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Washington Redskins

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:31 am
by War Wagon
I can't believe the ongoing fuss about this. I guess some people have nothing better to do than find things to be PC and/or offended about.

What a crock of shit.

Never mind the "tradition" of the team nic, that's not what it's really about. Why would any sane person decide to name their team after a derogatory term? That's right, they would not. Rather than being offensive, it should be taken as a term of endearment, of honor, towards native Americans.

Rack Dan Snyder for sticking to his guns and fuck all the hand wringers.

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:24 am
by smackaholic
the only part of this that pisses me off is the government just making shit up about trademark law. I am fairly sure the skins will win that one in court.

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:44 am
by poptart
The only people offended by Redskins are people who would throw a party if an expansion team came along and called it's self the Los Angeles Butt Plugs.

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:46 am
by Y2K
The next WNBA team that gets renamed after another failure will be called the Rainbows..bank on it

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:22 am
by Screw_Michigan
War Wagon wrote: Never mind the "tradition" of the team nic, that's not what it's really about. Why would any sane person decide to name their team after a derogatory term? That's right, they would not. Rather than being offensive, it should be taken as a term of endearment, of honor, towards native Americans.
I laffed, hard. You really are that stupid.

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:51 am
by poptart
http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events ... d7fb768bb7

“We don’t have a problem with [the name] at all; in fact we’re honored. We’re quite honored.”

As the eldest member of his blood line, Dodson represents more than 700 remaining tribe members and talked to Redskins Nation about the positive power of the Redskins’ name.

“It’s actually a term of endearment that we would refer to each other as,” he explained. “When we were on the reservation, we would call each other, ‘Hey, what’s up redskin?’ We would nickname it just ‘skins.’”




LOL


Very much what we have going on today.

Replace redskin with ni66er and you've got 2014.



The Atlanta Ni66ers!

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:08 pm
by poptart
Btw, is Yankees now going to be done away with?



Word Origin & History

Yankee
1683, a name applied disparagingly by Du. settlers in New Amsterdam (New York) to English colonists in neighboring Connecticut. It may be from Du. Janke, lit. "Little John," dim. of common personal name Jan; or it may be from Jan Kes familiar form of "John Cornelius," or perhaps an alt. of Jan Kees,




World English Dictionary
Yankee or ( informal ) Yank (ˈjæŋkɪ)
— n
1. derogatory often a native or inhabitant of the US; American





Stop the friggin' madness, already. :meds:

They've been the Redskins for 80 years, or something like that.

Who gives a damn?

Morons.

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:32 pm
by War Wagon
Screw_Michigan wrote:I laffed, hard. You really are that stupid.
Coming from you, that can only be taken as a merit badge.

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:19 pm
by Moving Sale
War Wagon wrote: I guess some people have nothing better to do than find things to be PC and/or offended about.
What would that have to be called for you to be offended?

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:45 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
poptart wrote:The only people offended by Redskins are people who would throw a party if an expansion team came along and called it's self the Los Angeles Butt Plugs.
We already have the Green Bay Packers. Close enough.

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:26 pm
by Y2K
Moving Sale wrote:
War Wagon wrote: I guess some people have nothing better to do than find things to be PC and/or offended about.
What would that have to be called for you to be offended?
After being on these boards for awhile I don't think anything offends me anymore, as a matter of fact I suggest we offer a whole bunch of Native Americans the welcome mat here at T1B. It wouldn't be long before they would be pleading to just be called a Redskin.

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:48 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
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"At least I'm not AP"

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:29 pm
by Dinsdale
Did Wags really just bust out "they should be flattered that we call them by a derogatory term," or something to that effect?

Did I really just read that?

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:32 pm
by Killian
Moving Sale wrote:What would that have to be called for you to be offended?
This is honestly a good question. I can’t think of a single word that offends me. I also don’t search out words and tell other people that they should be offended by them. The only one that really pisses me off is retard, when it is used in a derogatory way. I wouldn’t say that it offends me, but it pisses me off that someone would use a term that is derogatory towards a group of people that most of the time cannot defend themselves.

