NHL to play 30 games

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:14 am

nhlpa has sent 3 peeps to ny to get deal done

now blues can deal pronger!! since gaptooth doesnt want to sign deal here

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:16 am

Adelpiero wrote:nhlpa has sent 3 peeps to ny to get deal done

I hope you're right...

I bet if they tried to hammer something out in the next couple of days, they could still have a season. I know Yzerman has been vocal in the fact that it's not too late. I bet he still wants to play and doesn't want to wait until next fall.

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:28 am

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=1994750

Not holding my breath but anything can happen...

Hapday · Post by **Hapday** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:45 am

I call bullshit.

fix · Post by **fix** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:53 am

Hapday wrote:I call bullshit.

I don't.

Otis from back on February 15th wrote:Make it $45 million plus benefits and I think it'd be fair.
As long as they also have revenue sharing and luxery taxes included in the agreement.

Even though I am against the idea of a hard cap.
So much for the notion of capitalism and a free market.

AcidQueen · Post by **AcidQueen** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 2:32 am

Hapday wrote:I call bullshit.

I won't go quite that far, but I'll believe it when I see it.

I also call Goodenow's head on a pike in front of my apartment by this time next month. Just sayin'.

Laxplayer · Post by **Laxplayer** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:31 am

They will play. I just got a phone call from a friend who is the president of a certain stick company and they've been getting orders. My wife then just called her producer and he confirms that they're getting a deal done. Look for an announcement tomorrow.........

AcidQueen · Post by **AcidQueen** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:58 am

I'm still skeptical, but I'm washing my jersey tonight and wearing my 'Canes hat at work just in case.

scritti · Post by **scritti** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:00 am

keep the faith gang,i'd be all for Goodenow taking the sword at the end.

Smoked Meat · Post by **Smoked Meat** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:03 am

Laxplayer wrote:They will play. I just got a phone call from a friend who is the president of a certain stick company and they've been getting orders.

Maybe people are ordering hockey sticks because the lockout will drag on for years and such items will become praised antiques on Ebay?

Cross Traffic · Post by **Cross Traffic** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:05 am

According to the article on Yahoo, the plans are for a March 1 start date, just enough time to get 28 games done in about 45 days.

Smoked Meat · Post by **Smoked Meat** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:06 am

AcidQueen wrote:...but I'm washing my jersey tonight and wearing my 'Canes hat at work just in case.

:roll: please

Hapday · Post by **Hapday** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:53 am

Otis wrote:
Hapday wrote:I call bullshit.
I don't.

Otis from back on February 15th wrote:Make it $45 million plus benefits and I think it'd be fair.
As long as they also have revenue sharing and luxery taxes included in the agreement.

Even though I am against the idea of a hard cap.
So much for the notion of capitalism and a free market.

:roll: :roll:

Yeah, the NHL is going to agree to a $45 million hard cap after yanking a $42.5 million cap off the table. :roll: :roll: Get your shoulders to tell your ass they miss your head.

Cross Traffic · Post by **Cross Traffic** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:00 am

Food for thought;

Curtis Brown and Dave Karpa didn't dress for the Gulls tonight, neither did any of the NHLers on the Motor City Mechanics.

fix · Post by **fix** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:01 am

Hapday wrote:
Otis wrote:
Hapday wrote:I call bullshit.
I don't.

Otis from back on February 15th wrote:Make it $45 million plus benefits and I think it'd be fair.
As long as they also have revenue sharing and luxery taxes included in the agreement.

Even though I am against the idea of a hard cap.
So much for the notion of capitalism and a free market.
:roll: :roll:

Yeah, the NHL is going to agree to a $45 million hard cap after yanking a $42.5 million cap off the table. :roll: :roll: Get your shoulders to tell your ass they miss your head.

:roll:

That's the most popular number being thrown around by the reports coming from the supposed inside sources.

The one other proposal being mentioned is a sliding scale.
Starting a 42.5 and going up each year to 45 over the course of the term.

Hap, the players are not going to bend over any further.
They're going to meet tommorrow.

