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Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:20 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Fuck every single one of you

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/02/worl ... &smtyp=cur
Nigerian Army Uses Trump’s Words to Justify Fatal Shooting of Rock-Throwing Protesters

Members of the Islamic Movement of Nigeria preparing the bodies of members killed when the Nigerian Army opened fire during the group’s protests in the capital Abuja this week

By Dionne Searcey and Emmanuel Akinwotu
Nov. 2, 2018


DAKAR, Senegal — The Nigerian Army, part of a military criticized for rampant human rights abuses, on Friday used the words of President Trump to justify its fatal shootings of rock-throwing protesters.

Soldiers opened fire this past Monday on a march of about 1,000 Islamic Shia activists who had been blocking traffic in the capital, Abuja. Videos circulated on social media showed several protesters hurling rocks at the heavily armed soldiers who then shot fleeing protesters in the back.

The Nigerian military said three protesters were killed but the toll appears to have been much higher.

Amnesty International as well as leaders of the protest said more than 40 people were killed at the march and two other smaller marches, with more than 100 wounded by bullets. A Reuters reporter counted 20 bodies at the main march.

Human rights activists and many ordinary citizens were outraged at the military’s response, which echoed a similar confrontation in 2015, when soldiers killed nearly 350 protesters from the same group, the Islamic Movement of Nigeria, the largest and most recognizable face of Shia Islam in the country. The group organizes frequent protest marches.

Early Friday morning, the military responded to the criticism.

The Army’s official Twitter account posted a video, “Please Watch and Make Your Deductions,” showing Mr. Trump’s anti-migrant speech on Thursday in which he said rocks would be considered firearms if thrown toward the American military at the nation’s borders.

— Nigerian Army (@HQNigerianArmy) November 2, 2018
“We’re not going to put up with that,” Mr. Trump said in the clip. “They want to throw rocks at our military, our military fights back.”

In Nigeria, Mr. Trump is a popular figure among many people who praise what they regard as his straightforwardness and frank talk despite his reported insult to the nation last year when he said Nigerians in the United States would never “go back to their huts” in Africa.

Mr. Trump also referred to unspecified African countries as “shithole countries.”

Earlier this year after a meeting with President Muhammadu Buhari of Nigeria, during which Mr. Trump praised the Nigerian leader’s fight against the Islamic State in West Africa, he said he never again wanted to meet someone so lifeless as Mr. Buhari, the Financial Times reported.

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:30 pm
by Sirfindafold
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll

Friday, November 02, 2018

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 51% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance......

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:45 pm
by Mikey
The FiveThirtyEight compilation of multiple polls show 52.8% disapprove and 43.5% approve.

So what's your point? That you can Google Rasmussen any time you want?

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/tr ... gs/voters/

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:45 pm
by Sirfindafold
My point? Even though his approval rating is much higher than Obama's at this point in his Presidency, why isn't it much higher with all positive press he receives. :meds:

go fuck yourself.

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:49 pm
by Left Seater
It proves that polls aren’t good for much and that they are easily influenced by the bias of the pollsters.

In actual news wages are going up and unemployment (flawed number, but useful for comparison purposes) remains at near historic lows. As Liberals and Democrats have said before, “It’s the economy, stupid.” Or is that only valid when Libs want it to be valid?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bloomb ... ns-hit-3-1

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:59 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Nigeria uses Trump speech to justify murdering rock throwers.

Sirfuckafist responds with poll numbers.

Keep up the good work, asswipes.

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:01 pm
by Mikey
Gee, and I thought that liberals were more interested in allowing armies of heavily armed illegal aliens to storm our borders and take our jobs; letting swarthy middle eastern terrorists destroy our cities; forcing evangelical bakers to make cakes for evil gay weddings; and aborting all good White Christian babies.

What a relief. If it's just about the economy, stupid, I can switch to the Republican Party with a clear conscience.

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:05 pm
by Left Seater
Screw_Michigan wrote:Nigeria uses Trump speech to justify murdering rock throwers.

Typical jizz mopping here. The murders happened on Monday. Trump makes a comment on Thursday. Lib idiots want to twist it to make it sound like the dates were reversed.

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:08 pm
by Sirfindafold
:lol:

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:13 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Nigeria should just change it's name to "South Israel"...then they can murder all the unarmed protesters they want.

