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(!) I saw the most depressing movie in the world last night

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I got invited to the French Embassy for the 25th anniversary "party" for Reporters Without Borders and they were screening the documentary La Vida Loca. I/we had no idea what the movie was about. The email just had the name of the movie and no description and I didn't bother looking up what the movie was about beforehand. The invite just said wine reception afterward so we all assumed it was going to be a little light-hearted and fun, to say the least. We had no idea what we were getting into.

What we ended up watching was a real-life version of Menace II Society and Boyz in the Hood, except it was filmed in El Salvador and about El Salvadorian gangs. It was graphic, stark, and utterly depressing. 90 minutes long. We got a clue within the first three minutes when they showed a guy who got stapled up from his crotch (paging KC Scott) to his chest after being gutted like a fish and he had 18s all over his chest. Jesus Christ. At least the movie had boobs.

You know you have hit the depths of despair when young women are getting gang tatts on their fucking FACES.



http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/laplaza ... chris.html
'La Vida Loca' captures daily reality of El Salvador's gangs, or maras
April 10, 2009 | 7:21 am

“La Vida Loca” reflects a depressing and hopeless reality. The documentary, by photojournalist and filmmaker Christian Poveda (you can see his bio here), follows some of the members of ''la dieciocho,'' the so-called 18th Street gang in a poor San Salvador neighborhood.

“Little One” is a 19-year-old mother with an enormous "18," reflecting her membership in the 18th Street gang, tattooed on her face. The numbers stretch from above her eyebrows down onto her cheeks. (PHOTO OF HER HERE: http://www.flickr.com/photos/newcorresp ... 427732590/)

“Moreno” is a 25-year-old male member of the same gang who works in a local bakery set up by a nonprofit group called Homies Unidos. The bakery eventually folds when its owner is arrested and sentenced to 16 years in jail on homicide charges.

And ``Wizard,'' another young mother and gang member, who lost her eye in a fight, is followed by Poveda during a long series of medical consultations and operations to fit her with a replacement glass eye. She’s shot and killed before the end of the film.

Stories like that, punctuated with funerals attended by silent, heavily tattooed male gang members and wailing young wives, mothers and girlfriends, make up the sum of “La Vida Loca.”

The nature of their existence meant that Poveda had to spread his camera lens wide in the 16 months he spent shooting the film.

“I knew right from the start that I couldn't film just one character,” he explains during an interview on a trip to Mexico last month when “La Vida Loca” was part of the Guadalajara International Film Festival.

“Firstly, they get bored after a couple of months and don't want to be filmed anymore. Or two, they get put in jail, or they get killed.”

That's a reality that Poveda feels a lot of Americans don’t know about and should.

“Americans have to realize how much damage the U.S. has done to this region,” he says.

Poveda, who lives in San Salvador and has worked as a photojournalist covering the country before, during and after the 12-year-long civil war that began in 1980, is talking from experience.

The current situation in El Salvador is one of the less-inspiring examples of the long-standing social and economic ties between the United States and Latin American countries, he argues.

Gangs were formed by Salvadorans living on the streets of Los Angeles in the 1980s. When the peace accords that ended the civil war were signed in El Salvador in the early 1990s, huge numbers of gang members returned to the country, some of them by choice but most of them through deportation by U.S. authorities. Many were sent back after completing prison sentences.

As Rocky Delgadillo, a Los Angeles city attorney, notes in this column for the L.A. Times, “this only exacerbated the problem, spreading gangs like a virus until they grew into transnational `super-gangs'.”

Poverty and a lack of opportunities in post-war El Salvador made the country a ripe recruiting ground.

But gangs did exist in El Salvador before that. Tracy Wilkinson noted in her 1994 report on the issue for the L.A. Times:
“Gangs have existed in El Salvador since the late 1950s, but until recently they were more likely to be associated with schools and would fight each other over things like basketball games, perhaps over territory, but not over business interests or crime franchises.

The student gangs were not inclined to attack outsiders, and their weapons usually were nothing more deadly than knives. The war between leftist guerrillas and U.S.-backed armies in the 1980s made these gangs more violent as it made society more violent.”

However, it was after the United States began implementing their deportation policy in the 1990s that the groups grew into the super-gangs that they are today, with cliques all the way through Central America and Mexico as well as, of course, a huge presence in the U.S.

Speaking at the Mexico City premiere of “La Vida Loca” last month, Poveda said officials estimate there are 15,000 gang members in El Salvador; 14,000 in Guatemala; 35,000 in Honduras; and 5,000 in Mexico.

The biggest population of gang members still resides in the U.S., with an estimated 70,000 living there, he said.

As far as Poveda is concerned, the vast majority of the gang members in El Salvador are “victims of society, of our society. " A desperate reaction to a desperate situation.

Many would disagree. The brutally violent groups have been connected with organized crime and other illegal activities. Here in Mexico, they’re one of the parties blamed for the high levels of violent attacks and robberies against migrants traveling from Central America and heading north to the United States.

But Poveda says that their big, bad image makes them an easy target and a convenient scapegoat for crimes difficult for governments to control. He also differentiates between gang members living in the United States and those living in El Salvador.

“They live in completely different economic situations,” he says.

“It’s not the same thing selling drugs in the central market of San Salvador as it is selling drugs on Sunset Boulevard in Los Angeles,” he says, referring to the kind of profits gang members make in the two places.

When asked if he can see a day when the gangs cease to exist, Poveda says that the destruction of the networks is not the point.

“If you want to improve things, the first thing to know is that it’s not about making the gangs disappear. They need to be given another focus.”

At the time of interviewing Poveda, he had yet to secure a distribution deal for "La Vida Loca" in the U.S. The documentary opens on cinema screens here in Mexico on May 15.

-- Deborah Bonello in Mexico City
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They weren't serving wine during the movie.
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Screw_Michigan wrote:“Americans have to realize how much damage the U.S. has done to this region,” he says.

:lol:

Fuckin' George Bush.
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So I guess we should have kept those Illegal Immigrant gang bangers here in US of A so that we could deal with them rather then their homeland. I love how it is our fault......
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And you think any of us give a fuck about a bunch of spic gang bangers is some third world country ?

Let them keep killing each other there and in the US and we are all better off.

Nice waste of your time to kiss some political ass.
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I expected a lot more from a (!)
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Derron wrote:And you think any of us give a fuck about a bunch of spic gang bangers is some third world country ?

Let them keep killing each other there and in the US and we are all better off.

Nice waste of your time to kiss some political ass.
I don't have a political take, dumbass. My take was "I saw this movie, it was depressing as shit. I wasn't prepared for it."

You bitter fuckstains who take a partisan side in every situation are truly pitiable.
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Screw_Michigan wrote: I don't have a political take, dumbass. My take was "I saw this movie, it was depressing as shit. I wasn't prepared for it."

You bitter fuckstains who take a partisan side in every situation are truly pitiable.
So they held you hostage and forced you to watch it instead of you getting up and walking the fuck out and catching a game at a tavern down the street....good call there.
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You're fucking clueless, we get it.
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Screw_Michigan wrote:You're fucking clueless, we get it.
At least I did not sit through 90 minutes of wailing and tatted up spics on some piece of shit docudrama that no body gives a fuck about. If that is not butt ass fucking stupid, I don't know what is.
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Derron wrote:
Screw_Michigan wrote:You're fucking clueless, we get it.
At least I did not sit through 90 minutes of wailing and tatted up spics on some piece of shit docudrama that no body gives a fuck about. If that is not butt ass fucking stupid, I don't know what is.
It was actually pretty interesting. But depressing.
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