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Posted: **Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:44 pm**

Posted: **Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:25 pm**

Alas, Dave, we’re gonna lose all the great late ‘60s/early ‘70s musicians we grew up loving. Soon it’ll be every other day someone dies. Very sad. But we have to consider how lucky we are to have grown up during a period of such innovative music.

RIP, Mr. Robertson. An incredible era loses another great.

Posted: **Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:29 pm**

My grandparents thought the same thing about vaudeville and tin pan alley.

Posted: **Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:44 pm**

Sudden Sam wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:25 pm late ‘60s/early ‘70s musicians

He was playing lead guitar for Ronnie Hawkins in 1959 at age sixteen

Posted: **Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:33 pm**

Kierland wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:29 pm My grandparents thought the same thing about vaudeville and tin pan alley.

And in 50-60 yrs the same will be said of Taylor Swift, Ed Sheeran, Post Malone, et al. Of course, they’ll be wrong, as was the vaudeville generation. Ours is the only one that got it right.

Posted: **Wed Aug 09, 2023 11:09 pm**

Hurly-burly.

Posted: **Wed Aug 09, 2023 11:22 pm**

Sounds like he had a case of chest fever. Adios Robbie

Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:04 am**

Smackie Chan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:33 pm
Kierland wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:29 pm My grandparents thought the same thing about vaudeville and tin pan alley.
And in 50-60 yrs the same will be said of Taylor Swift, Ed Sheeran, Post Malone, et al. Of course, they’ll be wrong, as was the vaudeville generation. Ours is the only one that got it right.

Damn right!

Dr_Phibes wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:44 pm
Sudden Sam wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:25 pm late ‘60s/early ‘70s musicians
He was playing lead guitar for Ronnie Hawkins in 1959 at age sixteen

Yes. I’m talking The Band period. But you’re right in that a lot of these guys were doing session work (ex: Page) and playing in bands even earlier.

Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:53 am**

Yeah, tt will play free bird, but nothing from the 50th Anniversary of the release of Innervisions. I would have thought that was something to consider, but alas not so from the narrow lens that is the town.

Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:20 am**

He played “livin’ in the city” for SW’s BD last year. Might be too narrow for you but the album is represented from time to time.

Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:23 am**

BSmack wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 11:22 pm Sounds like he had a case of chest fever. Adios Robbie

What's chest fever?

Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:36 am**

Bill in Houston wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:53 am Yeah, tt will play free bird, but nothing from the 50th Anniversary of the release of Innervisions. I would have thought that was something to consider, but alas not so from the narrow lens that is the town.

I’m sure there are many milestones I’ve overlooked and a buncha crap that’s been played. And there’ll be more of both. To be expected with narrowness.

Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:44 am**

Bill in Houston wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:53 am Yeah, tt will play free bird, but nothing from the 50th Anniversary of the release of Innervisions. I would have thought that was something to consider, but alas not so from the narrow lens that is the town.

When did Smackie piss in your Wheaties?

Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:57 am**

Screw_Michigan wrote:What's chest fever?

A song by The Band off Music from Big Pink.

Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:27 am**

Shoulda added “, you pantload!”

Almost forgot what kind of board this is.

Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:49 am**

Smackie Chan wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:57 am
Screw_Michigan wrote:What's chest fever?
A song by The Band off Music from Big Pink.

Good live version on Rock of Ages too.

Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:48 am**

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:23 am
BSmack wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 11:22 pm Sounds like he had a case of chest fever. Adios Robbie
What's chest fever?

Air France probably didn’t cover it.

Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:10 pm**

Everything dies, baby that’s a fact

But maybe everything that dies
Someday comes back

RIP

Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:04 pm**

Can someone explain to me the appeal of the Band? They seem talented and unique artists. But I guess I don't understand them. Is their claim to fame that they were Bob Dylan's backing band for a while? Why did Scorsese become their #1 fan?

Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:07 pm**

He was their #2 fan because they were shit.

Sin,
The haters

Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:50 pm**

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:04 pm Can someone explain to me the appeal of the Band? They seem talented and unique artists. But I guess I don't understand them. Is their claim to fame that they were Bob Dylan's backing band for a while? Why did Scorsese become their #1 fan?

Since taste in music (and art and everything, really) is subjective, it’s tough to explain why someone should like something they don’t “get.” With me, for instance, a good example would be jazz. I appreciate the talent and skill of jazz musicians, but the music generally doesn’t move me or create the sense of pleasure it does in true fans. Could be that I’m just shallow or narrow, as some might argue. But to try to answer your question, give this a read.

Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:03 pm**

Smackie Chan wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:50 pm Since taste in music (and art and everything, really) is subjective, it’s tough to explain why someone should like something they don’t “get.” With me, for instance, a good example would be jazz. I appreciate the talent and skill of jazz musicians, but the music generally doesn’t move me or create the sense of pleasure it does in true fans. Could be that I’m just shallow or narrow, as some might argue. But to try to answer your question, give this a read.

Thanks. That link makes a lot of sense. I watched the Last Waltz when I was in college. Will have to watch it again.

Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:20 pm**

Smackie Chan wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:50 pm
Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:04 pm Can someone explain to me the appeal of the Band? They seem talented and unique artists. But I guess I don't understand them. Is their claim to fame that they were Bob Dylan's backing band for a while? Why did Scorsese become their #1 fan?
Since taste in music (and art and everything, really) is subjective, it’s tough to explain why someone should like something they don’t “get.” With me, for instance, a good example would be jazz. I appreciate the talent and skill of jazz musicians, but the music generally doesn’t move me or create the sense of pleasure it does in true fans. Could be that I’m just shallow or narrow, as some might argue. But to try to answer your question, give this a read.

