Ever wonder why some teams even bother? Knowing they have absolutely no chance of even a top 15 finish, much less competing for the Chase?
A scrub who can't even finish one lap still wins some BIG cash just for starting the race. I guess that makes it worthwhile just showing up and trying to qualify. Not saying it's right, wrong, or indifferent. Just what is.
And it is quite the proverbial cash cow.
Now, somebody please explain to me how it is that somebody finishing 24th makes 12 grand more than the guy who finished 23rd.
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NASCAR Results
Status: Final Last Updated: Sunday, Apr 17, 2005 7:26 pm EDT
Samsung/RadioShack 500
Texas Motor Speedway
Preview | Qualifying | Leaderboard | Results
Order Driver (No.) Car Laps Finished Laps Led Winnings Lap Progress
1 Greg Biffle (16) Ford 334 219 $522,250 Chart
2 Jamie McMurray (42) Dodge 334 0 $308,350 Chart
3 Jimmie Johnson 48 Chevrolet 334 0 $216,400 Chart
4 Casey Mears (41) Dodge 334 15 $207,908 Chart
5 Sterling Marlin (40) Dodge 334 3 $158,700 Chart
6 Michael Waltrip (15) Chevrolet 334 7 $146,050 Chart
7 Kurt Busch (97) Ford 334 2 $134,975 Chart
8 Ricky Rudd (21) Ford 334 0 $124,675 Chart
9 Dale Earnhardt Jr. 8 Chevrolet 334 0 $117,375 Chart
10 Rusty Wallace (2) Dodge 334 0 $119,200 Chart
11 Jeremy Mayfield (19) Dodge 334 34 $123,850 Chart
12 Jeff Burton (31) Chevrolet 334 0 $115,850 Chart
13 Kevin Harvick (29) Chevrolet 334 0 $110,100 Chart
14 Dale Jarrett 88 Ford 334 0 $111,425 Chart
15 Jeff Gordon (24) Chevrolet 334 1 $107,625 Chart
16 Ryan Newman (12) Dodge 334 1 $118,725 Chart
17 Joe Nemechek (01) Chevrolet 334 0 $122,983 Chart
18 Matt Kenseth (17) Ford 334 1 $101,625 Chart
19 Carl Edwards (99) Ford 334 0 $100,125 Chart
20 Mark Martin (6) Ford 334 0 $100,675 Chart
21 Kyle Busch (5) Chevrolet 334 0 $102,225 Chart
22 Mike Bliss (0) Chevrolet 333 0 $99,125 Chart
23 Ken Schrader (49) Dodge 333 3 $97,525 Chart
24 Kyle Petty (45) Dodge 333 1 $110,083 Chart
25 Mike Wallace (4) Chevrolet 333 1 $95,675 Chart
26 Dave Blaney (07) Chevrolet 332 0 $92,725 Chart
27 Boris Said (136) Chevrolet 327 0 $88,125 Chart
28 Elliott Sadler 38 Ford 324 1 $86,625 Chart
29 Hermie Sadler (66) Ford 319 0 $88,525 Chart
30 Travis Kvapil (77) Dodge 297 0 $87,375 Chart
31 Tony Stewart (20) Chevrolet 296 45 $82,975 Chart
32 Scott Riggs (10) Chevrolet 288 0 $95,533 Chart
33 Bill Elliott (91) Dodge 286 0 $81,225 Chart
34 Brian Vickers (25) Chevrolet 278 0 $79,175 Chart
35 Kasey Kahne (9) Dodge 269 0 $78,075 Chart
36 Jason Leffler (11) Chevrolet 250 0 $76,950 Chart
37 Robby Gordon (7) Chevrolet 238 0 $75,825 Chart
38 Bobby Labonte 18 Chevrolet 232 0 $74,700 Chart
39 Bobby Hamilton Jr. (32) Chevrolet 219 0 $84,122 Chart
40 Terry Labonte (44) Chevrolet 202 0 $74,450 Chart
41 Johnny Sauter (09) Dodge 98 0 $74,335 Chart
42 Scott Wimmer (22) Dodge 39 0 $74,225 Chart
43 Jeff Green (43) Dodge 31 0 $74,439 Chart
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the desparity in money for someone that finishes lower is also tied to sponsors as i understand it
mostly it comes down to the little sponsor decals that you see near the front tires... some teams have a lot of them... mostly for things like the bud pole award or gatorade victory lane or raybestos brake (break) of the race. all of these little awards get factored into the total purse. many of them, such as wix filters, moog, and clevite offer money just for having the tiny decals on the cars.
