Do THESE people represent the American they "want back"?

Q, West Coast Style · Post by **Q, West Coast Style** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:39 pm

If so, I'll stick with the new one. These people aren't exactly Coca Cola Classic.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:17 pm

The moronic nature of these folks pretty much speaks for itself. They're scared and extremely insecure. And why shouldn't they be? Their preachers and parsons have been filling them with fear and hatred for years, they've supported the same grossly incompetent crooks and lunatics who started the wars and raped the nation's economy, and they haven't a clue as to any answers or solutions--'cept the Rapture. The big goon dragging the (wheeled) cross while wearing a star of David tee shirt is certainly emblematic of this lost tribe. They won't be missed.

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:22 pm

Epic posts so far. I think the two of you should run for office. Obviously you have a great handle on the geo-political, economic and cultural issues of the day.

Thanks for posting this. All our problems have been solved.

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:25 pm

Q, West Coast Style wrote:If so, I'll stick with the new one. These people aren't exactly Coca Cola Classic.

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Nice job. Like it is soooo hard to cherry pick extremist signs when you get a couple hundred thousand people together....as opposed to the rational, patriotic verbiage with the marches of Code Pink, open border loons, anything with farrakhan, Peta, A.N.S.W.E.R., etc. etc. etc....

Mustang · Post by **Mustang** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:48 pm

LTS TRN 2 wrote:The liberals. They're scared and extremely insecure. And why shouldn't they be? Their preachers and parsons have been filling them with fear and hatred for years, they've supported the same grossly incompetent crooks and lunatics who started the wars and raped the nation's economy, and they haven't a clue as to any answers or solutions--'cept the Rapture. The big goon dragging the picture of Bush as Hitler is certainly emblematic of this lost tribe. They won't be missed.

FTFY

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:34 pm

more captures from the rally

they came UNARMED THIS TIME, I guess next time they'll be packin heat

she wants to know where her gun is. not sure what she needs a gun for but you're guess is as good as mine

god bless Fox News for keeping them infromed...

how many times did somebody point out to this idiot that he's got politician and diapers wrong, yet he still carries it with pride

another that came unarmed THIS TIME....wow, I think just attending this type thing would tend to lower the IQ of attendees by about 10-20 points

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:39 pm

Way uncooth.

Thanks for the evidence Felix.

I think they need to chill out with all of that form of protest and simply resort to throwing urine and fecal matter on crowd control officers.

That's a much more civil form of protest.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:12 pm

well dawg, if you're good with people packing loaded weapons to "peaceful" assemblies protesting government, well I'm not sure how to respond to that...and exactly what's the point here....I may be wrong, but virtually every time I've heard someone say "I'm going to get a gun" they usually had some pretty bad intentions on their minds....but maybe these heat packing folk are different somehow

I'd like to see any piece of legislation that Obama has supported to repress gun ownership in this country....the bottom line, I can't remember Obama talking about gun ownership once....I might be wrong, but I can't remember it

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:27 pm

He evidently has some people convinced...can't buy rounds anywhere in SoCal....

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:36 pm

The Seer wrote:He evidently has some people convinced...can't buy rounds anywhere in SoCal....

I think that's probably more attributable to the screech mongers than it is to anything Obama has said or done.....again, I'm unaware of Obama referencing anything having to do with gun ownership....

but dude, if you need ammo let me know....I live in a gun rights state and the stores here are stocked to the brim with any kind of ammunition you might need for the coming......whatever is coming

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:29 am

Felix wrote:I'm unaware of Obama referencing anything having to do with gun ownership....

That's because you're a dumb fuck

KC Scott · Post by **KC Scott** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:41 am

You gotta hand it to Rove, Rush and the other GOPs who somehow managed to get half the country hating the other half via AM radio. To be honest you could credit everthing from McVeigh bombing in OKC to the recent shooting of George Tiller in Wichita to that mindset.

If you think about it, you have a couple hundred thousand people gathering together (And I'll guess more than a few are unemployed) to protest being given a choice of a Govt. backed health care option. It's mind boggling. I can't believe UNC, Aetna and Cigna wern't all out there giving away t-shirts and cans of red bull.

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:48 am

KC Scott wrote:You gotta hand it to Rove, Rush and the other GOPs who somehow managed to get half the country hating the other half via AM radio. To be honest you could credit everthing from McVeigh bombing in OKC to the recent shooting of George Tiller in Wichita to that mindset.

