Buck O'Neil...DEAD!

Rich Fader · Post by **Rich Fader** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 4:22 am

94 years young.

R.I.P., big man. You deserve it.

Nice going, Cooperstown. You suck.

Ang · Post by **Ang** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 4:54 am

Rich.

You already know who Buck Neal was...but many of us don't, or didn't until you posted about his death. There are a hell of a lot of things to keep up with in this world, so I salute you for letting the shallow baseball fans like me know (I mean the shallow thing sincerely, cause I only follow my kids team and the MLB playoffs each year) about his death.

A link that provides a short synopsis of his life is here, for those of us who didn't know about him until your post. Classic example of how "America's game" left a whole shitload of great players behind in the cultural setting at the time.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:11 am

All charm, no numbers. No Hall.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 6:58 am

LTS TRN 2 wrote:All charm, no numbers. No Hall.

Do you know what the Negro Leagues were?

One more thing...

Reggie Jackson wrote:"What a fabulous human being," Hall of Famer Reggie Jackson said Friday night. "He was a blessing for all of us. I believe that people like Buck and Rachel Robinson and Martin Luther King and Mother Teresa are angels that walk on earth to give us all a greater understanding of what it means to be human. I'm not sad for him. He had a long, full life and I hope I'm as lucky, but I'm sad for us."

#44 just said it all.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 7:33 am

Mother Theresa doesn't get in either.

James Dean Bradfield · Sat Oct 07, 2006 11:51 am

put him in the negro league hall of fame then ...

No numbers , no hall .......

Tinker to Evers to Chance · Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:12 pm

James Dean Bradfield wrote:put him in the negro league hall of fame then ...

No numbers , no hall .......

I guess you'd kick Satchel Page out, then?

His MLB numbers certainly aren't worthy of getting in the Hall. He didn't even pitch for 10 seasons.

Oh, and I guess we should toss Josh Gibson out too, while we're at it, because he never played outside of the Negro Leagues.

It's pretty assinine to exclude people from the Hall who didn't have the chance to prove themselves against the white ballplayers.

Rich Fader · Post by **Rich Fader** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:48 pm

Well, excuuuuuuuse me. They didn't have "the cream" and "the clear" back when ole Buck was playing. Maybe if they had, he'd have "the numbers" and he'd "deserve" to be in the Hall.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 2:22 pm

LTS TRN 2 wrote:Mother Theresa doesn't get in either.

If she did for baseball what Buck O'Niel did, she'd deserve it too.

Baseball may be the most statisticly driven game around, but it's not ALL about the numbers. The HoF recognizes contributions to the game both on and off the field.

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 2:26 pm

He should've gotten in because he's an ambassador of the game and a bridge between the dark days (bad pun) of segregation in baseball to today's game where players from all over the globe are playing together. It's a shame he won't be able to witness his eventual enshrinement into the Hall...the stupid voters are going to let him in now out of pity. That's not what he deserved...much respect for Buck and those other great men from the Negro League.

DamnTheCowboys · Post by **DamnTheCowboys** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:03 pm

RACK ME!!!

That's TWO of Five I've gotten in the Death Pool this year! FIrst Lillian Asplund, Titanic survivor, now Buck!

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:36 pm

DamnTheCowboys wrote:RACK ME!!!

That's TWO of Five I've gotten in the Death Pool this year! FIrst Lillian Asplund, Titanic survivor, now Buck!

Too bad you got a net 7 points out of those two.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 9:08 pm

yeah, no shit. you got anybody under 90, ftdc?

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:11 pm

I was out of town yesterday and just got back this afternoon. I hadn't heard any news of this, and only found out after opening todays KC Star and saw this news plastered all over the front page. Even though everyone kind of expected this to happen sooner rather than later, it's still extremely sad and disappointing news.

Buck was a truly beloved figure here, and will be greatly missed. He gave and gave, and then gave some more of himself to enrich the lives of all those around him. He was a joyful person who lived a fulfilling life.

Even though he got hosed by the MLB HOF, he was in life's and now is in God's Hall of Fame.

RIP, Buck

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 11:16 pm

BSmack wrote:
DamnTheCowboys wrote:RACK ME!!!

