Could the Chargers Possibly Suck Any Worse?

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:37 am

Maybe, but not much.

Time to give Whitehurst a look.

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:10 am

Mikey wrote:Maybe, but not much.

Time to give Whitehurst a look.

...you can't think Whitehurst would fair any better under that kind of pressure..right?

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:16 am

I thought Tony Romo played for the Cowboys?

Rivers was horrible, as was most of the offense and defense.

trev · Post by **trev** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:23 am

That loss is on Norv. Save your Philip Rivers threw 6 hundred intereception emails, I'm not reading them.

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:55 am

more tomorrow, I have a headache.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:57 am

Papa Willie wrote:I've never understood why Whitehurst hasn't been given more of a chance with either SD or Seattle.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that is due to the fact that he sucks. You think Pete Carroll wasn't willing to give him a shot? Carroll will play whoever he thinks is the best. He doesn't give a fuck about contracts or draft status. Whitehurst is a dehydrated turd. He's a 3rd string journeyman at best and will probably be out of the league within three or four years.

He was great in college - better than Rivers at the time they were both in, too.

Smoking the good shit, ay?

The Chargers just aren't very good. They've got a rookie at left tackle. Jammer is too slow to play CB and should probably think about moving to safety. He was horrific. I'm not surprised in the least and whatever it takes to get rid of Norviega is fine with me. The Bolts will whip up on shit teams and collapse like a cheap lawn chair against decent teams.

dingus · Post by **dingus** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:06 am

Whitehurst insured Tardvarius Jackson started for Seattle. If you suck worse than that guy, well you really suck. Given his pedigree and college success, i thought Whitehurst would be better, but he flat sucked when he got chances to play in Seattle. How Norv Turner keeps his job is a mystery to me.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:13 am

Papa Willie wrote: I'll venture to say you never saw him play in college.

Just because he played at Golden Corral Community College doesn't mean he's any good, tubby.

Bucmonkey · Post by **Bucmonkey** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:31 pm

Papa Willie wrote:At least the Chargers have 3 upcoming games that should be somewhat easy (Browns, Chiefs & Bucs).

While the Bucs record does not reflect it I would not consider them an easy out by any stretch. They have been competitive in every game this year, a far cry from last year's debacle.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:53 pm

Papa Willie wrote: I'll venture to say you never saw him play in college.

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. They both played in the ACC and at the same time. This is easy. Rivers is the best QB in the history of the ACC and Whitehurst isn't.

In any event, Whitehurst blows goats in the NFL. The Chargers need to fix their O line and their secondary before they need to start worrying about QB.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:37 am

they need to dump pineapple face before they do anything....why spanos doesn't realize turner is a fucking farce as a coach is beyond me...fuck, rivers would be a better head coach

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:19 pm

mvscal wrote:Rivers is the best QB in the history of the ACC

Just wanted to quote this, before mvscal realizes what a laughably ignorant take that was and edits it.

Did Cryme A Rivers win a HEisman in his ACC days? Chris Weinke did. Charlie Ward did.

Did he win a BCS Championship out of the ACC? No... Chris Weinke did.

Was he better than Matt Ryan in the ACC? Not to anyone with a working set of eyes.

How about Boomer Esiason? Nope, Rivers wasn't as good in the ACC.

While Rivers had a fine ACC career, and even broke some records, to call him "the best in ACC history" is simply homerism at a very high level.

As to his pro career, I believe Cryme A still ranks in the all-time top 5 (or so) in QB Rating... for all that's worth.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:42 pm

Dinsdale wrote:Just wanted to quote this, before mvscal realizes what a laughably ignorant take that was and edits it.

Did Cryme A Rivers win a HEisman in his ACC days? Chris Weinke did. Charlie Ward did.

Did he win a BCS Championship out of the ACC? No... Chris Weinke did.

Was he better than Matt Ryan in the ACC? Not to anyone with a working set of eyes.

How about Boomer Esiason? Nope, Rivers wasn't as good in the ACC.

While Rivers had a fine ACC career, and even broke some records, to call him "the best in ACC history" is simply homerism at a very high level.

Yes, he was a better college QB than all of the above both statistically and on the scoreboard.

