Seminoles are a stepping stone job

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:25 am

Since when is ass To mouth a step up from Free Shoes Univ? The last time aTm won a MNC was in the 50s and they haven't played for shit since.

Fuck aTm

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:27 am

Sounds like they're all over Willie Taggart... and WT ain't interested.

L45B · Post by **L45B** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:33 am

Dinsdale wrote:Sounds like they're all over Willie Taggart... and WT ain't interested.

It doesn't take reading a book by Ayn Rand to know that the Taggarts are all about :bode:

and F$U ain't got any.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:02 am

Fisher overplayed his hand and FSU called his bluff.

Pretty hard to turn down 75 million though.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:04 am

L45B wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:Sounds like they're all over Willie Taggart... and WT ain't interested.
It doesn't take reading a book by Ayn Rand to know that the Taggarts are all about :bode: and F$U ain't got any.

And he's got a huge new contract sitting on his desk.

But if he goes, Leavitt gets the job (thanks for that hire, Willie). But I don't think promising the recruits the moon and the stars then bailing would bode well for him in his new endeavor.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:42 am

Jimbo Fisher's in such a hurry to get out of FSU that he tossed his Christmas tree on the curb.

Bucmonkey · Post by **Bucmonkey** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:27 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:Since when is ass To mouth a step up from Free Shoes Univ? The last time aTm won a MNC was in the 50s and they haven't played for shit since.

Fuck aTm

talks

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:23 pm

Money talks, but I think he also wanted a change of scenery. One down year and that trash fan base turned on him. Also probly wants to get a little further from the ex-wife who apparently was banging members of the tennis team.

edit: pic of skank ex-wife

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:41 pm

wife banging the tennis team, richest contract ever.....hmm.

however, ATM is a strange place. the SEC-Big XII, Texas-Texas ATM dynamics are super weird these days in the GSoT. i don't know about Aggie. history says they just signed on for a colossal lampoon. Texas Aggie fans are a strange crew.

however, i thought Aggy would take "the next step" when they hired Dennis Francione and Mack still couldn't "win the big game". they didn't.

FWIW, to someone above.....ATM won the NC in 1939. not the fifties. pre-facemask, pre WW2. also, since joining the SEC they are claiming two "new" NC's like 1919 and 1927 or something.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:03 pm

Aggie fired a coach who won 8 games a year. Prior to that they had all kinds of mediocrity going back to Slocumn who was fired for winning 9 games a year. If Fisher can’t get it done for Aggie, can anyone?

Let’s just ponder what might happen if Fisher gets 7-8 wins each of the next three years? Do they fire him and pay him for an additional 7? Do they stay with him and hope and pray they can mix in a 10 win season every decade? Interesting times.

Bucmonkey · Post by **Bucmonkey** » Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:46 pm

Left Seater wrote:Aggie fired a coach who won 8 games a year. Prior to that they had all kinds of mediocrity going back to Slocumn who was fired for winning 9 games a year. If Fisher can’t get it done for Aggie, can anyone?

Let’s just ponder what might happen if Fisher gets 7-8 wins each of the next three years? Do they fire him and pay him for an additional 7? Do they stay with him and hope and pray they can mix in a 10 win season every decade? Interesting times.

Welcome to America?

MuchoBulls · Post by **MuchoBulls** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:45 pm

I'd be stunned if Coach Taggart didn't take the FSU job. He would run circles around Miami and UF in recruiting. The biggest question would be if he brought Leavitt and Cristobal along with him.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:20 pm

MuchoBulls wrote:The biggest question would be if he brought Leavitt and Cristobal along with him.

It's well known that Leavitt wants a HC job. And if WT leaves Oregon, he's got one.

MuchoBulls · Post by **MuchoBulls** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:00 pm

Would love to see him Coach again. I still believe he comes with Taggart.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:21 pm

I seriously doubt he'd turn down a HC job out of some sort of 1-year loyalty to Taggart. That makes no sense. It's also possible that Oregon might be thinking bigger than even Leavitt -- they're not afraid of spending money. Bear in mind, if WT leaves, he's on the hook for his $1.5 mil USF buyout.

BTW -- stupid and likely made-up rumors say that FSU offered him less money than he's making now.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:22 pm

Taggert officially to FSU.

Interesting hire, to say the least.

MuchoBulls · Post by **MuchoBulls** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:36 pm

Dinsdale wrote:I seriously doubt he'd turn down a HC job out of some sort of 1-year loyalty to Taggart. That makes no sense. It's also possible that Oregon might be thinking bigger than even Leavitt -- they're not afraid of spending money. Bear in mind, if WT leaves, he's on the hook for his $1.5 mil USF buyout.

BTW -- stupid and likely made-up rumors say that FSU offered him less money than he's making now.