MuchoBulls · Post by **MuchoBulls** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:05 am

AcidQueen wrote:I also call Goodenow's head on a pike in front of my apartment by this time next month. Just sayin'.

IN!

fix · Post by **fix** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:13 am

$45 million cap agreed to according to the Hockey News.

http://www.thehockeynews.com/en/headlin ... 4945254360

Sorry Hap, looks like you lost this one

Cross Traffic · Post by **Cross Traffic** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:17 am

Otis must be Goodenow's bed buddy.

"We'll never accept a cap...." That is the line of bullshit we have been fed for 2 years.

Captain Haddock · Post by **Captain Haddock** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:21 am

..as Dany Heatley speeds towards the Moscow airport.

fix · Post by **fix** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:23 am

Cross Traffic wrote:Otis must be Goodenow's bed buddy.

"We'll never accept a cap...." That is the line of bullshit we have been fed for 2 years.

And so that would make you who? Betteman's pillow biter?

"We must have cost certainty and linkage to revenues going forward..."

Pot kettle much?
:roll:

fix · Post by **fix** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:24 am

Captain Haddock wrote:..as Dany Heatley speeds towards the Moscow airport.

RACK!!

Cross Traffic · Post by **Cross Traffic** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:30 am

I hate Bettman just as much as Goodenow. Both of them need to be given their pink slips. Under the count's leadership, games on espn have gone from over 100 per season down to 40. They do a shit job of marketing the game and its players. Overexpansion has hurt the game as well, the league should have stoped with the 93 expansion which left the league with 26 teams.

Hopefully with announcement of the season, that rules changes designed to speed up the game and add scoring are added.

fix · Post by **fix** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:34 am

Cross Traffic wrote:I hate Bettman just as much as Goodenow. Both of them need to be given their pink slips. Under the count's leadership, games on espn have gone from over 100 per season down to 40. They do a shit job of marketing the game and its players. Overexpansion has hurt the game as well, the league should have stoped with the 93 expansion which left the league with 26 teams.

Hopefully with announcement of the season, that rules changes designed to speed up the game and add scoring are added.

Now you see,

THAT I WILL RACK!!

As much as it might appear that I'm a fan of Goodenow, I'm not.
I support the people that play the game, not the suits.

Smoked Meat · Post by **Smoked Meat** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:36 am

Captain Haddock wrote:..as Dany Heatley speeds towards the Moscow airport.

Blitzkrieg · Post by **Blitzkrieg** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:47 am

...blame Can-a-daaa, blame Can-a-daaa

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=115396&hubName=nhl

Plans have been in place for teams to play a 28-game regular season starting March 1 and there's still time for that to happen if both sides can reach a deal this weekend.

28 games? That's only slightly better than no games. I'd rather they cut the playoffs short.

Cross Traffic · Post by **Cross Traffic** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:01 am

You could get 35 games or so if the first round was eliminated and only 4 teams per conference made it...but the owners make their money during the playoffs so I know that would never fly.

Blitzkrieg · Post by **Blitzkrieg** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:24 am

Cross Traffic wrote:You could get 35 games or so if the first round was eliminated and only 4 teams per conference made it...but the owners make their money during the playoffs so I know that would never fly.

I was thinking more along the lines of 4, 5 game series. Also, go back to a game every other day no matter what.

The Anomaly · Post by **The Anomaly** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 2:22 pm

PLAYERS UNION BROKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eat that Otis Spunkboy!!!!!!!

I also heard Goodenow is on the way OUT!!!!!

Bettemen did exactly what he set out to do.....get a cap to assure COST certainty(somewhat).

And otis, your capitalism remark is funny. If you treat the NHL as 30 separate businesses your logic is fine, but then they should be able to merge and have takeovers as well teams going out of business equaling loss of jobs, etc. Your logic doesn't work for the benefit of the NHL. You must treat it as ONE business operating(like the NFL) therefore a CAP is a necessity. Does that make sense?

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 2:36 pm

Blitzkrieg wrote:
Cross Traffic wrote:You could get 35 games or so if the first round was eliminated and only 4 teams per conference made it...but the owners make their money during the playoffs so I know that would never fly.

