Jeff Byers out for the whole season

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:04 pm

Carroll made that announcement recently. Also, Rocky Hinds and Eric Wright have been denied their release to UNLV.

This is a pretty big blow for the Oline, is it not?

Laxplayer · Post by **Laxplayer** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:10 pm

He was out most of last year too. Having Justice back will certainly help. I think they have more D-line problems than O-line.

Hey, K, what about that trade proposal I sent you?

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:05 pm

Byers was recruited as a center but played guard the second half of last year when he couldnt beat out Kalil. Justice will be back at tackle and will compete with Latui and Baker for the tackle positions. Matua will hold down one guard spot, the other will be up for grabs

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:19 pm

It's the East Coast Conspiracy - showing up early this year.

--Plaschke

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:40 pm

Laxplayer wrote:He was out most of last year too. Having Justice back will certainly help. I think they have more D-line problems than O-line.

Hey, K, what about that trade proposal I sent you?

He played for over half the season at guard. But you are right, dline is where they lost some players.

Yeah, I'm gonna hold on to him for about a week or two.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:55 pm

Byers is a Colorado kid, no?

why is Carroll denying releases to those kids? that's kind of tacky insn't it?

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:08 pm

King Crimson wrote:Byers is a Colorado kid, no?

why is Carroll denying releases to those kids? that's kind of tacky insn't it?

Yes, he's the kid from Colorado.

The rumor is that Carroll believes Hinds and Wright contacted UNLV before getting their release, which is an NCAA violation. They can appeal, but it sounds like this is more about making sure they (USC and the players) don't get into trouble than it is about fucking over the kids.

the_ouskull · Post by **the_ouskull** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:01 pm

What new graduation requirements? Are they gonna make Miami players learn to read now?

the_ouskull

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 5:13 am

Grad-rate stats-or-no if a kid wants to leave let him, unless you know some other school has been meddling of course. Then you gotta protect your house. When you have lots of blue-chippers(like a USC gets) you are going to have some ending up disappointed and wanting to leave. Plus if you make kids stay you open yourself up for major negative-recruiting attacks. IMO the grad-rates should be about what percent of kids who stay at your school for four or more years graduate, case closed, if they didn't stay they shouldn't count.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:33 pm

Believe the Heupel wrote:If it were up to me, I'd write the rule like this:

1. Players who transfer to another school are excluded.
2. Players who flunk out of school are excluded-I don't really figure there's much point in punishing schools for holding players to regular academic standards...
3. Players who transfer IN from JuCo will count with the class that entered three years before them (thus giving the JuCo three years to graduate.)
4. Players who are dismissed from the team for disciplinary matters are excluded-again, why punish a school for upholding a code of conduct?

Agree with 1 and 3, disagree with 2 and 4. W/r/t 2, you have to really fuck up to flunk out if you are a football player, at any school. If you flunk out, you didn't meet your end of the deal and the school should be held accountable. As for number 4, I could go either way with this one but I'm of the opinion that you (the coach) got a pretty good idea what type of guy you are recruiting and you are taking the risk by recruiting him.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 2:50 pm

I agree. If you say, "we kicked Johnny out of school because he raped a girl and he had a drug problem" the university in question is taking the right course of action and should not be punished. If this happened every year, the you might have to look into it.

Jimmy Medalions · Post by **Jimmy Medalions** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:42 am

Killian wrote:The rumor is that Carroll believes Hinds and Wright contacted UNLV before getting their release, which is an NCAA violation. They can appeal, but it sounds like this is more about making sure they (USC and the players) don't get into trouble than it is about fucking over the kids.

Medalions reporting...just in from vacation.

The Hinds and Wright denial has nothing to do with Pete Carroll. It's our vindictive/ass athletic director Mike Garrett who has a very ugly past with numerous universities, including UNLV.

Sucks much that Keith is out for the seaon, this is not the kind of news I wanted to get when I got back. :x