Fags in Boy Scouts.

[kcdave]

I really don't care much one way of the other, but the whole fact that they will allow fag members
but not gay men or women as leaders oozes with hypocrisy.

[Screw_Michigan]

Discuss.

Are you going to apply now that they have allowed you and your ilk to join?

[R-Jack]

Discuss.

Are you going to apply now that they have allowed you and your ilk to join?

You're wrong. The Boy Scouts would never allow someone to use a camping tent as a uniform.

[Smackie Chan]

The Boy Scouts would never allow someone to use a camping tent as a uniform.

I dunno...

[Smackie Chan]

Smackie - can we assume that the picture shown is Screwy & his dad?

I wouldn't advise it. You know what happens when we assume...

[Screw_Michigan]

I wouldn't advise it. You know what happens when we assume...

Spray gets a little more gluttonous?

[R-Jack]

I thought gays only wanted to be able to tie one knot, not several.

[Smackie Chan]

I thought gays only wanted to be able to tie one knot, not several.

A balloon knot may be one of 'em now.

[Wolfman]

This marks the end of the BSA as I knew it. Of course there are queers everywhere, but that doesn't mean that it is hunky-dory to sexualize the scouts. I know most of you don't give a shit, but I do and that's that.

[smackaholic]

Being a scout leader myself, I really don't have a problem with boy scouts that identify themselves as gay. They're fukking kids. They likely don't really know what the fukk they want, sexually speaking.

I do have issues with gay leaders. The BSA have bent over backwards with rules to ensure that leaders are not bending scouts over forwards. Leaders can't sleep in the same tent. Leaders can not be alone with a scout. There must be two leaders (one to hold the little fukker down, I guess). Anyhoo, despite these safeguards, I would still be uncomfortable with my son being led by some dude who I know likes the cahk. And please fukking save me the bullshit about how gays aren't attracted to boys. First off, it is bullshit. Second, older scouts are pretty much men, physically speaking. So, even if the fag leader isn't a pedo, there is a decent chance he will still look at a sixteen year old scout and think, hmmmmm, nice.

Having a gay leader makes as much sense as having a straight male girl scout leader. If you have a 16 year daughter, (a smoking hot one) would you be comfortable having her go on a campout with me?

I sure the fukk wouldn't be comfortable.

It all just comes down to two things. First off, you just don't need the sexual tension that very well may be there, never mind anything actually happening. Secondly, it's a fukking private organization. People should be free to form associations with whom they want. I do believe there is another organization similar to BSA which welcomes gays. Good for them. I wonder if they have interior decoration merit badges?

One of the other leaders told me that our sponsor, a local congregational church, has informed us that we are out of there if the vote doesn't pass. I think we should just beat them to the punch and leave.

[R-Jack]

I'm still confused as to why it's necessary for anyone to advertise their sexual proclivities, whatever they may be.

It's important to know when a guy is sucking my dick. I don't want some faggot doing it.

Sin,
TheJon

[R-Jack]

Having a gay leader makes as much sense as having a straight male girl scout leader. If you have a 16 year daughter, (a smoking hot one) would you be comfortable having her go on a campout with me?

I sure the fukk wouldn't be comfortable.

ECCF sighting.

[Dinsdale]

I FUCK CHICKS, AND I'M PROUD OF IT!!!!!

Anyone ever announced that on their first day of a new job? Probably be your last day at said job.

Informed someone of that shortly after meeting them?

Every really figured it was anyone else's business what you do with your cock (or ass, or whatever you're into)?

I'm all for equality for everybody, but it seems the militant homos aren't after equality -- they're all about being the beneficiaries of a government-sponsored double-standard. And any time the government sponsors something, bad shit usually ensues.

So, a memo to homos (sup Screwey) -- ask the black folk how having the government come to their rescue has worked out for them. Probably just should have stuck it out and made it on their own merit, eh? Funny how we learn so little from history.

[Derron]

Having a gay leader makes as much sense as having a straight male girl scout leader. If you have a 16 year daughter, (a smoking hot one) would you be comfortable having her go on a campout with me?

News flash here cockaholic.....the chick does not have to be smoking hot to attract attention from the hetero male. She can be quite plain, and still have what it takes to make most males think with their dick head only, and some of the ones not so smoking hot were some of the best rides you could have back in the day. The guys that spent their time chasing the smoking hot ones scored less and had blue balls more than those who paid attention to more normal chicks.

Waiting for Todd to weight in here with the bondage and imprisonment take here too...

[Diego in Seattle]

This marks the end of the BSA as I knew it. Of course there are queers everywhere, but that doesn't mean that it is hunky-dory to sexualize the scouts.

