a clever little trick. They took a House bill, H.R. 1424 (Paul Wellstone Mental Health and Addiction Equity Act of 2007 ), completely gutted it and grafted the bailout package and a couple hundred billion in additional pork to it, called them amendments and cheerfully voted for it while pissing in your face.
Had enough?
I'm sorry, I missed the part where Obama said he would veto any bill with earmarks.mvscal wrote:And you're laughing...why? Your shine boy voted for it too and so did his gaffe-o-matic VP selection.
Where's all this "change we can believe in"?
I figured they pulled something like that.mvscal wrote:No, they used a clever little trick. They took a House bill, H.R. 1424 (Paul Wellstone Mental Health and Addiction Equity Act of 2007 ), completely gutted it and grafted the bailout package and a couple hundred billion in additional pork to it, called them amendments and cheerfully voted for it while pissing in your face.
Biggest POS, ever. Dude spends virtually his entire time holding up spending bills in the Senate, then votes for this horseshit. Great job, Doc.Coburn (R-OK)
Lenin, actually:BSmack wrote: Marx was right. Give the capitalists enough rope and they'll hang themselves.
Felix wrote:you've become very bitter since you became jewish......
Kierland drop-kicking Wolftard wrote: Aren’t you part of the silent generation?
Why don’t you just STFU.
Kinda' dramatic that, but it's more like the House is what's standing in the way of companies closing their doors and laying off all their employees indefinitely. No jobs, no income taxes.mvscal wrote:The House is the only thing standing between us and complete capitulation to socialism and the effective end of representative government in the United States.
This should be news to no one.Tom wrote:Obama/McCain different sides of the same coin.
Apparently neither is the rest of the world who when polled would rather see Obama as President than Hillary, McCain or anyone else.poptart wrote: Americans = Just not real bright
In the case of the bailout, the public is correct, bro. It's our elective representatives who are determing "what's best" instead of listening to their constituents, in both parties.poptart wrote:Americans = Just not real bright
"I, (name of Member), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."
But the responsible, intelligent decisions are often contrary to what the majority of their constituents want. If they make such decisions, they're accused of not being truly representative. If they go along with what those who elected them want, even if imprudent, they're accused of ruling by popularity polls. It can be a no-win situation, and since the goal, from a career standpoint, is re-election, they're more likely to go along with their sometimes idiotic constituents, or just line their pockets by abusing the public trust.mvscal wrote:Their job is to make intelligent, responsible decisions and not abuse the public trust.Tom In VA wrote:What is the job of the House of Reps ?
This was not one of those responsible, intelligent decisions. The changes made from failed plan A Bailout to passed Plan B only added pork to the bill to swing enough fence sitters. That is not responsible or intelligent.Smackie Chan wrote:But the responsible, intelligent decisions are often contrary to what the majority of their constituents want.mvscal wrote:Their job is to make intelligent, responsible decisions and not abuse the public trust.Tom In VA wrote:What is the job of the House of Reps ?
That's part of this sham but I'm sure plenty of Members in so called "safe" Districts were looking at being on the House Underwater Basket Weaving Committee if they dare challenge Cunt Pelosi, Barney the Faggot and the rest of the Socialist Maggots. It's Washington DC at it's best. This is the most heinous POS ever crafted by the Bush administration and Congress just rammed it up our ass. Like mvscal said..enjoy this long recession and if you think for a minute it's gonna free up credit or save your retirement you are a fucking Tool. The best part is yet to come, the bar has now been set and horribly managed States like Kalifornia that have been run to the ground by a lower class of Government Moron are in DC with their hand out as well...Plan B only added pork to the bill to swing enough fence sitters.
Shut the fuck up, you panty sniffing cunt. No one gives a fuck what you think.Y2K wrote:That's part of this sham but I'm sure plenty of Members in so called "safe" Districts were looking at being on the House Underwater Basket Weaving Committee if they dare challenge Cunt Pelosi, Barney the Faggot and the rest of the Socialist Maggots. It's Washington DC at it's best. This is the most heinous POS ever crafted by the Bush administration and Congress just rammed it up our ass. Like mvscal said..enjoy this long recession and if you think for a minute it's gonna free up credit or save your retirement you are a fucking Tool. The best part is yet to come, the bar has now been set and horribly managed States like Kalifornia that have been run to the ground by a lower class of Government Moron are in DC with their hand out as well...Plan B only added pork to the bill to swing enough fence sitters.
No smilies here, I don't find any of this shit funny.
As for JDucktheTool's assumption that this will somehow "ease" the pain?....I did laugh.
Wall Street Millionares can't thank you enough.