As we have discussed before, you don’t mind sitting at a table with Nazis. Some people however don’t like propaganda. Your stance seems to be you can separate the art from its content so it’s not propaganda cause you don’t care about the content. Some people do. Some people don’t like glorifying traitors and some people hold that against The Band. Think of it this way, if someone attacked your family killed some and maimed others, how bangin’ would the tune have to be for you to like a song glorifying them?

But I guess they were great cause they knew how to tell time.

That one had me rolling.

Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:25 pm**

Sudden Sam wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:25 pm Alas, Dave, we’re gonna lose all the great late ‘60s/early ‘70s musicians we grew up loving. Soon it’ll be every other day someone dies.

Except Keith Richards of course.

Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:35 pm**

The Seer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:25 pm
Sudden Sam wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:25 pm Alas, Dave, we’re gonna lose all the great late ‘60s/early ‘70s musicians we grew up loving. Soon it’ll be every other day someone dies.

Except Keith Richards of course.

Of course!

Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:56 pm**

Kierland wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:20 pm As we have discussed before, you don’t mind sitting at a table with Nazis. Some people however don’t like propaganda. Your stance seems to be you can separate the art from its content so it’s not propaganda cause you don’t care about the content. Some people do. Some people don’t like glorifying traitors and some people hold that against The Band. Think of it this way, if someone attacked your family killed some and maimed others, how bangin’ would the tune have to be for you to like a song glorifying them?

But I guess they were great cause they knew how to tell time.
That one had me rolling.

Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:08 pm**

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:56 pm
Kierland wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:20 pm As we have discussed before, you don’t mind sitting at a table with Nazis. Some people however don’t like propaganda. Your stance seems to be you can separate the art from its content so it’s not propaganda cause you don’t care about the content. Some people do. Some people don’t like glorifying traitors and some people hold that against The Band. Think of it this way, if someone attacked your family killed some and maimed others, how bangin’ would the tune have to be for you to like a song glorifying them?

But I guess they were great cause they knew how to tell time.
That one had me rolling.

Just more self indulgent narcissism. Everything is a nazi, including The Band. Like he knows shit.

Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:40 pm**

I didn’t say that. I said they glorified traitors. The Nazi sentence was about an earlier conversation which is why it’s framed that way.

Conversing with you is like explaining English to Cheese.

Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:55 pm**

Why was The Band traitors?

Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:32 pm**

Et tu? I did not say that. I said they glorified them.
This link will give you an idea of the controversy. While it’s from the side of someone more akin to Smackie point of view (I think) it will go over all the criticisms I hold.

https://slate.com/culture/2020/08/night ... erate.html

And if you don’t know about the blues of Pharaoh read up a bit on that to get the idea. Or ask poptart.

Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:33 pm**

Smackie Chan wrote:
Kierland wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:29 pm My grandparents thought the same thing about vaudeville and tin pan alley.
And in 50-60 yrs the same will be said of Taylor Swift, Ed Sheeran, Post Malone, et al. Of course, they’ll be wrong, as was the vaudeville generation. Ours is the only one that got it right.

So, when did what we now call “classic rock” die?

If I had to pick a single event, I’d say it was John Bonham’s fondness of screwdrivers. You could make an argument for the Lynryd Skynrd plane crash as well, I guess.

The end of LZ left hard rock in the hands of 80s Big Hair Metal.

They were not a worthy successor.

The 80s did have a few good bands. SRV and DT, Metallica, G’n’R and a few others, but nothing like what we had in the 60-70s

And then a decade later, SRV’s decision to go for a helo ride was the last nail in the coffin.

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Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:35 pm**

Make up your mind you fuckin’ dolt. Was it JB or SRV?

Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:42 pm**

You don’t read to gud.

I said LZ’s demise was pretty much the end of CR, but that the 80s had a few bright spots.

SRV’s death was kind of like dancing on CR’s 10 year old grave.

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Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:45 pm**

Again make up your mind. Was it dead 10 years on from JB or not? I read fine you waffling twat.

Posted: **Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:46 pm**

And I’d like to echo SC’s take on what makes music great. We have very similar takes including not getting some jazz, although I suspect I might get a little more of it than he.

This is especially true of newer jazz.

I would also like to throw Steve Vai into the category of highly talented, but not my cup of tea.

Sorry Van, wherever you are!!

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Posted: **Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:35 am**

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:03 pm . I watched the Last Waltz when I was in college. Will have to watch it again.

Don't bother, it'll be twice as shitty the second time.

Very talented group of youngsters and musicians who all apprenticed under Ronnie Hawkins, went out on their own and had the misfortune to exist and adapt to their own horrifying, contemporary time and style of music.
Had they come of age in the 80's, oldies record stations would still torture us with their clean, professionally done, synth-based soul-records.

Posted: **Sat Aug 12, 2023 2:55 am**

smackaholic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:46 pm And I’d like to echo SC’s take on what makes music great. We have very similar takes including not getting some jazz, although I suspect I might get a little more of it than he.

This is especially true of newer jazz.

I would also like to throw Steve Vai into the category of highly talented, but not my cup of tea.

Sorry Van, wherever you are!!

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WTF is “newer jazz”?

Posted: **Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:24 am**

The end of classic rock was when bands wrote ballads, not because they had something to say, but because the labels were looking for that next hit. I’d say by 1983.

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