So if an organization that only allowed people of one political persuasion to join suddenly allowed people of any party to join, you'd be saying that the organization politicized themselves?

Time to take your Tacrine, wolfie.

[mvscal]

Fags in Boy Scouts.

Yes, I believe that is their plan.

Yes, he was an Eagle Scout.

Is that where he learned to squat on cocks?

[Mikey]

I expect an flood of openly gay fifth graders to start signing up.

[Carson]

This guy will make a great scoutmaster:

[Rooster]

Smackaholic alluded to one of the darker and less known facets of homosexuality: pedophilia. Studies have shown that older homosexuals prey on younger sexually confused boys in the process of "initiating" them into the gay lifestyle. In so doing, these older men often target boys in their young teens or earlier. The process for doing this is much like that dude we all know from work or the neighborhood who has a radar for weak, emotionally compliant women. These individuals seem to sense in their marks a particular vulnerability or neediness, be that psychological, emotional, or both, and then exploit that for their own personal gratification.

[kcdave]

sexually confused boys

= queers

[Rooster]

Maybe, maybe not, kcdave. The age of these boys leads me to suspect that that is precisely why these apex predators seek them out. They intuitively understand that for any number of reasons these boys are looking for guidance and a role model, be that because their family situation at home is wretched or something else entirely. I wouldn't discount that the children might be predisposed to a homosexual orientation, but I suspect that it is just the vulnerability imposed on them due to their age and its' lack of attendant awareness that makes them so sexually attractive to older gay men.

However, the intentional predation of young boys is wrong regardless anyone's opinion on the morality of sexual orientation-- unless, of course, you are DiS or a member of NAMBLA. A .22 round to the back of the head and a subsequent fall into a shallow trench out back is too good for these pukes.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Maybe, maybe not, kcdave. The age of these boys leads me to suspect that that is precisely why these apex predators seek them out. They intuitively understand that for any number of reasons these boys are looking for guidance and a role model, be that because their family situation at home is wretched or something else entirely. I wouldn't discount that the children might be predisposed to a homosexual orientation, but I suspect that it is just the vulnerability imposed on them due to their age and its' lack of attendant awareness that makes them so sexually attractive to older gay men.

You sure know a lot about the psyche of gay pedophiles.

[Mikey]

Maybe, maybe not, kcdave. The age of these boys leads me to suspect that that is precisely why these apex predators seek them out. They intuitively understand that for any number of reasons these boys are looking for guidance and a role model, be that because their family situation at home is wretched or something else entirely. I wouldn't discount that the children might be predisposed to a homosexual orientation, but I suspect that it is just the vulnerability imposed on them due to their age and its' lack of attendant awareness that makes them so sexually attractive to older gay men.

You sure know a lot about the psyche of gay pedophiles.

Yep. Sounds like a case of self-loathing to me.

[Rooster]

Or perhaps I am philosophically and ethically opposed to the moral decay I see in today's cultural acceptance of open homosexual relationships. And perhaps I wish to be prepared to give a strong argument against this decay in the face of what is becoming acceptable behavior despite the obvious ramifications of a "tolerant" society. It wasn't that long ago homosexuality was considered a mental disease. Contrast that with a growing acceptance and mainstreaming of such aberrant behavior like transgendering oneself and you need to question what is at the heart of the sickness in our society.

But I see you workin' here, Mgo and Mikey. I'd appreciate it if you two'd stop projecting your gay fantasies on me.

[Diego in Seattle]

It wasn't that long ago homosexuality was considered a mental disease.

It also wasn't long ago that mixed-race marriage was considered to be morally wrong.

Sorry that progress has passed you by.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Or perhaps I am philosophically and ethically opposed to blah blah blah blah...

Oh, okay. Because it seemed to me you were trying to play head doctor on the internet and pass your assumptions off as facts. Hey, I can play that game. Due to your outward abhorrence of homosexuals and your chosen career path of spending all of your time exclusively with other dudes, I suspect you are a deeply closeted faggot. And hey, that's cool.

[R-Jack]

Probably not as closeted as you think.

His did choose the username of a cock after all.

[Mace]

Studies have shown that older homosexuals prey on younger sexually confused boys in the process of "initiating" them into the gay lifestyle. In so doing, these older men often target boys in their young teens or earlier. The process for doing this is much like that dude we all know from work or the neighborhood who has a radar for weak, emotionally compliant women. These individuals seem to sense in their marks a particular vulnerability or neediness, be that psychological, emotional, or both, and then exploit that for their own personal gratification.

Got a link to these bogus "studies" or did you just hear it on FoxNews?

[mvscal]

Got a link to these bogus "studies" or did you just hear it on FoxNews?

