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DrDetroit wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:
BSmack wrote:They also don't understand that when the price of gas went skyrocketing in 2001, they should have been changing their strategy to account for the changes in the car buying marketplace.
There's someone who doesn't understand, but it's not the car manufacturers, it's you.

An SUV is more profitable to sell than an econobox. An SUV is more profitable to the oil industry. Yet, the price of gas is skyrocketing. So, how do we resolve this? Why, we call up our buddy in the White House, and have him give everyone who buys a SUV a tax break. Easy solution. Steal from the poor, give to the rich....because goodness knows, the oil companies need those indirect tax dollars to turn a profit.

It's the American Way.
How is a tax break considered stealing??

I can only assume then that you also consider the child income tax credit as thievery??
I don't know about Dins, but I do. Since when should people be given a break for breeding?
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Seperate issue, but....

Why yes -- giving tax breaks for having children IS "reverse Robin Hood" econimics. You "conservatives" bitch about paying taxes for welfare children, since the parents couldn't afford to have the child in the first place, obviously. Yet, you expect childless people to pay more tax, even though they don't use schools, and being a smaller family unit, use less public services. The people who cost the community/country the least, are expected to pay the most. You're actually trying to charge ME money for YOUR child.

Live by YOUR OWN rules -- if you can't afford the child, DON'T HAVE IT! Don't expect ME to pick up the tab for your kid, you socialist bastards. Straight-up socialism.

Oh, wait....it's different when it comes to tax subsidies for your kids.....I forgot.
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mvscal wrote: They are being given a break for being "on the bottom rung", dumbshit.
So, we charge a tax on childless people to create an incentive for the "bottom rung" to procreate. Brilliant attempt to get over on Darwin. Won't work.
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mvscal wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:Oh, wait....it's different when it comes to tax subsidies for your kids.....I forgot.
Not my kids. The EIC is means tested.
You still take a deduction for you kids. Right?
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BSmack wrote:
DrDetroit wrote:
Dinsdale wrote: There's someone who doesn't understand, but it's not the car manufacturers, it's you.

An SUV is more profitable to sell than an econobox. An SUV is more profitable to the oil industry. Yet, the price of gas is skyrocketing. So, how do we resolve this? Why, we call up our buddy in the White House, and have him give everyone who buys a SUV a tax break. Easy solution. Steal from the poor, give to the rich....because goodness knows, the oil companies need those indirect tax dollars to turn a profit.

It's the American Way.
How is a tax break considered stealing??

I can only assume then that you also consider the child income tax credit as thievery??
I don't know about Dins, but I do. Since when should people be given a break for breeding?
Stealing?? Bueller?
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Dinsdale wrote:Seperate issue, but....

Why yes -- giving tax breaks for having children IS "reverse Robin Hood" econimics. You "conservatives" bitch about paying taxes for welfare children, since the parents couldn't afford to have the child in the first place, obviously. Yet, you expect childless people to pay more tax, even though they don't use schools, and being a smaller family unit, use less public services.
Wrong. Property taxes are not based on size of household. Police and Fire staffing are not contingent on the size of the household. Many states rely on sales taxes as the primary revenue source for school funding. Size of household doesn't matter when it comes to staffing ordinance or code enforcement functions, either.
The people who cost the community/country the least, are expected to pay the most. You're actually trying to charge ME money for YOUR child.
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I split this into it's own thread.
Seperate issue, but....

Why yes -- giving tax breaks for having children IS "reverse Robin Hood" econimics. You "conservatives" bitch about paying taxes for welfare children, since the parents couldn't afford to have the child in the first place, obviously. Yet, you expect childless people to pay more tax, even though they don't use schools...
My favorite b.s. explanation for this is when they say that non-parents still benefit from paying taxes towards public schools because they're less likely to be robbed by an educated child.
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BSmack wrote:
mvscal wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:Oh, wait....it's different when it comes to tax subsidies for your kids.....I forgot.
Not my kids. The EIC is means tested.
You still take a deduction for you kids. Right?
Is this a "conservative" idea?
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DrDetroit wrote:
BSmack wrote:
mvscal wrote: Not my kids. The EIC is means tested.
You still take a deduction for you kids. Right?
Is this a "conservative" idea?
No you retard. I was just asking him a question. Christ, not EVERYTHING is a matter of "liberal v conservative". :roll:
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BSmack wrote:
DrDetroit wrote:
BSmack wrote: You still take a deduction for you kids. Right?
Is this a "conservative" idea?
No you retard. I was just asking him a question. Christ, not EVERYTHING is a matter of "liberal v conservative". :roll:
Um, it was more directed at Dins than you, though I suspected you'd have input.
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