Rivers:
1087/1711 63.5% 13,484 7.9 95/34 144.1

Weinke:
670/1141 58.7% 10,168 8.9 83/33 151.8

Ward:
473/759 62.3% 5,747 7.6 49/22 141.4

Ryan:
807/1346 60.0% 9,313 56/37 126.3

Esiason:
461/850 54.2% 6,259 7.4 42/27 126.0

Let's see. Most attempts, most completions, highest completion percentage, highest yardage total, most touchdowns and most starts in NCAA history and yet it is "laughably ignorant" to consider him the best QB to come out of the ACC.

Fuck off, moron.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:51 pm

So, victories in the Shit-Filet Bowl trump Heismans and winning championships in Chargertard's world-of-BODE?

I suppose that explains that empty trophy cases in San Diego... which they think equals BODE somehow.

Quite telling, indeed.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:35 pm

Dinsdale wrote:So, victories in the Shit-Filet Bowl trump Heismans and winning championships

Tebow has a Hesiman and a BCS championship. Does that make him a better QB than Rivers?

Championships are a team effort and totally meaningless in evaluating individual production at QB. Heismans are also meaningless in that they are single season awards and don't reflect an entire college career. In any event, that is totally beside YOUR point.

Opinions may differ on the best ACC QB, but to claim that it is "laughably ignorant" to put Rivers forward in that category is just pathetically stupid.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:02 am

mvscal wrote:Tebow has a Hesiman and a BCS championship. Does that make him a better QB than Rivers?

As far as executing the system in place, that's an easy question.

Yes, by a longshot.

Decades from now, one will be remembered as one of the greatest players in CFB history. The other will be honored in the future with...

"Who?"

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:48 am

Whitehurst sucks. This offseason the Chargers should bring in another QB for the future. I don't think Rivers has more than a 2-3 years left in the tank. I've read numerous articles about his decline and its starting to become apparent, especially when he tries to throw deep to Meachem, who he never hits in stride. Hopefully they'll improve their timing. Rivers performs best when he has big WR's he can throw it up high for, like Vincent Jackson, Malcolm Floyd and Gates.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:48 am

Joe in PB wrote:I don't think Rivers has more than a 2-3 years left in the tank.

Jesus Christ...he's thirty years old.

I've read numerous articles about his decline and its starting to become apparent, especially when he tries to throw deep to Meachem, who he never hits in stride.

I'm sure the fact the O line is a mess has nothing to do with it, right? It's just Rivers "getting old."

It's really looking like most Charger fans are total idiots.

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:07 am

I don't know if you've noticed, but he's starting to lose something on his passes. Of course I understand the oline stinks, so does Aaron Roger's, He's been sacked a lot this season. Don't remember too many 6 turnover games though. If Rivers has protection issues he should throw the ball away. Instead its often up for grabs.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:24 pm

Joe in PB wrote:I don't know if you've noticed, but he's starting to lose something on his passes. Of course I understand the oline stinks, so does Aaron Roger's, He's been sacked a lot this season. Don't remember too many 6 turnover games though. If Rivers has protection issues he should throw the ball away. Instead its often up for grabs.

Which is it? Is he losing something on his passes or is he making bad decisions and throwing it up for grabs?

Don't bother responding. It's a rhetorical question. Here, you'll need this.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rhetorical

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:16 pm

mvscal wrote:
Is he losing something on his passes or is he making bad decisions and throwing it up for grabs?

the two aren't mutually exclusive....I'll go with both-throw in the fact that he constantly blames everyone else for his own inadequacies blend them all together, and you come up with another dismal season....

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:38 pm

Felix wrote:
mvscal wrote:
Is he losing something on his passes or is he making bad decisions and throwing it up for grabs?

the two aren't mutually exclusive....I'll go with both-throw in the fact that he constantly blames everyone else for his own inadequacies blend them all together, and you come up with another dismal season....

He constantly blames others? Link?

There's nothing wrong his arm. He's got plenty of velocity. What he doesn't have is a solid offensive line in front him. They were gutted by injuries last year which led to the retirement of the left side of the line.

Rivers is a pocket passer who doesn't throw well on the move. The offensive line needs to be built with that in mind. Harris looks like he might make a decent left tackle eventually, but there is going to be some growing pains. It's not an easy position to play.