You really are an ignorant dipshit.

Boy Scouts’ confidential files show pattern of ‘grooming behavior’ in molesters

LOS ANGELES — The thousands of men expelled from the Irving-based Boy Scouts of America on suspicion of molesting children came from all walks of life — teachers and plumbers, doctors and bus drivers, politicians and police officers. They ranged in age from teenagers to senior citizens and came from troops in every state.

As the Scouts have long said, the files suggest no single profile of a predator. But a close look at nearly 1,900 confidential files opened between 1970 and 1991 revealed a pattern: Many suspected molesters engaged in what psychologists today call “grooming behavior,” a gradual seduction in which predators lavish children with attention, favors and gifts.

In hundreds of cases, Scout leaders allowed the boys to drive cars, drink alcohol or look at pornography. They gradually tested physical boundaries during skinny dipping, group showers, sleepovers and one-on-one activities.

“He combs the boys’ hair and buys them clothes and dinner,” one mother wrote to a Scouting official in 1985 about a Scoutmaster in Orange, Calif. “He takes them to church, motorcycle riding, skiing, flying. … Everybody thought he was a real nice guy. Now we know why he did these things.”

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Many of the men who were ultimately expelled from the Scouts were highly decorated troop leaders and respected members of the community. Dozens had been honored with Scouting awards such as the Silver Beaver, a distinguished service award for adult troop leaders.

The grooming process and rule-breaking often ensured boys’ silence, allowing some men to serially abuse boys over a span of years before being caught. In more than 50 cases, Scout leaders were alleged to have abused 10 or more boys by the time they were expelled.

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In many of the files, the Times found, patterns emerged among the alleged victims as well. The boys were often from troubled backgrounds or seeking approval from a father figure. {Sandusky's MO}

During an interview with prosecutors in 1990, a 17-year-old former Scout from a Valley Forge, Pa., troop haltingly described how he came to be involved in a more than yearlong relationship with 45-year-old Douglas J. Verney, a former policeman he met through Scouting and had come to trust “very much.”

“I had a lot of family problems . And so I was kind of like emotionally ripped up and that kind of thing. I think I was looking for somebody who was there to be that comfort, you know, that parent, parental figure.”

The boy went on to describe how, over a period of months, Verney had offered him a job and began counseling him and hugging him. One day around the youth’s 16th birthday, as he was talking and crying, Verney unzipped the boy’s pants.


http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local-ne ... esters.ece

[mvscal]

Homosexual pedophiles sexually molest children at a far greater rate compared to the percentage of homosexuals in the general population. A study in the Journal of Sex Research found, as we have noted above, that "approximately one-third of [child sex offenders] had victimized boys and two-thirds had victimized girls." The authors then make a prescient observation: "Interestingly, this ratio differs substantially from the ratio of gynephiles (men who erotically prefer physically mature females) to androphiles (men who erotically prefer physically mature males), which is at least 20 to 1."[17]

In other words, although heterosexuals outnumber homosexuals by a ratio of at least 20 to 1, homosexual pedophiles commit about one-third of the total number of child sex offenses.

Similarly, the Archives of Sexual Behavior also noted that homosexual pedophiles are significantly overrepresented in child sex offence cases:

The best epidemiological evidence indicates that only 2 to 4 percent of men attracted to adults prefer men (ACSF Investigators, 1992; Billy et al.,1993; Fay et al.,1989; Johnson et al.,1992); in contrast, around 25 to 40 percent of men attracted to children prefer boys (Blanchard et al.,1999; Gebhard et al.,1965; Mohr et al.,1964). Thus, the rate of homosexual attraction is 6 to 20 times higher among pedophiles."[18]

The stark imbalance between homosexual and heterosexual child molestationswas confirmed in the Archives of Sexual Behavior study itself, which divided 260 pedophile participants into three groups: "152 heterosexual pedophiles (men with offenses or self-reported attractions involving girls only), 43 bisexual pedophiles (boys and girls), and 65 homosexual pedophiles (boys only)."[19] In other words, 25 percent of the offenders were homosexual pedophiles--or 41 percent if those who molest girls as well as boys are included.

Other studies report an unusually high percentage of child molestations by homosexual pedophiles:

A study on pedophilia in the Psychiatric Journal of the University of Ottawa reported: "According to the literature, findings of a two-to-one ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles have been documented."[20]

The Journal of Sex Research reports a study that included "199 offenders against female children and 96 offenders against male children. . . . This would indicate a proportional prevalence of 32 percent of homosexual offenders against children."[21]

A study of male child sex offenders in Child Abuse and Neglect found that fourteen percent targeted only males, and a further 28 percent chose males as well as females as victims, thus indicating that 42 percent of male pedophiles engaged in homosexual molestation.[22]

http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS02E3

[Mace]

Pedophiles routinely "groom" their victims in the manner described but their behavior has far less to do with being homosexual and far more to do with demonstrating power and control over their victims. It's more similar to prison rape and has very little to do with being homosexual.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Homosexual pedophiles sexually molest children at a far greater rate compared to the percentage of homosexuals in the general population.