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:25 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Left Seater wrote: Typical jizz mopping here. The murders happened on Monday. Trump makes a comment on Thursday. Lib idiots want to twist it to make it sound like the dates were reversed.
The dates are irrelevant. Nigeria used the video to justify the murders.

You're both a Rice grad AND a pilot. How are you so stupid?

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:37 pm
by Left Seater
so third world shithole went third world sithole. People use statements to justify their actions all the time, that doesn’t make murder any less of a crime.

But hey these third world murderers have company. Remember when Hillary said the embassy was attacked because of something about Muslims on the internet? She was an idiot for saying that just as the third world shithole is wrong for their actions.

But by all means keep making everything about Trump.

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:02 am
by Softball Bat
The point here is that Don's rhetoric and behavior is completely irresponsible, inappropriate, and frankly, off the wall.

Why is the U.S. President talking about sending 15,000 troops to the border -- and putting out the word that they might be ordered to shoot at rock-throwers?


Wtf kind of ridiculous bullshit is this?

Good grief.


Unreal.

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:15 am
by Truman
Screw_America wrote:
Left Seater wrote: Typical jizz mopping here. The murders happened on Monday. Trump makes a comment on Thursday. Lib idiots want to twist it to make it sound like the dates were reversed.
The dates are irrelevant. Nigeria used the video to justify the murders.
And Obama used a video to justify the death of Chris Stevens. Your thread is irrelevant.

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:19 am
by Softball Bat
schmick wrote:So you would rather our forces not defend themselves vs an invasion force attacking with deadly weapons?
I would rather you not post idiotic things.

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:40 am
by smackaholic
Is there ANYTHING you won't blame Trump for?

As for what he said, I would have went further. I would say that this caravan has proven itself a hostile force. When it gets to the border, it will be treated as such. I would not wait for them to throw rocks. I would instruct them to warn the caravan to stop. When they continue to move forward, lay down a little warning fire. When that doesn't stop them, light them up with a little 50 cal action. Yeah, 50 cal is a wee bit of overkill but fuggem. Wouldn't need to shoot many before they would comprende.

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:01 am
by Softball Bat
The caravan fires no shot -- and yet you order our troops to shoot (kill?) first.



Serious question.

What's wrong with you?

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:00 am
by Derron
Screw_Michigan wrote:
The dates are irrelevant. Nigeria used the video to justify the murders.
Well played there. Don't let an accuracy thing like the dates stop you from using it as a shit slinging tool. Just like the YouTube video caused the Bengahzi fiasco. Complete bullshit from you as usual.

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:02 am
by Derron
Softball Bat wrote: I would rather you not post idiotic things.
Every now and then you actually post something you know about. If anybody could flesh out an idiotic post it is you. (Fuck off Mikey.)

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:30 am
by Mikey
Derron wrote:If anybody could flesh out an idiotic post is you.
Well played there.

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:47 am
by Derron
Mikey wrote:
Derron wrote:If anybody could flesh out an idiotic post is you.
Well played there.
Oh my bad. A word left out. When you have no take, go to the spelling smack card.

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 5:03 am
by Screw_Michigan
smackaholic wrote:Is there ANYTHING you won't blame Trump for?

As for what he said, I would have went further. I would say that this caravan has proven itself a hostile force. When it gets to the border, it will be treated as such. I would not wait for them to throw rocks. I would instruct them to warn the caravan to stop. When they continue to move forward, lay down a little warning fire. When that doesn't stop them, light them up with a little 50 cal action. Yeah, 50 cal is a wee bit of overkill but fuggem. Wouldn't need to shoot many before they would comprende.
They're 1000 miles from the border, snowflake

Suckaholic has the border vapors

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:19 am
by Softball Bat
Why would you post something that asinine?


1. 15,000 U.S. troops to the border to deal with this... invading enemy.

2. Rocks should be seen as the same as rifles.


Do you somehow agree with 1 and 2?


It is stunning how willing some are to bend over backwards and rationalize that complete LUNACY of this current asshole in the WH.

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:46 am
by Softball Bat
There are multiple ways our troops could deal with rocks being thrown at them without resorting to blowing people away.

lol





Get a grip, dude.

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:56 am
by Kierland
Snowflakes with guns and badges has always been a bad combination.

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:03 pm
by smackaholic
Softball Bat wrote:There are multiple ways our troops could deal with rocks being thrown at them without resorting to blowing people away.

lol





Get a grip, dude.
As I said, you start with warning shot. I suspect that would send them fleeing. Problem solved.