I thought I read somewhere that he was holding out for $5 million a year.

Don’t underestimate the pull of coming home for Leavitt either. FSU will absolutely clean it up in recruiting with Taggart, Leavitt, and potentially Cristobal.

MuchoBulls · Post by **MuchoBulls** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:37 pm

Killian wrote:Taggert officially to FSU.

Interesting hire, to say the least.

A great hire.

As I said in thread last year when he left, I wished he stayed here for the 2017 season.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:39 pm

Tallahassee is closer to Tampa than Eugene, I suppose.

Oregon AD Mullens needs to act fairly quickly. The names that have been kicked around are Leavitt (odds on favorite), Cristobal, Justin Wilcox (would be my choice, huge U of O legacy), Sumlin, and Boise State's Harsin.

Whoever it is, they need to get in touch with the commits pronto.

MuchoBulls · Post by **MuchoBulls** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:51 pm

Leavitt is coming with Taggart

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:16 pm

Dinsdale wrote:Tallahassee is closer to Tampa than Eugene, I suppose.

Oregon AD Mullens needs to act fairly quickly. The names that have been kicked around are Leavitt (odds on favorite), Cristobal, Justin Wilcox (would be my choice, huge U of O legacy), Sumlin, and Boise State's Harsin.

Whoever it is, they need to get in touch with the commits pronto.

You forgot to include the name Brian Kelly.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:33 pm

Leavitt probably could have had the HC job, for about 4 times the $ he's going to get. But it's no secret he wants to be a HC, so it's doubtful he'll be at FSU long.

As commented locally -- WT has been a turncoat multiple times in the last few years, so you'd think he wouldn't suck at it by now. But there's a trail of pissed off recruits in his wake.

Let the hunt begin. Mullens won't be messing around, and Oregon has more money to spend than most other programs. Hoping for a big name hire (which could end up being the interim coach, Mario Cristobal).

MuchoBulls · Post by **MuchoBulls** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:32 pm

Dinsdale wrote:As commented locally -- WT has been a turncoat multiple times in the last few years, so you'd think he wouldn't suck at it by now. But there's a trail of pissed off recruits in his wake.

I'm sure the local commentators didn't have any issue with the recruits he poached last year.

I'd hardly call him a turncoat. He left WKU after rebuilding them and came to USF, which was still in the BCS at that time. Once we lost that tag I knew he would leave for greener pastures if he was successful here. He rebuilt us and his stock rose. As I had said in the thread last year, I figured he would stick around here for 1 more year (Mack likely would have stayed as well) and wait for a job closer to his comfort zone, especially since there were rumors that far back that the UF job was potentially going to open this year.

Coach Taggart won't say it, but FSU is his dream job and there is no way anyone could have foreseen it opening this year, so he shouldn't be faulted for taking it. He's also said that he wants to be the first African American head coach to win a National Championship. In my opinion, his chances are better of accomplishing that at FSU.

L45B · Post by **L45B** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:10 pm

Chip Kelly to Oregon.

Re-stack the dominoes.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:09 pm

Stepping stone to conference championships and MNC championship games?

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:37 pm

MuchoBulls wrote:Leavitt is coming with Taggart

That's quite the reliable rumor... since apparently, he's forbidden by his contract from talking to any other school until after the bowl game.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:15 am

And BTW... good riddance.

Taggart told ESPN that what the players said he told them wasn't true.

Hmmm, who to believe -- the entire team (or those who have commented), or a guy who we've come to know is a known liar ("I haven't had any contact with FSU" - on Saturday, then it comes out they pitched him Thursday).

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:58 am

Dinsdale wrote:
MuchoBulls wrote:Leavitt is coming with Taggart
That's quite the reliable rumor... since apparently, he's forbidden by his contract from talking to any other school until after the bowl game.

That would be a stupid thing to add to a contract by the school. Too many ways a coach who wants out or wants to follow another coach can mess with recruits and half ass bowl prep.

If coaches want out the best thing to do is let them go ASAP.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:52 pm

Dinsdale wrote:And BTW... good riddance.

Taggart told ESPN that what the players said he told them wasn't true.

Hmmm, who to believe -- the entire team (or those who have commented), or a guy who we've come to know is a known liar ("I haven't had any contact with FSU" - on Saturday, then it comes out they pitched him Thursday).

You sound like a jilted lover. Need a tissue?

MuchoBulls · Post by **MuchoBulls** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:23 pm

Dinsdale wrote:And BTW... good riddance.

Taggart told ESPN that what the players said he told them wasn't true.

Hmmm, who to believe -- the entire team (or those who have commented), or a guy who we've come to know is a known liar ("I haven't had any contact with FSU" - on Saturday, then it comes out they pitched him Thursday).

Funny how the same thing didn't seem to matter to you 1 year ago today.

