We're talkin' Rock & Roll

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:08 pm

Papa Willie wrote: White Stripes aren't too bad, but the dumbasses have no bass player.

OK, go with The Raconteurs then.

Whole buncha BS going around though -- in the 80's, you could count Metallica's fans on your fingers and toes (or at least until Justice came out).

kcdave · Post by **kcdave** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:20 am

50's Elvis
60's Beatles
70's KISS
80's U2
90's Pearl Jam
00's Eminem
10's Rock music is dead

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:31 am

Scott wrote:60s - Beatles / Johnny Cash

Can I get a ruling from the judges on Johnny Cash as a rocker?

If he was, yeah, I think he merits consideration.

Dave, KISS was really the greatest band of the '70s?

Eminem is a rocker?

Good calls on Elvis, The Beatles, U2, and PJ, imo.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:51 am

kcdave wrote: 10's Rock music is dead

Sin,
People With Broken Radios

While they started a few years ago, The Black Keys are straight-up awesome.
The Dropkick Murphys have also been around a while, but bring something new to the table.
Portugal. The Man is a good band (shitty Taco Bell song notwithstanding).

Rock didn't die, your ears did.

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:56 am

Four from the 50's had their body of work cut all too short, Buddy Holly, Richie Valens, Eddie Cochrane, and Gene Vincent. Holly and Valens of course died young in that plane crash. Holly was a prolific writer and music experimenter whose legacy continues. Valens might have opened up a whole genre of Spanish influenced rock. Cochrane died very young in a car crash that injured Gene Vincent severely enough that his contributions were cut short too. Needless to say there were probably countless black rockers who got lost in the era of Jim Crow. The 50's were an exciting time for teens. We had music that was not our parents and had radios and record players so we could listen to it. My two very favorites from back then were Bill Haley & the Comets and Fats Domino. Hands down fun good time rock and roll.

kcdave · Post by **kcdave** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:24 am

Simply my opinion tart. I am not going to go into some long winded debate or some discussion on musical talent. I pretty much define "greatest" in relation to this thread as STRAIGHT CASH MONEY HOMEY! Show me a band that made more $$ in the 70's, then we may talk briefly.

Dins thank you for reinforcing my point that rock is dead.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:29 am

Buddy Holly and the Killer
Jimi and the Beatles
Elvis and Zep
Elvis and the DKs
Peppers and Green Day
Eminem and Ave D
Dada life and And And And

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:33 am

trev wrote:Mgo doesn't like music from the 70's because he was just a newborn.

My 70s music collection is more extensive than yours.

Don't do this, trev. Just leave it alone. Things were going so well between us...

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:33 am

Papa Willie wrote:White Stripes aren't too bad, but the dumbasses have no bass player.

Or drummer for that matter.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:36 am

kcdave wrote:

Dins thank you for reinforcing my point that rock is dead.

The only point I reinforced was that you are wrong.

Amazing band. And they'd have been right at home 30 years ago.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:44 am

Dinsdale wrote: The Dropkick Murphys have also been around a while, but bring something new to the table.

I have them third or fourth on the depth chart... and rising.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:59 am

Yeah, rock music isn't dead, one's desire to seek it out is dead. Plenty of great stuff out there, in all genres, if you're willing to look past your FM radio dial. It's been a long time since "good music" coincided with "popular music." Which I think is both good and bad.

But heartland tards like kcdave want everything spoon-fed. When he gets off the expressway, he wants all his dining options within a half mile radius with big brightly displayed roadside logos guiding him. There's probably a delicious mom and pop joint scattered somewhere in that mess, but why bother to look? You may not have enjoyed the meal that you settled for, but hey, at least you didn't exert any effort in the search.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:11 am

Moving Sale wrote:
Dinsdale wrote: The Dropkick Murphys have also been around a while, but bring something new to the table.
I have them third or fourth on the depth chart... and rising.

It was released in the previous decade, but I'm Shipping Up To Boston was an "instant classic."