Screw_Michigan wrote:Shut the fuck up, you panty sniffing cunt. No one gives a fuck what you think.Y2K wrote:That's part of this sham but I'm sure plenty of Members in so called "safe" Districts were looking at being on the House Underwater Basket Weaving Committee if they dare challenge Cunt Pelosi, Barney the Faggot and the rest of the Socialist Maggots. It's Washington DC at it's best. This is the most heinous POS ever crafted by the Bush administration and Congress just rammed it up our ass. Like mvscal said..enjoy this long recession and if you think for a minute it's gonna free up credit or save your retirement you are a fucking Tool. The best part is yet to come, the bar has now been set and horribly managed States like Kalifornia that have been run to the ground by a lower class of Government Moron are in DC with their hand out as well...Plan B only added pork to the bill to swing enough fence sitters.
No smilies here, I don't find any of this shit funny.
As for JDucktheTool's assumption that this will somehow "ease" the pain?....I did laugh.
Wall Street Millionares can't thank you enough.
hmmm!Screw_Michigan wrote: panty sniffing cunt.
RACK.Y2K wrote:That's part of this sham but I'm sure plenty of Members in so called "safe" Districts were looking at being on the House Underwater Basket Weaving Committee if they dare challenge Cunt Pelosi, Barney the Faggot and the rest of the Socialist Maggots. It's Washington DC at it's best. This is the most heinous POS ever crafted by the Bush administration and Congress just rammed it up our ass. Like mvscal said..enjoy this long recession and if you think for a minute it's gonna free up credit or save your retirement you are a fucking Tool. The best part is yet to come, the bar has now been set and horribly managed States like Kalifornia that have been run to the ground by a lower class of Government Moron are in DC with their hand out as well...Plan B only added pork to the bill to swing enough fence sitters.
No smilies here, I don't find any of this shit funny.
As I've patiently tried to explain, this is entirely inevitable. The predatory ponzi-scam nature of capitalism must of course find its final level of leveraged lies and so forth. DId you ever really think that a system which demands constant expansion of new markets can actually continue? For how long? I called it dead on, and despite radicals acting in my name--Lenin, Mao, Castro, etc.,--who tried, usually with disastrous results, to rush ahead with immediate socialism, my prediction has come true. Deal with it.mvscal wrote: It doesn't make a bit of difference. The House is the only thing standing between us and complete capitulation to socialism and the effective end of corporate government in the United States.
LTS TRN 2 wrote:As I've patiently tried to explain, this is entirely inevitable. The predatory ponzi-scam nature of capitalism must of course find its final level of leveraged lies and so forth. DId you ever really think that a system which demands constant expansion of new markets can actually continue? For how long? I called it dead on, and despite radicals acting in my name--Lenin, Mao, Castro, etc.,--who tried, usually with disastrous results, to rush ahead with immediate socialism, my prediction has come true. Deal with it.mvscal wrote: It doesn't make a bit of difference. The House is the only thing standing between us and complete capitulation to socialism and the effective end of corporate government in the United States.
Jerk, you really don't get it. It wasn't quasi-socialists who assigned "AAA" staus to the junk-level sub-prime loan bundled bonds, or invented hedge funds, and "ghost futures" being ricocheted off of secret Cayman accounts, and "derivitives" that a physicist couldn't explain, or deregulation scams like those of Keating, Enron, Boesky, Milken, and a thousand other clever kleptocrats. To suggest that capitalism requires morality is a sure sign that you're going to flunk out of any business school or MBA program. Sure, a company can grow and make money with a wholesome and socially responsible business model...but only in the relatively short term.Jerkovich wrote:LTS TRN 2 wrote:As I've patiently tried to explain, this is entirely inevitable. The predatory ponzi-scam nature of capitalism must of course find its final level of leveraged lies and so forth. DId you ever really think that a system which demands constant expansion of new markets can actually continue? For how long? I called it dead on, and despite radicals acting in my name--Lenin, Mao, Castro, etc.,--who tried, usually with disastrous results, to rush ahead with immediate socialism, my prediction has come true. Deal with it.mvscal wrote: It doesn't make a bit of difference. The House is the only thing standing between us and complete capitulation to socialism and the effective end of corporate government in the United States.
Oh, you're a fucking genius. Capitalism requires some form of morality were socialism requires none.
FUCK ME! HARDER!! HARDER!!
Jerkovich wrote: Oh, you're a fucking genius. Capitalism requires some form of morality were socialism requires none. The vote for the 'bail out' is proof of that notion. The problem with this issue is that the socialist cunts that created this mess are not in prison for fraud, embezzlement, taking bribes, and violating the public trust and oath of office.
FUCK YOU!
King Crimson wrote:anytime you have a smoke tunnel and it's not Judas Priest in the mid 80's....watch out.
mvscal wrote:France totally kicks ass.
The Soviet Union, People's republic of China, The DPRK, etc.Felix wrote: how's about you provide me with an example of a successful socialistic experiment