I admit that I have never been on the receiving end of any truly hateful words that actually carried any weight because I am a straight, white male. But to answer your question, there isn’t a word or words that can offend me.

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:02 pm
by Goober McTuber
Killian wrote:The only one that really pisses me off is retard, when it is used in a derogatory way. I wouldn’t say that it offends me, but it pisses me off that someone would use a term that is derogatory towards a group of people that most of the time cannot defend themselves.
Does this include all derivatives, such as libtard, progtard, conservatard, moptard, etc? Just curious.

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:06 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Sudden Sam wrote:
Killian wrote:there isn’t a word or words that can offend me.
Same here.

I'd have thought "till death do us part" would probably send you into a full panic...

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:23 pm
by Killian
Goober McTuber wrote:
Killian wrote:The only one that really pisses me off is retard, when it is used in a derogatory way. I wouldn’t say that it offends me, but it pisses me off that someone would use a term that is derogatory towards a group of people that most of the time cannot defend themselves.
Does this include all derivatives, such as libtard, progtard, conservatard, moptard, etc? Just curious.
Yeah. Don't like them, don't use them. Can't say I've never used them, but I don't use them today. I think the slang use of the word 'tard' and all it's derivatives are awful. Call a guy a niqqer, kike, spic, fag, chink, etc. to their face, and you typically have to face some sort of retribution, be it physical or verbal. Plus, many times the person who had the insult hurled at them can size up the person saying it, realize that it was just a word that was trying to inflict harm, and casually laugh it off. Call someone with down syndrome a retard, and you basically just wounded another human being to their core and they have no way to come back against you. Many times they also lack the ability to realize that the person saying that word isn't worth feeling bad over. Doesn't seem very fair to me.

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:27 pm
by Goober McTuber
Killian wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:
Killian wrote:The only one that really pisses me off is retard, when it is used in a derogatory way. I wouldn’t say that it offends me, but it pisses me off that someone would use a term that is derogatory towards a group of people that most of the time cannot defend themselves.
Does this include all derivatives, such as libtard, progtard, conservatard, moptard, etc? Just curious.
Yeah. Don't like them, don't use them. Can't say I've never used them, but I don't use them today. I think the slang use of the word 'tard' and all it's derivatives are awful. Call a guy a niqqer, kike, spic, fag, chink, etc. to their face, and you typically have to face some sort of retribution, be it physical or verbal. Plus, many times the person who had the insult hurled at them can size up the person saying it, realize that it was just a word that was trying to inflict harm, and casually laugh it off. Call someone with down syndrome a retard, and you basically just wounded another human being to their core and they have no way to come back against you. Many times they also lack the ability to realize that the person saying that word isn't worth feeling bad over. Doesn't seem very fair to me.
OK. Despite his avatar, I didn't realize suckaholic actually suffered from Down's Syndrome. I'll try to be more careful.

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:18 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Goober McTuber wrote:
OK. Despite his avatar, I didn't realize suckaholic actually suffered from Down's Syndrome. I'll try to be more careful.

The term "suffered" has been applied with a degree of objectivity in his case, I believe...

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:39 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:
I'd have thought "till death do us part" would probably send you into a full panic...
They're just words. WGAF?

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:19 pm
by R-Jack
Did anyone else think that New York Jews hat looked pretty sweet?

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:52 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Wait...that's not a real team?

:?

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:19 pm
by Derron
Killian wrote:
I admit that I have never been on the receiving end of any truly hateful words that actually carried any weight because I am a straight, white male. But to answer your question, there isn’t a word or words that can offend me.
Ok cracker ass mother fucker. That is what they all say " I am a straight, white male.

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:56 pm
by War Wagon
Dinsdale wrote:Did Wags really just bust out "they should be flattered that we call them by a derogatory term," or something to that effect?

Did I really just read that?
No, that's not what I wrote or anything remotely close to that effect. My take was crystal clear that anybody above the mental midget level of Screwed could easily comprehend so it should require no further explanation. Or you could read 'tarts response, which expound upon that further.