MuchoBulls · Post by **MuchoBulls** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:25 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
MuchoBulls wrote:Leavitt is coming with Taggart
That's quite the reliable rumor... since apparently, he's forbidden by his contract from talking to any other school until after the bowl game.

Forbidden until 12/16 I believe.

Thankfully my 21 years working in the Athletic Department at USF have paid off with longstanding relationships with people who used to work here.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:36 pm

MuchoBulls wrote:
Funny how the same thing didn't seem to matter to you 1 year ago today.

I didn't realize he was a compulsive liar a year ago.

And Cristobal it is.

Fucker even had no problem with a large buyout clause, since he's said he isn't going anywhere (time will tell).

Leavitt may well go, since he's likely butthurt about not getting the HC job. Then again, he's also one of the highest paid DCs in the country, so it will be hard for him to improve his financial situation much (and they may even offer him a raise, since Mario came pretty cheap).

A few decommits, but there were more commits than scholarships available anyway. Cristobal has been named recruiter of the year before, so that should sort itself out.

Besides, The Rock approves of the hire, so how can we go wrong?

Moby Dick · Post by **Moby Dick** » Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:15 pm

The aTm fanbase are the most delusional in BTCFB.

Seriously..what a shit show.

I love watchign that school shit the bed.

'sup Tennessee?

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:59 pm

Willie Taggart won 7 games at Oregon with a marquee win of Nebraska that fired Pac also ran Mike RIley.

Dinsdale was defending Mark Helfrich when i posted he was in over his head. 2 years ago.

basically, UO is a dumpster fire or 8 win also-ran factory with a lot of money.

i think Lefty's premise about the ATM hire is the same as mine......not anti capitalist or anti american just that ATM had proven time and time again that a coach can win 8-9 games at ATM with top 15 recruiting.....and get paid a lot less than Jimbo Fisher.

MuchoBulls · Post by **MuchoBulls** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:27 pm

Dinsdale wrote:I didn't realize he was a compulsive liar a year ago.

And Cristobal it is.

Fucker even had no problem with a large buyout clause, since he's said he isn't going anywhere (time will tell).

Leavitt may well go, since he's likely butthurt about not getting the HC job. Then again, he's also one of the highest paid DCs in the country, so it will be hard for him to improve his financial situation much (and they may even offer him a raise, since Mario came pretty cheap).

A few decommits, but there were more commits than scholarships available anyway. Cristobal has been named recruiter of the year before, so that should sort itself out.

Besides, The Rock approves of the hire, so how can we go wrong?

A bit harsh on the compulsive liar comment. I don't think I have seen any coach who will tell the media/recruits that they are interviewing for other jobs before they accept them.

Leavitt is going and it has nothing to do about being "butt hurt" about not getting the HC position. His family is in FL and he'll recruit like crazy. Already seeing FSU dropping some of their current commits for better ones (2 Oregon commits I believe).

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:48 pm

King Crimson wrote:

basically, UO is a dumpster fire or 8 win also-ran factory with a lot of money.

I-A Winning Percentage (since BCS Era began - 19 years)

1 - Boise State - 0.82 - 202 - 43

2 - Ohio State - 0.80 - 186 - 46

3 - Oklahoma - 0.78 - 195 - 54

4 - Florida State - 0.73 - 174 - 63

5 - Oregon - 0.73 - 177 - 65

6 - Texas Christian - 0.73 - 174 - 64

7 - Louisiana State - 0.72 - 175 - 67

8 - Virginia Tech - 0.72 - 180 - 69

9 - Georgia - 0.72 - 187 - 72

10 - Wisconsin - 0.72 - 178 - 70

11 - Texas - 0.72 - 174 - 69

12 - Florida - 0.71 - 175 - 70

13 - Southern Cal - 0.71 - 164 - 67

14 - Alabama - 0.71 - 161 - 67

15 - Miami-Florida - 0.68 - 162 - 77

16 - Nebraska - 0.68 - 167 - 80

17 - Utah - 0.68 - 158 - 76

18 - Louisville - 0.67 - 160 - 79

19 - Clemson - 0.67 - 164 - 81

20 - Michigan - 0.67 - 159 - 80

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Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:09 pm

Hey, Wisconsin's in the top 10. With one more win than whOregon.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:49 am

As they should have. Don't KNOWINGLY play ineligible players, and it won't be a problem.

Sure, shit happens. But when the "upper management" knows it's happening, and says "fuck it," you earned it.

tOSU got odd very easy on that one. Bitching about it is petty.

MuchoBulls · Post by **MuchoBulls** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:55 pm

Props for retaining Coach Leavitt. Nice bump in pay for him as well. FSU can't match that.

Since he stayed I'm kind of surprised he wasn't named Head Coach.