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Re: Ummmm

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:04 pm
by Left Seater
There is not nearly enough data to draw conclusions here.

Are the vaxed “getting” omicron because they are more willing to travel? Or interact with others? Or are they more likely to get tested?

Give it time before you draw large conclusions.


What is clear is the messaging on shots needs to change. We were told and continue to be told that the shots would put an end to the pandemic. We know that is false. We do know that the shots tend to reduce symptoms and severity of illness. The shots also tend to lower your risk of dying.

But continued false narratives from the CDC and Biden and others undermines their credibility and gives people a reason to avoid the shots altogether. Change the narrative now.

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 3:15 pm
by Kierland
We were told if everyone took the shot we would be ok, but all you right wing death cultists refused which fucked everything up. Even those that took it like fatmelt and dumaholic spew misinformation as are you.

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 3:27 pm
by BSmack
The messaging is fucked. Has been since March 13, 2020. When masks were useful, politicians railed against against them, now masks are effectively useless for vaccinated people save those with immune system issues. And we have politicians from the other side insisting on masking.

As far as I am concerned, if you won’t get vaccinated, go ahead and be maskless. Does not fucking bother me. I’m protected you’re not. As Aaron Burr once said, “You spit, I’ll sit, we’ll see where we land.” As for me I like my chances. We’ll see how well the stubborn fare.


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Re: Ummmm

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:14 am
by Kierland
You are, once again, lying.

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:58 pm
by Derron57
BSmack wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 3:27 pm When masks were useful, now masks are effectively useless
What changed ?

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:04 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Derron57 wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:58 pm What changed ?
They went away with the warm weather. Like a miracle!

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:37 pm
by Kierland
schmick wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:12 pm I'm tested twice a week
I dont have one of those fauxines but regularly test with more antibodies, than those I work with who have a fauxine, from having the virus 6 months ago.
Papa Willie wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:04 am
Prove it, nigglette.

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:26 pm
by smackaholic
Here’s what we do know.

Africa has dealt with the moronic variation enough to know that it extremely contagious and extremely bad at killing anyone.

This pretty well follows the vaccine playbook that says vaccine variations have a tendency to lose their fast ball. They kill folks early, then sputter out.

The Spanish flu put up career numbers it’s rookie season, then faded away. CV will do the same. In fact it likely would have been in the rear view mirror already had we stopped flattening the fukk out of the curve. Does anyone remember back when this started and they said that was what would happen?


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Re: Ummmm

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:45 pm
by Kierland
Never underestimate the retardedness of the retard faction of the planet. New studies show that red and Christian are the two most dangerous things for your health rn.

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:01 pm
by Screw_Michigan
You're 3x more likely to die of Covid 19 if you live in a county carried by Dump. An amazing, apocalyptical statistic.

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:03 pm
by Kierland
Did your FB mom group tell you that?

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:00 am
by Derron57
Screw_Michigan wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:01 pm You're 3x more likely to die of Covid 19 if you live in a county carried by Dump. An amazing, apocalyptical statistic.
Link ?

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:02 am
by Screw_Michigan

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:13 am
by Diego in Seattle
Papa Willie wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:28 am
Screw_Michigan wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:01 pm You're 3x more likely to die of Covid 19 if you live in a county carried by Dump. An amazing, apocalyptical statistic.
You're 5 1/2 times more likely to suck a dick if you vote for Democrats.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2 ... atic-bloc/
Did the Log Cabin Democrats tell you that?

Oh wait....

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 6:29 am
by Diego in Seattle
schmick wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:07 am NPR said that jussie smollet was attacked by white Trump supporters who poured bleach on him and tried to hang him..
Everything they say is lies
Whataboutism.

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 1:59 pm
by Screw_Michigan
schmick wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 7:04 am You're too fucking stupid to even know what whataboutism is.

That wasn't whataboutism. That was proof that npr is a failure as a news source and you will need to provide a non biased and accurate news source backing up your claim instead of some propagandesque pile of dog shit.that npr is
Schmick hates the truth. Nobody said you had to like it.

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:07 pm
by Left Seater
Screw_Michigan wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 1:59 pm
Schmick hates the truth. Nobody said you had to like it.
That’s pretty rich coming from you.