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 · Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:05 pm

I have it on good authority the Chargers did not lose this week. RACK them.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:30 am

mvscal wrote:
He constantly blames others? Link?

there is no "link" but when he overthrows and underthrows balls, he's always pointing at the receivers, throwing his hands up, making gestures like they should have somewhere else, etc. I'll admit the eggo receivers don't always run the best routes, but it can't be the receivers fault every time he throws it 6 feet over their head or two feet in front of them.......

There's nothing wrong his arm. He's got plenty of velocity. What he doesn't have is a solid offensive line in front him. They were gutted by injuries last year which led to the retirement of the left side of the line.

I really don't think there's anything wrong with his arm and yeah, he's got plenty of velocity.....Rivers problem has always been that he makes bad decisions and those bad decisions seemingly always come at critical points in a game.....he tries to force passes into impossibly tight windows.....while that might work in college, it seldom works in the pros.....

and yes, his offensive line is not giving him much help because as you pointed out, he's a pocket passer.....but no doubt, he still possesses the physical tools of a good quality NFL QB....his arm is a lot stronger than a lot of starting QB's.....they need a big time deep threat and neither Malcom Floyd or Robert Meachem are Vincent Jackson....without that deep threat, teams can concentrate on stopping Gates who IMHO, has always been one of the Chargers biggest offensive weapons....

but Norv Turner has got to be one of the dumbest head coaches I've ever seen, how he's kept his job is beyond me....that's another factor working against Rivers.....don't tell anybody this, but I actually think that if Rivers had more tools to work with, he could be one of the best in the NFL

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 · Thu Oct 25, 2012 3:57 pm

Felix wrote:there is no "link" but when he overthrows and underthrows balls, he's always pointing at the receivers, throwing his hands up, making gestures like they should have somewhere else, etc.

Sin,
90% of all the QBs in the league.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:33 pm

Felix wrote:I actually think that if Rivers had more tools to work with, he could be one of the best in the NFL

Oh, he works with plenty of tools.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:54 pm

I guess the answer is, "Why, yes. Yes they can."

At least they aren't the Chiefs...

atomicdad · Post by **atomicdad** » Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:04 pm

Thursday night is shaping up to be a real barn burner.

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:31 pm

KC Scott wrote:Cheaps just set a new standard for sucktitude - first team since 1940 to not lead at any point during regulation of any of their first seven games

It's really the worst looking team I've ever seen, coached by an imbelcile, managed by douche and owned by a yuppie accountant texan

fear not my good friend...ahaha the Bolts are next on the shedule and they haven't scored a TD for a month.

trev · Post by **trev** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:07 am

This is what Thursday night games are made of.

Suck and more suck.

Truman · Post by **Truman** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:53 am

Good God. That last Cassel fumble looked like a Mikey post...

trev · Post by **trev** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:01 am

Truman wrote:Good God. That last Cassel fumble looked like a Mikey post...

awkward, clumsy and embarrassing?

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:26 am

KC Scott wrote:And that last INT looked like the last 15 Cassel has thrown

worst team ever

...you mean OFF the hands of his receivers?

Truman · Post by **Truman** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:47 am

trev wrote:
Truman wrote:Good God. That last Cassel fumble looked like a Mikey post...
awkward, clumsy and embarrassing?

Mikey post = trev's wedding night? Who knew?

Sorry, Sweetie, you left a slider up on that one...

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:13 am

no doubt, the chargers looked like world beaters tonight....too bad they can't play the chefs every week

seriously, 4 turnovers with two of them going the opposite way for TD's....it was like watching a movie that was so bad you just had to keep watching to see if would get any worse-and it did.....just fucking awful.....KC definitely blows goat cak

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:05 pm

Truman wrote:
trev wrote:
Truman wrote:Good God. That last Cassel fumble looked like a Mikey post...
awkward, clumsy and embarrassing?
Mikey post = trev's wedding night? Who knew?

Sorry, Sweetie, you left a slider up on that one...

I'm glad you two were finally able to get together.

A real quality match, sort of like Chargers/Chiefs.

Truman · Post by **Truman** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:17 pm

This says it all.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:36 am

This isn’t a football team — it’s a slump buster in pads.

best line in the article.

I didn't think Mellinger had it in him.

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:04 pm

26 points by the Bolts D says it all.

kcdave · Post by **kcdave** » Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:35 am

War Wagon wrote:I didn't think Mellinger had it in him.

I've not been a big fan of Sam for the most part. But, his work on the Chiefs this season has been great.