If you think about it, you have a couple hundred thousand people gathering together (And I'll guess more than a few are unemployed) to protest being given a choice of a Govt. backed health care option. It's mind boggling. I can't believe UNC, Aetna and Cigna wern't all out there giving away t-shirts and cans of red bull.

Do you actually believe what you just typed ? Do you REALLY think the dichotomy in this country started with Rove, Rush and the other GOPs ? Good Christ man.

KC Scott · Post by **KC Scott** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:56 am

Funny but until Clinton's term I don't seem to recall the vitriol.

But Sure Tom, why don't you enlighten us?

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:57 am

KC Scott wrote:Funny but until Clinton's term I don't seem to recall the vitriol.

But Sure Tom, why don't you enlighten us?

How about you crack open a history book dude.

KC Scott · Post by **KC Scott** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:00 am

Sorry to interupt your prayer meeting Tom.

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:03 am

What the fuck is that supposed to mean

Good Christ man, aren't you filled with presumption.

Where do you want to start Revolutionary times ? Civil War era ? 20th Century ?

KC Scott · Post by **KC Scott** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:10 am

mvscal wrote:Yes, of course. Reagan was never the subject of any partisan vitriol.

Get a clue.

I was in my 20's during most of the Regan era. I'm hard pressed to remember any anti-Regan anything. Maybe it's beacuse we were all doing coke and disco. Seriously, the best decade of this country's history was the 80's.

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:15 am

KC Scott wrote: Maybe it's beacuse we were all doing coke and disco.

Gee. Ya think ? :P

For the record I did not partake in any of that shit. I was also in grade school and high school in the 80's though. But come from a very politically charged family. Christ dude, vitriol existed at the dinner table as much as it did in the news.

Which isn't uncommon. During the Revolution, or right just prior to it, whole families were torn asunder by the choices made by some to remain loyal to England and others to join the "cause". Quite literally, there were fathers against sons (Ben Franklin was one), brothers against brothers, cousins agin cousins.

KC Scott · Post by **KC Scott** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:20 am

Tom In VA wrote: For the record I did not partake in any of that shit..

Damn, now we know why you're so fucked up. You've repressed all normal human desires and substituted rage at the lost opportunity of your youth.

Hate On Tom, Hate On

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:27 am

lol, I was 10 when 1980 started dude. I engaged in my own stupidity in the early 1990's and pretty much up until 2002 (boozewise anyway).

OCmike · Post by **OCmike** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:35 am

KC Scott wrote:I'm hard pressed to remember any anti-Regan anything.

[rant]
Dude, you spent way too much time pointing and dancing while wearing a collar big enough for three shirts. Reagan was slammed constantly throughout his first term. You don't remember the "trickle-down theory", the cornerstone of Reaganomics, being referred to as a metaphor for big corporations pissing on the little guy (sup TVO)? Hell, I was only about 10 then and I remember it clearly.

There's plenty of slack-jawed yokels in any large protest, and the DC crowd is no exception. That doesn't mean that they're wrong to be pissed and it's not about "free" healthcare. There's really only two ways for Barry O to pay for this without increasing the deficit, as he claims: Shitloads of taxes on us directly or a fuckton of taxes indirectly by heavily taxing healthplans that are passed along to you and I. The latter is what's currently being proposed, and for those of us with private healthcare, we'll either get a huge cut in coverage to cover the costs or a huge bump in required employee contributions...or likely both. Dunno about you, but that's change I don't believe in.

My company is currently hemmoraging jobs trying to lower costs to be more competitive in the coming clusterfuck healthcare exchange. You might think that's all fine and good, but before this wonderful change, my employer was the plan everyone wanted in this area because of the state-of-the-art treatments that were available and the top notch doctors in the area. We are now in the process of shit-canning all aspects of the company's award-wining customer service, slashing the R&D budget, puting in hiring freezes in every department that isn't experiencing layoffs and are recruiting low-priced PCPs instead of the world-class specialists that used to flock here.

My job is safe, but there's a whole lot of good people in my department who had a great job 12 months ago and can now look forward to the unemployment line and a foreclosed house. But hey, they can look on the bright side, right? Their jobs were expendable so that a chick who works at Wal-Mart because she got pregnant at 15 can get her Valtrex for free.