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:54 pm

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:1950s: The bands that influenced the bands in the 60s that influenced Zeppelin.
1960s: The bands that directly influenced Zeppelin.
1970s: Zeppelin.
1980s: Zeppelin. Hey, they came out with an album in '82, right?
1990s: Jimmy Page solo stuff.
2000s: Robert Plant solo stuff.
2010s: Who knows? I'm still listening to Zeppelin.

-T1B

Oh my....

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:59 pm

BSmack wrote:Too $hort

We have a winner.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:13 pm

poptart wrote:I was hoping Mgo and Screw M could help us out with the '00s-'10s era.

So far Dins has offered up White Stripes and Modest Mouse -- and I've never heard of either.

I'm sure some 14 year old out there somewhere would read this and think, "Wow, dude doesn't know Modest Mouse?!? He's fucked. Hope I'm never that old."

60s--Beach Boys
70s--Pink Floyd, Zeppelin, Yes, Kiss, Springsteen, Neil Young, Steely Dan
80s--Rush, the Cars, GNR, Dinosaur Jr, Prince, STEVE WINWOOD's BAKC IN THE HIGH LIFE, Alan Parsons
90s--Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Nirvana, Belle and Sebastian, Built to Spill, Pavement, Smashing Pumpkins, Radiohead, Tool, Weezer
00s--Pearl Jam, Nada Surf, Arcade Fire, Interpol, LCD Soundsystem, New Pornographers, AC Newman, Air France, Belle and Sebastian, Bloc Party, Broken Social Scene, Wolf Parade, Calexico, Pinback, Plants and Animals, early Shins before Mercer made them shitty, TV on the Radio

General rule of thumb is anything Dins and Tardspary don't like is GOLD, Jerry.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:09 pm

Actually, The Cars best music was in the the 70's. As were:

REO Speedwagon
Styx
Foreigner
Journey

trev · Post by **trev** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:44 pm

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:
trev wrote:Mgo doesn't like music from the 70's because he was just a newborn.
My 70s music collection is non-existent

I am a 70's music girl. I'm not sure you can handle me.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:02 pm

Papa Willie wrote: Or at least throw Creed somewhere in there. Actually - I was almost impressed with his list. Sure - he's still a brain-dead twat that lives on penicillin and beagle dicks, but at least his heart's in the right place.

You must have missed where I listed Air France. I included that for you and Sam and Gobbles McTubesteak.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:33 pm

trev wrote:I am a 70's music girl. I'm not sure you can handle me.

If you show me yours I'll show you mine. Music collection.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sun Jan 19, 2014 2:25 am

Shit, even I can't endorse Air France.

missjo · Post by **missjo** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:17 am

2010's mainstream "Rock" is non existent
but there are still some good indie rock bands out there
Like Karnivool

trev · Post by **trev** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 4:13 pm

I'm going to settle this debate.

50's Bill Haley and the Comets
60's The Beatles
70's Led Zeppelin
80's Prince
90's Pearl Jam
00's Muse
10's One Republic

(I had to put something)

Yes, there were others. Yes, Elvis, Grateful Dead, Pink Floyd, Elton John, Foo Fighters, The Who.....

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:10 pm

Foo Fighters?

Sweet Jehosophat, they suck worse than grass clippings.

Grass Clippings · Post by **Grass Clippings** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:22 pm

Hey. Watch it now!

:brad:

Truman · Post by **Truman** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:50 pm

War Wagon wrote:

PL · Post by PL » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:56 pm

safe to say Dave Matthews has owned 2000-2010

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:29 pm

Papa Willie wrote:
Derron wrote:
Papa Willie wrote:[

They weren't the natural musicians the ABB was, so improvising wasn't really their thing. However, they had a LOT of intricate shit in their songs that most people really don't even notice. Listen to a tune like "I Ain't the One". God damn - that is some seriously complex shit going on behind the singing. Alan said that they would work on one song like that for sometimes 16 hours a day in a non-AC hell hole in the woods in Jacksonville in the summer. Nothing too appealing about that!
Skynyrd has one cut on one of their albums, where they have Duane Allman and Dickie Betts playing live with them. I am not finding it, but heard it the other day. Skynyrd did great covering JJ Cale stuff too.
Btw - Alan wrote back and said he actually didn't know if that ever happened or not. Let me know if you EVER find something like that out there, though!