like i said, some have lots... but some only have a few. compare rusty wallaces car to someone like dale jarrett's car. wallace has one main vertical column of these decals, plus a few to the front of the tire.... while jarrett has 3 vertical columns plus two whole columns to the front of the tire. wallace chooses to have less because his main sponsor Miller Lite pays more for the sponsorship of the team to have less clutter on the car, and a more prominent view of the main sponsor.
teams have different reasons for doing (or not doing) the decals... most of it revolves around the money they provide.
hopefully that answers the question.
mostly it comes down to the little sponsor decals that you see near the front tires... some teams have a lot of them... mostly for things like the bud pole award or gatorade victory lane or raybestos brake (break) of the race. all of these little awards get factored into the total purse. many of them, such as wix filters, moog, and clevite offer money just for having the tiny decals on the cars.
like i said, some have lots... but some only have a few. compare rusty wallaces car to someone like dale jarrett's car. wallace has one main vertical column of these decals, plus a few to the front of the tire.... while jarrett has 3 vertical columns plus two whole columns to the front of the tire. wallace chooses to have less because his main sponsor Miller Lite pays more for the sponsorship of the team to have less clutter on the car, and a more prominent view of the main sponsor.
teams have different reasons for doing (or not doing) the decals... most of it revolves around the money they provide.
hopefully that answers the question.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital."
If teachers made twice as much as rock stars, which would you rather be?
There are two motivations in sports... which one is yours?
If teachers made twice as much as rock stars, which would you rather be?
There are two motivations in sports... which one is yours?
Wags, Mac is right. If you carry a sponsors sticker you get XX amount of $$. If you watch close sometimes you can pick up a new sticker from qualifying day to race day on some cars.
One example would be at a track where Canon was the offical camera of that race, they will have stickers on some of the cars. The next race they may not have that designation and so very few if any stickers will be present.
One example would be at a track where Canon was the offical camera of that race, they will have stickers on some of the cars. The next race they may not have that designation and so very few if any stickers will be present.
THE alleged cooler would have sammitches...and maybe Beer...beer that might have a Generic Label....?
El Camino?
Hell, its not like when we were YOUNG???
you're giving Wagon some 'CRED for having some Refurb Tricked out Piece El Camino........errrr....NO--->he STILL has access to all things in Kansas and Missouri... its an old Ford Falcon Wagon!
Wagon is a FORDFan now--->check his Game Picks. :D
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El Camino?
Hell, its not like when we were YOUNG???
you're giving Wagon some 'CRED for having some Refurb Tricked out Piece El Camino........errrr....NO--->he STILL has access to all things in Kansas and Missouri... its an old Ford Falcon Wagon!
Wagon is a FORDFan now--->check his Game Picks. :D
STAND Tall JinT3
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JiT3 wrote:Heck no, everyday at the track I am looking over my shoulder to see if an El Camino with a cooler in the back full of sammiches has pulled up. As of yet no sammiches.
~ sniff...someone hand me a tissue.~
'bout damn time! Ditto the welcome, brother.
So Jeff, what you're saying is that these sponsor decals pay a driver more in prize money. Hmmm...so the better they finish, they get a bigger cut, or is it just a flat fee paid to the driver for pimping the sponsors product?
I don't get it. To me, this sponsor decal money should be totally separate from NASCAR posted prize money. It's seems really unfair that the scrub drivers and teams make less jack than someone who finished behind them.
I'm so cornfused.
And Q, am not a Ford guy and never will be. Carl Edwards happens to be a homie, who can also drive the shit outta' a race car.
You guy's keep waiting on them sammitches, though you'll prolly go hungry. If'n we ever were to hook up, here in KC, I'd be treating you to some SmokeHouse or Gates BBQ and you'd be forgetting about some lousy sammitch.
Wags, most of the time there is a flat fee for carrying the decal. Sometimes, not always with every sponsor but with some, you will get a bonus for landing a top 3- 5-10 finish. I have seen sponsors come out the day after the 500 and add their sticker to the car. Not sure what they pay for that but I am sure it is a hefty amount.
Also, if your interested, I have a gallery of some shots from Indy this year at Indy Gallery
Sorry no sexy shots of Danica.
Also, if your interested, I have a gallery of some shots from Indy this year at Indy Gallery
Sorry no sexy shots of Danica.
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Atomic Punk wrote:Damn, hey Jeff! Long time no see. Was I zztop back then on TNW? I remember us trading spices and bbq stuff.
Oh hell yeah I remember that. I still have some of the Tony K's spice. I love that shit. One jar down and the second one is about half. I did see it localy on the shelf so it is available here.
Nope Wags no beaver shots of the Watson girl either. No upskirts, no bending over in a short dress, no down the shirt braless shots, nada, and if I did I wouldn't give em to you. Hell you'd wear out a wrist rubbin one out to her at lunch everyday.