If they continue forward in large numbers what would you do? Wrestle with them?

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:17 pm
by Softball Bat
Yesterday Don backed down from his blatantly asinine take (which some in here were so foolishly eager to rationalize).


They were throwing rocks in their face. They do that with us, they're going to be arrested. There's going to be a problem. I didn't say shoot," he said. "They do that with us they're going to be arrested for a very long time.

- Don

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/02/poli ... index.html




Wow, they are going to be arrested.
And arrested... for a very long time.
lol

Sounds sort of like double secret probation.


So yeah, I guess this huge gang of dangerous brown thugs won't be that difficult to deal with, seeing as you're just going to arrest some of the bad apples.

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:10 pm
by Mikey
Little schmickie and smakie both have the mental acuity of five year olds playing with army men. Just about one year less than big brother Donnie who never has a bad idea even though he always gets them into trouble and weasels out of it by claiming it wasn’t really his idea in the first place.

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:12 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Softball Bat wrote:Yesterday Don backed down from his blatantly asinine take (which some in here were so foolishly eager to rationalize).
It is amazing how much these dipshits will contort themselves to back the president's absurd opinions. Like all Trump supporters, they have zero integrity.

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:49 pm
by Left Seater
Once you move past the circle jerk, the irony is amazing.

Softball Bat wrote:blatantly asinine take
Screw_Michigan wrote:have zero integrity.

Both just described themselves perfectly. :lol:

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:03 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Opposing this president and his hateful, racist policies is the definition of integrity, moron.

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:10 pm
by Left Seater
So upholding our nations borders and laws is hateful and racist?

You really are delusional. But hey keep telling yourself you are the morality police.

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:12 pm
by Kierland
Left Seater wrote:Once you move past the circle jerk, the irony is amazing.

Softball Bat wrote:blatantly asinine take
Screw_Michigan wrote:have zero integrity.

Both just described themselves perfectly. :lol:
Nice IKYABWAI.

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:14 pm
by Kierland
Left Seater wrote:So upholding our nations borders and laws is hateful and racist?

You really are delusional. But hey keep telling yourself you are the morality police.
Well which side of Don the Con’s mouth do you believe? Shoot them or arrest them for a long time?

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:14 pm
by Smackie Chan
Left Seater wrote:The murders happened on Monday. Trump makes a comment on Thursday. Lib idiots want to twist it to make it sound like the dates were reversed.
So in reality, Trump co-opted the Nigerians' words to defend his actions? Shameless ploy to get out the balck vote for the midterms.

Do I need to add the sarcasm tag?

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:16 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Left Seater wrote:So upholding our nations borders and laws is hateful and racist?
You can "uphold our nations borders and laws" without pulling stunts like putting 15,000 soldiers on the border and giving public pronouncements to shoot to kill. I know the synapses in your brain don't fire as fast as they should, but try to keep up.

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:17 pm
by Mikey
So sending 15,000 troops to the border to shoot at unarmed people who have yet to break any of our laws is a reasonable way to “uphold our borders and laws?”

Duly noted. And here I thought you were all against government overreach and wasteful spending.

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:21 pm
by Mikey
Kierland wrote:
Left Seater wrote:Once you move past the circle jerk, the irony is amazing.

Softball Bat wrote:blatantly asinine take
Screw_Michigan wrote:have zero integrity.

Both just described themselves perfectly. :lol:
Nice IKYABWAI.
Actually a double IKYABWAI.

Impressive.

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:28 pm
by Kierland
Mikey wrote:So sending 15,000 troops to the border to shoot at unarmed people who have yet to break any of our laws is a reasonable way to “uphold our borders and laws?”

Duly noted. And here I thought you were all against government overreach and wasteful spending.
It’s impossible to waste money on the defense department according to these idiots.

Re: Trump's words don't matter

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:19 pm
by smackaholic
Kierland wrote:
Mikey wrote:So sending 15,000 troops to the border to shoot at unarmed people who have yet to break any of our laws is a reasonable way to “uphold our borders and laws?”

Duly noted. And here I thought you were all against government overreach and wasteful spending.
It’s impossible to waste money on the defense department according to these idiots.
That is not so.

There is plenty of DoD wasteful spending. I have taken part in it myself. And it should be prevented when possible.

That being said, defense of our borders is pretty much THE most important federal duty there is. 99% of the rest should be handled at the state or local level. Including magic shade tree subsidies.