You lemmings who think that Obama is fixing anything are hilarious. He's not even addressing the most egregious problems with the industry, but I'm sure it's all good because he's really trying. Have you even bothered to do any research on this garbage? Like any government bullshit program, they're looking for ways to throw huge amounts of money at a legitmate problem without having any real plan for how that money will be spent, any credible system to track fraud or any way to control costs. Not a big surprise that he's not fixing any of the massive moneypits in the current system though, since two of his three biggest contributors were those in the legal and healthcare industries. But then I'm sure you knew that.

Anyone can have an opinion dude, but having an informed one is a choice.

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BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:52 am

OCmike wrote:You don't remember the "trickle-down theory", the cornerstone of Reaganomics, being referred to as a metaphor for big corporations pissing on the little guy (sup TVO)? Hell, I was only about 10 then and I remember it clearly.

That's not partisan vitriol, its fact.

OCmike · Post by **OCmike** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:52 am

BSmack doesn't know the definition of "partisan vitriol"?!

Oh irony, how you mock us.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:15 am

Tom In VA wrote:
KC Scott wrote: Maybe it's beacuse we were all doing coke and disco.
Christ dude, vitriol existed at the dinner table as much as it did in the news.

Tom, why do you keep saying "Christ dude"...?

Seriously, are you having a spiritual crisis? Or a grammatical one? Really, I know it's just a comma, but if you say "Christ, dude..," it's a hell of a lot different than saying "Christ dude.." as though he's the dud with Christ-like qualities, etc...never mind. :wink:

As for vitriol being the norm, yer dead wrong. Even during the Vietnam war and Watergate the basic code of civility prevailed in congress. As for the often violent protests of the Vietnam war, why not? It was after all a horribly immoral and ghastly war crime of the very highest level. It was a grossly illegal and disastrous campaign of lies and slaughter--and we lost completely.

Reagan never got the blow back he deserved--'cept from Hinckley (his parents having had dinner with GW Bush the night before the shooting!)--and the entrenched criminality of his administration, though studded with indictments and convictions, managed to pass like a great national fart.

No, the lunatic right in this country is at an all time high. From genuine hillbilly morons like Glenn Beck to demented blathering whores like Rusp Limpdick, the toxic spoor of Karl Rove continues to spread like an infection.

There's no arguing with a religious fanatic, first of all. So, if that's all that's left of the GOP--fearful, tantrum throwing, gun-toting, screamers, well...sucks to be you. But it sucks as well having to deal with them. And we're all in it together, which really sucks.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:40 am

OCmike wrote:
KC Scott wrote:I'm hard pressed to remember any anti-Regan anything.
[rant]
Dude, you spent way too much time pointing and dancing while wearing a collar big enough for three shirts. Reagan was slammed constantly throughout his first term. You don't remember the "trickle-down theory", the cornerstone of Reaganomics, being referred to as a metaphor for big corporations pissing on the little guy (sup TVO)? Hell, I was only about 10 then and I remember it clearly.

Gee, I wonder why they would think that?

Perhaps it might have something to do with the difference between the highest & lowest paid workers exploding during the republicans' of the eighties. Perhaps it might be related to the growth in the number of working people utilizing food banks.

Yep...Reaganomics caused a lot of working people to get pissed on.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:55 pm

mvscal wrote:Yes, of course. Reagan was never the subject of any partisan vitriol. Neither was Carter, Nixon, LBJ, Kennedy and the et ceteras stretch all the way back to John Adams.

Get a clue.

Hmmm, I can't ever recall people packing loaded guns to Reagan rallies...I can't ever remember pictures of Reagan, Nixon, or any other of the Presidents you've named being painted with Hitler like moustaches and being called facists, socialists, Nazi's, etc. I can't remember people carrying signs like "the tree of liberty needs watering" to Reagan, Nixon, or Bush rallies...

I do remember Bush being called a neo-con and a war monger (both of which are true in the purest sense), but I hardly think that's the equivalent to being called a Nazi or a facist

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:24 pm

Dear Mr. Fantasy, play us a song.

Katy · Post by **Katy** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:58 pm

WOAH. RACK mvscal.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:02 pm

mvscal wrote:
Go fuck yourself, bitch.

dude, you need to take a chill pill....I said I didn't remember it happening, but I never claimed it didn't happen....that's seriously fucked up and those people are dead fucking wrong

so do you think anybody has justification for this type of behavior against any standing president?