Not that this makes any difference to the discussion but my wifes' mother (RIP) was half Cherokee. My wife and daughter are proud of that heritage and so am I. Neither of them see a team using the nic "redskins" as being derogatory. Some feel differently, obviously, thus all the fuss. That's their personal problem and they need to get the fuck over it.

But the bottom line is that no team, now or 100 years ago, would call their team a name they thought was in any way derogatory. That would be counter productive.

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:50 am
by Screw_Michigan
War Wagon wrote: But the bottom line is that no team, now or 100 years ago, would call their team a name they thought was in any way derogatory. That would be counter productive.
I'm sorry, how do you know that? At what level of education did you learn about race relations in the early 1900s?

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:08 am
by War Wagon
Screw, assuming you could start a new MLS franchise, would you name them the DC Jizzmoppers?

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:34 am
by Wolfman
My 14 month old twin grand daughters are 1/4 Tuscarora(Iroqouis). I asked them about it. One said "goo goo", the other said "ga ga." I guess that settles it.

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:39 am
by R-Jack
War Wagon wrote: But the bottom line is that no team, now or 100 years ago, would call their team a name they thought was in any way derogatory. That would be counter productive.
Brilliant take dipshit

Sin,
Sambo comics from 100 years ago

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:44 am
by Moving Sale
Just so we are clear why he changed the name in the first place.

http://thinkprogress.org/sports/2014/05 ... americans/

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:54 am
by poptart
Wagon wrote:That's their personal problem and they need to get the fuck over it.
Yes, obviously.

If a newspaper calls it's self The New York Daily Jews, and poptart doesn't like it, poptart doesn't buy it.

If Redskins bothers you, don't watch it, don't support it, don't care about it.

THE END.


In the meantime, go suck on a pacifier and leave the rest of the adult world alone.

Juvenile wackjobs.

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:05 am
by War Wagon
R-Jack wrote:
War Wagon wrote: But the bottom line is that no team, now or 100 years ago, would call their team a name they thought was in any way derogatory. That would be counter productive.
Brilliant take dipshit

Sin,
Sambo comics from 100 years ago
You're comparing an NFL franchise with a comic strip?

Your reach exceeds your grasp. What's happened to you? You're not the same. Divorce not treating you well I reckon.

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:22 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Moving Sale wrote:Just so we are clear why he changed the name in the first place.

http://thinkprogress.org/sports/2014/05 ... americans/

From the Comments section in your link:

The solution is really simple. Florida State University is famous for being the Seminoles. They license the name from the tribe, support scholarships, and both sides benefit.

The Washington team needs to partner with the Patawomeck tribe of Virginia. Also known as the Potomacs. The Washington Potomacs. Change the logo slightly so the warrior is wearing wild turkey feathers and you're done. Makes even more sense when you remember that the Potomac River (named for the tribe) runs on one side of D.C.

Problem solved. For my next trick, I'll get Boston basketball fans to pronounce "Celtic" correctly.



Sounds about right.

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:26 am
by Moving Sale
poptart wrote: If Redskins bothers you, don't watch it, don't support it.
That is not how trademark law works.

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:29 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
In other news...


...you guys missed out on some great soccer today.

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:29 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
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Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:33 am
by Moving Sale
Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:In other news...


...you guys missed out on some great soccer today.
Maybe but I saw most of Mexico Croatia.

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:36 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Moving Sale wrote:I saw most of Mexico Croatia.
Sounds like the screen name of a midget porn star...

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:38 am
by Screw_Michigan
And a hot one at that.

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:05 am
by poptart
poptart wrote:If Redskins bothers you, don't watch it, don't support it.
Moving Bowel wrote:That is not how trademark law works.
Go piss up a rope.

Re: Washington Redskins

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:17 pm
by Moving Sale
poptart wrote:
poptart wrote:If Redskins bothers you, don't watch it, don't support it.
Moving Bowel wrote:That is not how trademark law works.
Go piss up a rope.
So you don't care about US law. Nice post commie.