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Third winningest manager in MLB history, 3 WS championships, decides to exit while on top.

Nice going Tony, you've been a credit to baseball.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd ... b&c_id=mlb

Most overrated manager of all time.

Goober McTuber wrote:Most overrated manager of all time.

How so?

He had powerhouse teams in Oakland for a number of years and won one title. He had power house heavily juiced teams in St. Louis and won one title. He may be number three all time in wins, but he’s number two in losses. Not a horrible manager, but hardly a great one.

Oh, and he's a vegetarian.

You try and manage 259 lb juiceheads and tell them to stop doing arm curls and flexing in the clubhouse mirror because it's their turn to hit. It takes a very unique skillset.

Best steroid manager of all time hands down.

Goober McTuber wrote:He had power house heavily juiced teams in St. Louis and won one title.

Really? What year was that one title?

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:

Goober McTuber wrote:He had power house heavily juiced teams in St. Louis and won one title.

Really? What year was that one title?

2006.

Goober McTuber wrote:

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:

Goober McTuber wrote:He had power house heavily juiced teams in St. Louis and won one title.

Really? What year was that one title?

2006.

Goobs' mental DVR hasn't quite caught up with last week yet.
Either that or he's setting us all up for another of his brilliant comebacks.

Mikey wrote:Goobs' mental DVR hasn't quite caught up with last week yet.
Either that or he's setting us all up for another of his brilliant comebacks.

I was assuming that this year's team was not heavily juiced. Maybe you know different?

PooHoles is the biggest question mark in the juicing department. He was on both teams.

Who else on that 83 win squad would even be suspected?

i think Edmonds was a juicer

That whole Angels team he was on, before coming to St.Louis was on the shit.

You can probably trade Edmonds for Holliday in that regard.

Goober McTuber wrote:

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:

Goober McTuber wrote:He had power house heavily juiced teams in St. Louis and won one title.

Really? What year was that one title?

2006.

Or after MLB began testing for steroids? Epic take...

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:Or after MLB began testing for steroids? Epic take...

They started testing the year before. I would have thought there were still some juicers in 2006, or that the juicers who quit in 2005 still had some residual benefits from juicing, but I'll always acknowledge your expertise in this area because AP says you're a juicer. Hey, I can easily go along with the premise that La Russa won zero titles with power house heavily juiced teams in St. Louis.

Goober McTuber wrote:I would have thought.

Always an epic fail... but let's continue anyways.

Goober McTuber wrote:there were still some juicers in 2006, or that the juicers who quit in 2005 still had some residual benefits from juicing.

Are you really singling out just STL when the Mitchell Report showed us that every team was littered with players who were using PEDs?

Can you name one WS winning team from 1990 -2005 who isn't suspected of have a shitload of juice monkeys on its roster?

Goober McTuber wrote:but I'll always acknowledge your expertise in this area because AP says you're a juicer.

Couple of points here, hoss. Number one: I remember the year that baseball implemented its steroid testing policy. I am not sure how this qualifies me as an expert on juicing. This just means I can successfully read and remember things. I am not sure where you fall in either of these two categories. Number two: If you are using AP as a reference for anything other than cross-dressing and being a lush, then you're on thin ice.

Goober McTuber wrote:Hey, I can easily go along with the premise that La Russa won zero titles with power house heavily juiced teams in St. Louis.

And he was going up against teams who had just as many, if not more, 'roid boys. His time in STL was during the height of the steroid era. Again, if you actually stumble upon a relevant talking point, please let me know.

Cards are a bunch of juicers. And the other 29 teams are clean.

Goober McTuber wrote:Oh, and he's a vegetarian.

And a lawyer.

Bizzarofelice wrote:Cards are a bunch of juicers. And the other 29 teams are clean.

Just two titles?

I guess he was overrated.

Sudden Sam wrote:Cards should hire Francona immediately.

No.

Why not francona?

Is it because his only success is in the AL?

That could be a valid reason, since managing skills are quite a bit more impotent in the NL.