That's TWO of Five I've gotten in the Death Pool this year! FIrst Lillian Asplund, Titanic survivor, now Buck!
Too bad you got a net 7 points out of those two.

How many points you got?

Feel free to shut the fuck up the next opportunity you get to do so

Nishlord · Post by **Nishlord** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 1:17 am

James Dean Bradfield wrote:No numbers , no hall .......

How's Mark McGwire's bust coming along, then?

JCT · Post by **JCT** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 1:19 am

Nishlord wrote:
James Dean Bradfield wrote:No numbers , no hall .......
How's Mark McGwire's bust coming along, then?

Pretty good, I hear that the needle marks will look sweet.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 3:54 am

Cuda wrote:
BSmack wrote:
DamnTheCowboys wrote:RACK ME!!!

That's TWO of Five I've gotten in the Death Pool this year! FIrst Lillian Asplund, Titanic survivor, now Buck!
Too bad you got a net 7 points out of those two.
How many points you got?

Jackoffs posting about death pool points?

You both need to stfu and not sully this thread with that type of banter.

Show some respect.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 3:57 am

And one more damn thing.

If you engage in death pool threads, you are a straight up fucking moron who can go fuck yourself.

BBMarley · Post by **BBMarley** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 4:40 am

War Wagon wrote:And one more damn thing.

If you engage in death pool threads, you are a straight up fucking moron who can go fuck yourself.

We also have a pool about the number of chicks your daughter munches in her dorm room.. You want in?

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 4:44 am

Shit - was there a pool for how many posts whitey would make before the pile on began, or did everyone just pick one?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:17 am

Cuda wrote:
BSmack wrote:
DamnTheCowboys wrote:RACK ME!!!

That's TWO of Five I've gotten in the Death Pool this year! FIrst Lillian Asplund, Titanic survivor, now Buck!
Too bad you got a net 7 points out of those two.
How many points you got?

I got María Capovilla beyotch.

bray2 · Post by **bray2** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 2:00 pm

BBMarley wrote:
War Wagon wrote:And one more damn thing.

If you engage in death pool threads, you are a straight up fucking moron who can go fuck yourself.
We also have a pool about the number of chicks your daughter munches in her dorm room.. You want in?

My nipples are hard.

OCmike · Post by **OCmike** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 2:07 pm

bray2 wrote:
BBMarley wrote:
War Wagon wrote:And one more damn thing.

If you engage in death pool threads, you are a straight up fucking moron who can go fuck yourself.
We also have a pool about the number of chicks your daughter munches in her dorm room.. You want in?
My nipples are hard.

From fantasizing about "Girls Softball Catcher" getting her box mowed? Your nipples have low standards.

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 4:37 pm

RIP

MLB fucked up big time not including him in this past year's inductees.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:22 am

First, what exactly does an "ambassador to the game" mean? Sure, he was a charming fellow, but regardless of what league he played in--or wasn't allowed to play in--his numbers simply don't add up to Hall Of Fame credentials. Not even close.

Mark Maguire has 580+ bombs, that's it. Forget the 'roids--after all, they weren't illegal when he (obviously) appeared to have taken them (and rejuvenated a properly clanking and sputtering farm-boy power career). Palmeiro is a much tougher decision.

Mother Theresa?...Are you kidding? Please, ANYONE, name one thing she ever did that was in any way productive or helpful to the world--the TEAM (of which you're a member). An ignorant Italian woman, her simple fanatical obeisance to the Church was utterly repugnant. As for the terminally starving Indians she rounded up for her hospices, they had the unexpected experience of what the Church doctrine deems "the beatitude of suffering," wherein any anodines or relief from pain are expressly forbidden, so the penitant victim can so utterly receive the full blessing of a painful death. Conceived in the Dark Ages, this insane paradigm lives on ONLY in the Church's outreach third-world stench-trenches like New Delhi. She had a knack for fundraising, and the Church really appreciated that--even going so far as declaring her a "saint"--complete with a verified Miracle. I'm sure the ex-Nazi "Rotweillor of the Vatican" Pope thinks she was just swell.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 11:54 am

LTS TRN 2 wrote:First, what exactly does an "ambassador to the game" mean?

It means he's done a lot for the game. If it has to be explained to you, then you're not smart enough to be debating this subject to begin with. Learn something and get back to us.