If I run into the biker head who claims he was there, I will ask him. I see him 2 or 3 times a year.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:36 pm

War Wagon wrote:Actually, The Cars best music was in the the 70's. As were:

REO Speedwagon
Styx
Foreigner
Journey

Trouble is Wags, for every good tune each one of those groups put out, you had to suffer though copious amounts of horrible other cuts.

REO- Riding the Storm Out
Styx - Grand Illusion / Renegade
Foreigner - Back Where you Belong / Hot Blooded
Journey - I did not like one single song this group did, but chicks dug it, so you had to act like you did to.

Smackie Chan · Post by **Smackie Chan** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:48 pm

Derron wrote:Journey - I did not like one single song this group did, but chicks dug it, so you had to act like you did to.

Listen to some of what they put out before Steve Perry ruined 'em...

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:04 pm

Grass Clippings wrote:Hey. Watch it now!

:brad:

best troll nic ever.

Thing is, I'm pretty sure Rack Fu was pretty geeked over The Foo Fighters, thus the oblique reference that only a few would get.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:15 pm

As for Journey, I think Wheel In The Sky and Anyway You Want It are pretty decent songs. How they devolved from that to what they became in the 80's... same reason REO, Styx, and Foreigner did. All trying to please record company dicks and become popular with the 13-16 year old girl demographic or whatever the hell it was they were after.

At least The Cars never sold out, not to that degree.

Jay in Phoenix · Post by **Jay in Phoenix** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:48 pm

No, the Cars could never be accused of "selling out", they just were what they were, a solid band with an original sound. Great? Eh, I would say very good, not great. However, once Ben Orr passed, they never were quite the same.

As to Journey/REO Speedwagon, Journey did lose a more rocking edge by the addition of Steve Perry, but they gained a pretty amazing vocalist, despite what you feel about his influence. Now just imagine if REO had retained original vocalist Terry Luttrell. Ever hear that dude's vocals? His high pitched wail might have worked okay for Yes ripoff Starcastle, but REO made the right move by running him. Can't even imagine a tune like "Riding the Storm Out" by Luttrell.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:21 am

I don't know what genre you place The Cars in. All I know is that when they came out with that first monster album, I had never heard anything like it. And it took awhile for them to grow on me but before long I was digging it. Then when Candy-O came out, I was like hooked.

I'm no music expert, but I think a whole lot of bands came along after The Cars trying to capture that sound. Few succeeded. Cheap Trick, maybe.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:23 am

trev wrote:I'm going to settle this debate.

50's Bill Haley and the Comets
60's The Beatles
70's Led Zeppelin
80's Prince
90's Pearl Jam
00's Muse
10's One Republic (I had to put something)

Yes, there were others. Yes, Elvis, Grateful Dead, Pink Floyd, Elton John, Foo Fighters, The Who.....

trev, your tastes are bland and predictable...

...but that's okay, because your kind tend to be the freakiest.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:27 am

fuck it, caint hep myself.

Rik Ocasek may have been the coolest person on the planet at that time.

kcdave · Post by **kcdave** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:10 am

The Cars were the most boring "rock" concert I have ever been to. They came out, played, left, just like video Wags posted. Didn't bother to say Hi, Bye, or kiss my ass. I would not be surprised if sound had been recorded prior and was being played back. It sounded EXACTLY like the records. If I had wanted to listen to the album, I could have sat the fuck at home.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:28 am

They are there to play music. If you want interaction go to the circus.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:37 am

Never got to see them in concert myself, so I couldn't say. I will say that the most disappointing concert I ever went to was Aerosmith in the early 80's. Just white noise and bad feedback. And this was at Memorial Hall which supposedly had great acoustics.

Best concerts I've ever been to? Foghat at Starlight closely followed by BTO at Verizon.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:29 am

If I had ever seen Pink Floyd, I might've called it quits myself.