While NPR certainly has its biases, they don’t really deserve a huge pile on here. They just reported the lies being fed to them by Juicy. Lies they and liberals were all to ready to take at face value without any sort of questioning. Lies Biden, Harris, Michelle Obama and others still have tweets or statements up in support of.

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:59 pm
by Derron57
Screw_Michigan wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:02 am
Derron57 wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:00 am Link ?
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... death-rate
NPR...... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:29 pm
by Kierland
Left Seater wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:07 pm
Screw_Michigan wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 1:59 pm
Schmick hates the truth. Nobody said you had to like it.
That’s pretty rich coming from you.

While NPR certainly has its biases, they don’t really deserve a huge pile on here. They just reported the lies being fed to them by Juicy. Lies they and liberals were all to ready to take at face value without any sort of questioning. Lies Biden, Harris, Michelle Obama and others still have tweets or statements up in support of.
As long as you are doing Whataboutism, what about you trying to overthrow the government? How important a topic is that?

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 8:19 pm
by Kierland
In other news: red Christian and dead all seem to go together these days.

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 8:39 pm
by smackaholic
Screw_Michigan wrote:You're 3x more likely to die of Covid 19 if you live in a county carried by Dump. An amazing, apocalyptical statistic.
Imagine that, counties with lots of blue hairs had higher rates.


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Re: Ummmm

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:10 pm
by Kierland
^March of the death cult.

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:57 pm
by Screw_Michigan
schmick wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:33 pm the fauxine failed to prevent them from being infected by.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 2:48 am
by Screw_Michigan
Jsc810 wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:43 am You do realize that people who have been vaccinated have a lower covid rate and a lower covid death rate as compared to those who have not been vaccinated, don't you?
He doesn't care. It's a #deathcult

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:20 am
by Softball Bat
Jsc810 wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:43 amYou do realize that people who have been vaccinated have a lower covid rate and a lower covid death rate as compared to those who have not been vaccinated, don't you?
3/31/21

Our data from the CDC today suggest that vaccinated people do not carry the virus.

- CDC Director Walensky

https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1 ... 675%2Fpg16



5/16/21

The vaccinated become "dead ends" for the virus

- A. Felchi

https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-tal ... oronavirus




The vaccinates were sold to the folks on false premises.

They have juiced up over 80% of the people here in S. Korea (supposedly) and yet cases and deaths are rising exponentially.
It is bat shit out of control since they shot everyone up.

Wtf?



Boosters?

lol

Unreal.

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:39 am
by Softball Bat
Jsc810 wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:33 amPoptart, all of that may be true, but even if it is, that still doesn't refute this basic fact:

people who have been vaccinated have a lower covid rate and a lower covid death rate as compared to those who have not been vaccinated.

The vaccines save lives. Get vaccinated, and your life can be saved as well.
The folks here are told now that they should get a -----> booster <----- 3 to 4 months after becoming -----> fully vaccinated.

Fascinating.


Did you get a booster yet?

If so, why?

If so, what is the booster?

How many will you be getting?

How will you know when you need to stop getting them?

Or is there no end?

Like, twice (or more) a year for the rest of your life you need to be injected.






Re: Ummmm

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:22 pm
by Mikey
I get flu shot every year. Haven’t had the flu in at least 20 years. Covid may end up as a similar deal. So what?

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:33 pm
by Softball Bat
A lot of people choose to take a flu shot once a year, yes.

poptart wrote:The folks here are told now that they should get a -----> booster <----- 3 to 4 months after becoming -----> fully vaccinated.
What is fully vaccinated supposed to mean?

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:54 pm
by Left Seater
Mikey wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:22 pm I get flu shot every year. Haven’t had the flu in at least 20 years. Covid may end up as a similar deal. So what?
I have gotten 2 flu shots in the last 20 years and haven’t had the flu. The two times I did were work requirements and I felt like crap for a few days after.

Flu shots aren’t the end all.

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:05 pm
by Left Seater
Jsc810 wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:39 am
schmick wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:30 amYou realize that if there was a vaccine for covid then people who had been given it would not get infected with covid.
That simply is not true, and is not how vaccines work.

For example, you can still get the measles even after receiving the measles vaccine.
While this is correct Jsc, this is not the message that was told by the CDC or Fauci. They led everyone to believe that the shots would stop Covid in its tracks. No one was discussing breakthrough infections until those started happening in large numbers. Then suddenly the messages changed. Now we are being told multiple shots or more a year might be necessary.