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:04 pm

LTS TRN 2 wrote: Tom, why do you keep saying "Christ dude"...? :meds: Seriously, are you having a spiritual crisis? Or a grammatical one? Really, I know it's just a comma, but if you say "Christ, dude..," it's a hell of a lot different than saying "Christ dude.." as though he's the dud with Christ-like qualities, etc...never mind.

Grammar smack with grammatical errors is always fresh.

It's "different from."

Always.

Something doesn't "differ than" something else -- it differs FROM it.

Similar TO, different FROM.

OCmike · Post by **OCmike** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:48 pm

Dunno why you knuckleheads think any of this hullaballoo is about Barry's roots. All of the signs I've seen have been about his spending and loomingtax hikes...and this from the crowd who wouldn't piss out the flames if Ja'micha'el was on fire.

What I am seeing is a lot of pissed off people who bought into the centrist message and "I won't fuck your butthole shut like other Prez's", and were sold the most liberal President to date, who lied his way to the WH just like the rest. Hell, even the guy whispering, "one at this price" in an auto dealer's commercial thinks Barry pulled a brutal bait and switch on those that voted for him.

So save your "respect the office and/or rank" horseshit. The only people who have to do that shit is servicemen. The best he can hope for from the rest of us is that we finish off "Go fuck yourself" with ",Mr President".

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:17 pm

You Vapid, Racist fuckstain you

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:22 am

Dinsdale wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote: Tom, why do you keep saying "Christ dude"...? Seriously, are you having a spiritual crisis? Or a grammatical one? Really, I know it's just a comma, but if you say "Christ, dude..," it's a hell of a lot different than saying "Christ dude.." as though he's the dud with Christ-like qualities, etc...never mind.

Grammar smack with grammatical errors is always fresh.

It's "different from."

Always.

Something doesn't "differ than" something else -- it differs FROM it.

Similar TO, different FROM.

Sure, but mine's an innocuous mistake--a loafing city worker--and not nearly as bad as his texting train conductor.

mvscal wrote:
Felix wrote: I can't remember people carrying signs like "the tree of liberty needs watering" to Reagan, Nixon, or Bush rallies...

I do remember Bush being called a neo-con and a war monger (both of which are true in the purest sense), but I hardly think that's the equivalent to being called a Nazi or a facist
That's because your head is stuck up your motherfucking ass, you stupid, lying faggot.

Go fuck yourself, bitch.

Yer right, Avi, the Chimp was no Hitler.

This guy was

No, the Chimp was really more like this guy, 'cept put in the puppetcy of president.

Notice how Gramps

looks (and thinks) a lot like

Uncle Reinhard

Just sayin'

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:16 am

Felix wrote:so do you think anybody has justification for this type of behavior against any standing president?

Why no, Dan, it is simply awful.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:46 am

poptart wrote:
Why no, Dan, it is simply awful.

it is awful, regardless of who the President is....contrary to mvscals usual rantings, I believe a certain amount of respect should be accorded for the office, regardless of whether you like the guy or not...take for example Reagan...Nixon was a fucking crook, but I actually shed a tear when he was forced to resign, because I still respected what he accomplished and still had a lot of respect for him....I disliked the both guys immensely, but never lost respect for who they were and what they represented....but that's okay, the damage to the reputation of the office was done years ago, so I guess we should just treat him like any other civil service employee

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:10 am

KC Scott wrote:
mvscal wrote:Yes, of course. Reagan was never the subject of any partisan vitriol.

Get a clue.
I was in my 20's during most of the Regan era. I'm hard pressed to remember any anti-Regan anything.

That must have been some good shit you were free-basing, to not remember any of the hate towards Ronnie. The libs hated on him even more than they did W. Thought he was going to start WWIII and end the world. Nevermind he was right and ended the cold war, libs need something to whine about constantly.

Genesis - Land of Confusion 1986

KC Scott · Post by **KC Scott** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:37 am

A Genisis Song is Radical Protest? More hate than W?

Fail.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:57 am

That song was just thrown in because it's a funny video, regardless of your politics or lack thereof.

But yeah, the left really hated Ronnie. Just didn't have the innerweb back then or chumps like LTS would've gone postal long ago.

Terry in Crapchester · Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:58 am

The "left's" alleged "hatred" of Reagan had more to do with policy differences than with anything else. Beginning with Clinton, it seems to me that vitriol directed at the President has been of a more personal nature than in the past (that's recent past, mvscal).