I was thinking more along the lines of 4, 5 game series. Also, go back to a game every other day no matter what.

I don't think they should screw with the playoffs. I do find it odd that a team could play 28 games in the regular season and if they play all the way to the finals playing 7 games in each series...they'd play the same number in the playoffs. I'd like to see the season at 30 or more games. If they can get the playoffs going by the end of April, they should be okay. I'm fine with 28 games but I think they could squeeze a few more in.

This would make for a freaky season. If you go on a 5-game losing streak, you're virtually dead. If any of the scrub teams can get to a hot start, maybe they sneak in. I wonder what happens with some of the unrestricted free agents that are out there also...Palffy, Schneider, etc. Will teams be jumping on them right after they sign a deal and try to get them in the fold by opening night? I don't think we'll see guys like Kovalchuk and Datsyuk because them being unsigned RFAs that signed in Europe. A shortened season will be nice but some teams will be a mess with some of the free agents all over the globe.

godzilla2002 · Post by **godzilla2002** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:00 pm

28 games in the NHL is the equivalent of the NFL playing 6 games
I’m sure I’ll watch, but go ahead and etch JOKE on the Cup right now

Hapday · Post by **Hapday** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:04 pm

Otis wrote:$45 million cap agreed to according to the Hockey News.

http://www.thehockeynews.com/en/headlin ... 4945254360

Sorry Hap, looks like you lost this one

Not really. Have they signed the agreement, or is this yet another case of bored sportswriters?

Goodenow is no longer bargaining from a position of strength. Even if the NHL agrees to up the cap to $45 million (which they won't) you can bet the farm that linkage to revenues is back on the table.

Even if they come to an agreement in the next week, for the love of GOD cancel the season. There are waaaaaayyy to many fences to mend here, and a lot work needs to be done to re-package this league to fans.

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:39 pm

godzilla2002 wrote:28 games in the NHL is the equivalent of the NFL playing 6 games
I’m sure I’ll watch, but go ahead and etch JOKE on the Cup right now

44 or 42 games or whatever it was in '95 wasn't that much better. It'll still take 16 wins to win the Cup though. I'd much rather have this goofy season than not having it at all.

Fingers crossed that these guys can take care of business today...

Smoked Meat · Post by **Smoked Meat** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:17 pm

Of course, it would be nice that they can reach for an agreement but I hope the season remains cancelled. Like Hap said, there will be shitloads of work and marketing to be accomplishede to bring back the fans to the game. I'm not all convinced the playoffs card will be all enough.

Hapday · Post by **Hapday** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 8:59 pm

Looks like I'm right on this one:

On Saturday, league sources told TSN that the NHL may be prepared to make another offer to the players, but that it would contain only "cosmetic" changes to the $42.5 million dollar deal that was presented as a "final offer" to the players on Tuesday night.

fix · Post by **fix** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:17 pm

Hapday wrote:Looks like I'm right on this one:

On Saturday, league sources told TSN that the NHL may be prepared to make another offer to the players, but that it would contain only "cosmetic" changes to the $42.5 million dollar deal that was presented as a "final offer" to the players on Tuesday night.

Which would be why this is now being reported.

Meeting over, no progress.

Captain Haddock · Post by **Captain Haddock** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:54 am

Nice to see them dig up the corpse of the season for one more rape.

There's some shoddy reporting going on.

The Anomaly · Post by **The Anomaly** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 3:23 am

Otis wrote:
You were right and I was wrong.....again.

Surprise, surprise.

fix · Post by **fix** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 3:37 am

The Anomaly wrote:I'm nothing but a shit baiting troll without a clue.

:shocker:

The Anomaly · Post by **The Anomaly** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:27 am

I have asked you repeatedly to defend your position. And? You been worked all over this forum. Not just me, but everyone. You are a tard with no business sense. Probably a damn democrat as well.

Cross Traffic · Post by **Cross Traffic** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:44 am

Fuck ESPN and EJ Raddick for saying a deal was imminent.

T1B

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