Fauci needs to go today for the greater good. Then real honest messaging needs to be shared immediately.

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:10 pm
by Softball Bat
Yep.
They were, and are, full of shit.



"There are weapons of mass destruction there. Yes. You better believe it! We need actions to remedy this situation!"




err...

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:24 pm
by Diego in Seattle
Left Seater wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:05 pm
Jsc810 wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:39 am
schmick wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:30 amYou realize that if there was a vaccine for covid then people who had been given it would not get infected with covid.
That simply is not true, and is not how vaccines work.

For example, you can still get the measles even after receiving the measles vaccine.
While this is correct Jsc, this is not the message that was told by the CDC or Fauci. They led everyone to believe that the shots would stop Covid in its tracks. No one was discussing breakthrough infections until those started happening in large numbers. Then suddenly the messages changed. Now we are being told multiple shots or more a year might be necessary.

Fauci needs to go today for the greater good. Then real honest messaging needs to be shared immediately.
From the beginning the CDC & Fauci said that the vaccine's mission was to make infections more survivable, not immune to them. Anyone with a scintilla of reading comprehension would have caught that.

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 2:00 pm
by Left Seater
Wrong. Why do you continue to lie to yourself and or make shit up? Google easily proves you to be an idiot in thousandths of a second.

Fauci said, that even if the vaccines don’t prevent infection, they keep virus levels so low that they do prevent transmission.

Serious question. Do you lie to yourself like this in every facet of your life? Or does signing in here somehow make you a short bus rider?

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 2:14 pm
by Softball Bat
Diego...



3/31/21

Our data from the CDC today suggest that vaccinated people do not carry the virus.

- CDC Director Walensky

https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1 ... 675%2Fpg16



5/16/21

The vaccinated become "dead ends" for the virus

- A. Felchi

https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-tal ... oronavirus

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:13 pm
by Derron57
Here is a great interview with a medical doctor. He lays it out pretty well. Now of course most of the shit slinging monkeys on here will immediately slap their foreheads and shout from the upper tree branches " Oh my fucking god, this guy is a quack, he is on Joe Rogans show. "


Of course, on the radio yesterday I heard at least 3 advertisements for the Pfizer " vaccine". Why do business's advertise a product ? To get people to buy it of course.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0aZte37vtFTkYT7b0b04Qz

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:29 pm
by Kierland
Says the simp who was just bitching about someone else’s news sources.

Go ahead Methhead man, lay it out for us. What is your understanding of what dude said?

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:31 pm
by Kierland
Left Seater wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 2:00 pm Wrong. Why do you continue to lie to yourself and or make shit up? Google easily proves you to be an idiot in thousandths of a second.

Fauci said, that even if the vaccines don’t prevent infection, they keep virus levels so low that they do prevent transmission.

Serious question. Do you lie to yourself like this in every facet of your life? Or does signing in here somehow make you a short bus rider?
Do you even know how to speak English? It’s a serious question because you have no idea how words word. Except maybe “I don’t give candy to brown kids on Halloween”

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:47 pm
by Left Seater
Jsc810 wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:33 pm
What is important is staying alive and avoiding covid if at all possible.

And your best chance of doing that is by getting vaccinated.
Please define vaccinated. Is that two shots? Is that two shots and a booster shot? Is it a booster shot every 6 months?

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:59 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Left Seater wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:47 pm Please define vaccinated. Is that two shots? Is that two shots and a booster shot? Is it a booster shot every 6 months?
Don't be pedantic. Depending on when you got your first two shots, you are vaccinated. If you got them last May and have not been boosted, you are partially vaccinated. If you got your two shots in May and you just got boosted, you are fully vaccinated. And yes, that might be a booster shot every six months.

Doesn't take a Rice grad to figure this out, unless you're being intentionally obtuse.

Re: Ummmm

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:01 pm
by Left Seater
Screw_Michigan wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:59 pm
Left Seater wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:47 pm Please define vaccinated. Is that two shots? Is that two shots and a booster shot? Is it a booster shot every 6 months?
Don't be pedantic. Depending on when you got your first two shots, you are vaccinated. If you got them last May and have not been boosted, you are partially vaccinated. If you got your two shots in May and you just got boosted, you are fully vaccinated. And yes, that might be a booster shot every six months.
Link? Is this the CDC guidance? Where does recovery from Covid play in here?