Internal FAA Review Saw High Risk of 737 MAX Crashes
House committee hearing focuses on FAA and Boeing moves between the tragedies
U.S. regulators decided to allow Boeing Co. BA -0.37% ’s 737 MAX jet to keep flying after its first fatal crash last fall even after their own analysis indicated it could become one of the most accident-prone airliners in decades without design changes.
The November 2018 internal Federal Aviation Administration analysis, released during a House committee hearing Wednesday, reveals that without agency intervention, the MAX could have averaged one fatal crash about every two or three years. That amounts to a substantially greater safety risk than either Boeing or the agency indicated publicly at the time.
The assessment, which came the month after a Lion Air crash in Indonesia, raises new questions about the FAA’s decision-making in the wake of that disaster, along with what turned out to be faulty agency assumptions on ways to alleviate hazards.
In the wake of the analysis, the FAA took steps to put short-term and permanent measures in place to combat hazards, but Wednesday’s hearing started off with challenges to some of those decisions.
“Despite its own calculations, the FAA rolled the dice on the safety of the traveling public and let the 737 MAX continue to fly,“ said Rep. Peter DeFazio (D., Ore.), chairman of the House Transportation Committee.
The FAA’s intervention proved inadequate after a second fatal MAX crash, in Ethiopia in March, led to the global grounding of the fleet and sparked an international controversy over the agency’s safety oversight.
Re: Left Shitter: I'd keep flying the Boeing 737 Max
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:52 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
"Profits before people."
Sincerely, Left OnePercent
Re: Left Shitter: I'd keep flying the Boeing 737 Max
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:43 pm
by EAP
I fondly remember the "whisper jet, Boeing's 727.
And the wide body, Lockheed's L -1011
IN THOSE DAYS, You'd get a iceburg wedge with Roquefort dressing. A thick juicy filet mignon. A martini shaken with a stuffed olive.
A baked Alaska for dessert.
Followed by a cuban cigar and a king Louis XIII cognac.
The stewardesses were gorgeous back then. They all looked like the girls Bob Barker fucked on the "price is right".
This was "first class". Hj's and bj's were very very common.
That's what we mean by MAGA.
Re: Left Shitter: I'd keep flying the Boeing 737 Max
Don't go so over the top bullshit and you might find someone to believe you. So you flew coach a few times to attend custodian management school. Smoking in the rear section only and they did serve food, you pick fried fish, tofu weenies, or "steak."
please, nig_er.
Don't project your sorry ass 2nd class life on a sophisticated NYC guy like me.
You probably took a city bus with the HIV crowd.
While I was enjoying the "mile high club" you were blowing dirty immigrant Hoover cock.
Re: Left Shitter: I'd keep flying the Boeing 737 Max
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:13 am
by Derron
Sounds like this one is on the FAA and not Boeing. Your beloved government hacks fucked up then, not Boeing.
Re: Left Shitter: I'd keep flying the Boeing 737 Max
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:17 am
by Left Seater
So why didn’t this horrible dangerous jet, lawn dart when flown thousands of times by American Airlines, Southwest Airlines or United Airlines?
Why was it only when unqualified or poorly trained pilots were in the cockpit was there an issue? Would a 250 hour pilot have an issue with an Airbus A320? Would you step foot on a commercial jet knowing your pilot had 250 hours of experience?
Further where was your call for the grounding of the MD-80 and the jack screw issues? Where was your call for the grounding of the early model 737s and their rudder issues? Where was your call for grounding the A320 family of jets when their systems overrode pilot input?
Exactly.
Re: Left Shitter: I'd keep flying the Boeing 737 Max
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:21 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
exonerate big business
blame poor people and workers
money is the real engine of progress
sneer at the homeless
sincerely, Left Doesn'tSeeTheJacobinsMarching
Re: Left Shitter: I'd keep flying the Boeing 737 Max
Left Seater wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:17 am
Where was your call for grounding the A320 family of jets when their systems overrode pilot input?
I thought that was the 330? Regardless - enjoying your dismantling of Screwdy. :)
Seater has no problem dismantling a hamburger wrapper.
Re: Left Shitter: I'd keep flying the Boeing 737 Max
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:28 am
by Left Seater
Here is the A320 crashing at the Paris Airshow. It wouldn’t allow the pilot to override the landing mode and when they applied power the plane overrode their inputs and kept trying to land until the contact with the trees caused the loss of the airframe and some of the passengers their lives.
Re: Left Shitter: I'd keep flying the Boeing 737 Max
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:41 am
by Left Seater
Yeah that was pilot error. Yes the pitot tubes iced up, but the two guys flying the plane stalled it with the engines making full power.
Sadly most crashes have some sort of pilot error. The 737Max especially.
Re: Left Shitter: I'd keep flying the Boeing 737 Max
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:39 am
by Kierland
Left Seater wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:17 am
So why didn’t this horrible dangerous jet, lawn dart when flown thousands of times by American Airlines, Southwest Airlines or United Airlines?
Why was it only when unqualified or poorly trained pilots were in the cockpit was there an issue? Would a 250 hour pilot have an issue with an Airbus A320? Would you step foot on a commercial jet knowing your pilot had 250 hours of experience?
Further where was your call for the grounding of the MD-80 and the jack screw issues? Where was your call for the grounding of the early model 737s and their rudder issues? Where was your call for grounding the A320 family of jets when their systems overrode pilot input?
Exactly.
Aged like milk.
Re: Left Shitter: I'd keep flying the Boeing 737 Max
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 3:44 am
by Screw_Michigan
Kierland wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:39 am
Aged like milk.
I do know what I am talking about.
Re: Left Shitter: I'd keep flying the Boeing 737 Max
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:29 am
by Left Seater
Sure, when it comes to mopping jizz. Not about much else.
The Max got lawn darted by inexperience pilots and those who couldn’t hand fly the machine when the computer was screwed up.
Yes Boeing made plenty of errors, but at the end of the day pilots should be able to actually use the stick and rudder to fly a plane.
Re: Left Shitter: I'd keep flying the Boeing 737 Max
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:47 pm
by Kierland
The people who make the plane: our bad
Fattt and Fattter: it’s the pilots fault
Re: Left Shitter: I'd keep flying the Boeing 737 Max