They really needed a study to figure that out?

[War Wagon]

It wasn't that long ago homosexuality was considered a mental disease.

It also wasn't long ago that mixed-race marriage was considered to be morally wrong.

Sorry that progress has passed you by.

Homosexuality and societal acceptance thereof is progress in your twisted, warped mind?

I suppose molesting children is as well and you can't wait for the day when you can come out of the closet, proudly boasting of your conquests.

As well, comparing mixed race hetero marriage to homosexuality is ridiculous but just what I've come to expect from you.

Die in a bridge collapse.

[Truman]

Pedophiles routinely "groom" their victims in the manner described but their behavior has far less to do with being homosexual and far more to do with demonstrating power and control over their victims. It's more similar to prison rape and has very little to do with being homosexual.

Be that the case, Mace, and given the population disparity between actual homosexuals and "normal" men, you'd find a far more prevalence of pedophilia in the Girl Scouts. Funny, that doesn't seem to be the case. And yes, dudes can lead chick troops.

Instead, these predators seem drawn to leading boys. The BSA made a sage decision denying gay scout leaders. Per mvscal's post, the numbers don't lie.

[Toddowen]

Waiting for Todd to weight in here with the bondage and imprisonment take here too...

I did burst out in sadistic laughter at this one-

The BSA have bent over backwards with rules to ensure that leaders are not bending scouts over forwards. Leaders can't sleep in the same tent. Leaders can not be alone with a scout. There must be two leaders (one to hold the little fukker down, I guess).

RACK smackaholic's entire take on the BSA admitting gays. That was outstanding.

[Mace]

Pedophiles routinely "groom" their victims in the manner described but their behavior has far less to do with being homosexual and far more to do with demonstrating power and control over their victims. It's more similar to prison rape and has very little to do with being homosexual.

Be that the case, Mace, and given the population disparity between actual homosexuals and "normal" men, you'd find a far more prevalence of pedophilia in the Girl Scouts. Funny, that doesn't seem to be the case. And yes, dudes can lead chick troops.

Instead, these predators seem drawn to leading boys. The BSA made a sage decision denying gay scout leaders. Per mvscal's post, the numbers don't lie.

There are far fewer women predators than male and pedophiles preying on young boys doesn't make them homosexuals, it makes them pedophiles. There is a very distinct difference.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Be that the case, Mace, and given the population disparity between actual homosexuals and "normal" men, you'd find a far more prevalence of pedophilia in the Girl Scouts. Funny, that doesn't seem to be the case. And yes, dudes can lead chick troops.

Instead, these predators seem drawn to leading boys. The BSA made a sage decision denying gay scout leaders. Per mvscal's post, the numbers don't lie.

It's a good thing the Catholic church doesn't allow openly gay priests. They might have a serious problem with boy rape if they did.

[War Wagon]

There are far fewer women predators than male and pedophiles preying on young boys doesn't make them homosexuals, it makes them pedophiles. There is a very distinct difference.

It makes them homosexual pedophiles, the "difference", and it's not distinct, being they are even more sick and revolting.

[Truman]

There are far fewer women predators than male and pedophiles preying on young boys doesn't make them homosexuals, it makes them pedophiles. There is a very distinct difference.

That wasn't my take. Let's try this again, Mace. I could give a rat's ass if women lead girl scout troops or our country. My point is, men with pedophilic tendencies have just as much opportunity to lead Girl Scout troops as they do boys. Seemingly, all the reported incidence of pedophelia seems to reside with the boys.

Now, you can continue to dismiss a man's dominance over a boy as nothing more than some kind of fucked-up power trip - and I don't necessarily disagree - but any buggery between two males, scout or not, minor or not, constitutes homosexuality. And given the percentages, those folks don't need to be leading scouts.

[Mace]

There are far fewer women predators than male and pedophiles preying on young boys doesn't make them homosexuals, it makes them pedophiles. There is a very distinct difference.

It makes them homosexual pedophiles, the "difference", and it's not distinct, being they are even more sick and revolting.

So, dumbass, when a man rapes another man in prison, does that make him a homosexual? The correct answer is no, it doesn't necessarily mean that he's homosexual. More often than not, it means he's demonstrating power and control over the victim.