Just Die Baby

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:59 pm

RIP Al Davis

Thoughts and prayers Raider Nation.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/70743 ... se-unknown

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:12 pm

Well played...we'd also accept "A Commitment to Rigamortis".

RIP...of course he had to kick it just when the Raidahs are back to being respectable. Do RaidahFans even mourn his death or do they just go punch a ChargerFan?

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:14 pm

Mourn?

They're probably out celebrating by breaking windows and starting dumpster fires.

Sirfindafold · Post by **Sirfindafold** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:23 pm

The Greatest Raider Ever - RIP Mr. Davis

Flawed Logic · Post by **Flawed Logic** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:25 pm

That's what makes it tough, War Wagon.
His Hall of Fame worthy contributions to the NFL, helping it move toward the league we love, are indisputable. His leadership, rebellion, and willingness to buck the establishment while the Raiders won 3 Super Bowls and earning countless playoff appearances are legendary.
Did he hold on too long into an era where his style didn't work? Yep.
Should it tarnish his legacy? That's a tough one to answer simply but I'll still mourn the passing of an AFL/NFL giant.

R-Jack · Post by **R-Jack** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:27 pm

The sad thing is, this team better not stay in the family.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:44 pm

When Davis is buried he will be buried standing so as to reaffirm his commitment to "going vertical."

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:47 pm

Flawed Logic wrote:His Hall of Fame worthy contributions to the NFL, helping it move toward the league we love, are indisputable.

No arguement here, along with Lamar Hunt, Bud Adams, etc. they were charter members of the "foolish club", the owners who started the AFL of which was said that it would never work.

trev · Post by **trev** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:29 pm

What a guy he was. Rest in peace Al Davis. Thinking of you Raider Nation.

Truman · Post by **Truman** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:44 pm

I call bullshit. Everyone knows the Crypt Keeper has been dead goin' on 10 years now. Wouldn't surprise me to see him holding a presser come Tuesday...

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:22 pm

Deader than Ted Kennedy.

Feel good story of the week.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:28 pm

Well, it seems I've been GDed by the NFL forum. Oh well.

'spose I should piss on a AFC west fan in his memory if i see one today.

RIP Al.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:43 pm

smackaholic wrote:Well, it seems I've been GDed by the NFL forum. Oh well.

'spose I should piss on a AFC west fan in his memory if i see one today.

RIP Al.

A Charger hat will do.

sin

CMike

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:12 pm

Truman wrote:I call bullshit. Everyone knows the Crypt Keeper has been dead goin' on 10 years now. Wouldn't surprise me to see him holding a presser come Tuesday...

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:27 pm

Nice scoop Bri.

Gheesh, first Steve Jobs and now Algore..two geniuses in one week...who's next? Pelosi?

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:53 pm

The league is going to be a lot more dull without him. It's been a pleasure hating on him over the years.

RIP

Kansas City Kid · Post by **Kansas City Kid** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:59 pm

What a legend along with Lamar Hunt. RIP Mr. Davis and having a good thought for Raider nation.

Truman · Post by **Truman** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:48 pm

Toddowen wrote: The Bolts should offer some kind of tribute out of respect, as should every team up against the Raiders for the rest of the year, most of which would never have been born without Al Davis.

Great idea, Todd. Maybe they should name the AFC Championship trophy after Davis, as it appears nobody else is worthy...

Oh, wait...

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:56 pm

Truman wrote:
Toddowen wrote: The Bolts should offer some kind of tribute out of respect, as should every team up against the Raiders for the rest of the year, most of which would never have been born without Al Davis.
Great idea, Todd. Maybe they should name the AFC Championship trophy after Davis, as it appears nobody else is worthy...

Oh, wait...

Only because Hunt died first.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:59 pm

Toddowen wrote: The Bolts should offer some kind of tribute out of respect, as should every team up against the Raiders for the rest of the year,

Let's not get carried away.

Personally, I will be pulling for the Duhs on Sunday just this once. I hope they blast Autumn Wind in the locker room then come out raging and kick the dicks off of the Texans.

Truman · Post by **Truman** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:32 am

mvscal wrote:
Truman wrote:
Toddowen wrote: The Bolts should offer some kind of tribute out of respect, as should every team up against the Raiders for the rest of the year, most of which would never have been born without Al Davis.
Great idea, Todd. Maybe they should name the AFC Championship trophy after Davis, as it appears nobody else is worthy...

Oh, wait...
Only because Hunt died first.

Correct. Only reason. A whole twenty-two years before his death. Ever'body figgered ol' Lamar'd go first, hence the honor.

You got anything to add here, Loser, or are you content with a white-hot poker lodged firmly up your ass? Fucking bag of flaming fuck...

40 days to live · Post by **40 days to live** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:01 am

AAAaaaarrrGghhhhh

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:00 am

mvscal wrote: Only because Hunt died first.

Wow. You really are clueless.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:10 am

October 8, 2011 - the very saddest of days in The Nation.

Simply put, Al Davis was the Raiders.

Going forward, win or lose, Raider football will never be quite the same.

RIP, Al.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:34 am

save your crocodile tears, dude is going to burn in hell.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:11 am

War Wagon wrote:save your crocodile tears, dude is going to burn in hell.

For ruining the Raiders? Are you kidding? He'll sit on the right hand of God, just for that.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:38 am

Like for Blackhawks fans when Dollar Bill Wirtz passed away, Al passing away will be the best thing to happen to the Duhs.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:15 am

Buttsy, I was never able to muster up enough hate for Al to bash him real hard.

I think it's that way with most all Raider fans of my age - who were around to live through the glory years that he gave us.
Those years were unforgettable and SO much fun.

50 years of Al Davis football can just about be split in half.
1962-1985.
1986-2011.

The first half, yeah, the man was BRILLIANT, DYNAMIC, and he just plain GOT IT DONE.

The second half, he was very mediocre - and in the last 10 years, just horrendously bad.
Too many lawsuits distracted him in the 80's and 90's and then in the 00's he just couldn't come to grips with the need to take a step back and let others get more involved in handling the organization.

But in the very bad times, I couldn't slam him much.
Never could.
As a fan, he had already given me so much.
He was fiercely loyal, he built and fostered a sports organization that was quite unique, and he simply busted his ass to try to WIN.

I wanted him to live to 100.

Again, it's a terribly sad day for Raider fans.

Th · Post by Th » Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:57 am

Flawed Logic wrote:That's what makes it tough, War Wagon.
His Hall of Fame worthy contributions to the NFL, helping it move toward the league we love, are indisputable. His leadership, rebellion, and willingness to buck the establishment while the Raiders won 3 Super Bowls and earning countless playoff appearances are legendary.
Did he hold on too long into an era where his style didn't work? Yep.
Should it tarnish his legacy? That's a tough one to answer simply but I'll still mourn the passing of an AFL/NFL giant.

IN

Looks like picking the Raiders to cover this weekend was a GOOD idea after all . . . . . . . .

jiminphilly · Post by **jiminphilly** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:53 pm

In true Al Davis style let's hope the pall-bearers manage to get the casket from the hearse to the burial site in under 4.4 seconds.

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:56 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:Like for Blackhawks fans when Dollar Bill Wirtz passed away, Al passing away will be the best thing to happen to the Duhs.

Wirtz held that team down from Day 1...at least Al had some glory days. Question is, do they have a Rocky Wirtz to take over the Raidahs?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:15 pm

Shoalzie wrote:
Screw_Michigan wrote:Like for Blackhawks fans when Dollar Bill Wirtz passed away, Al passing away will be the best thing to happen to the Duhs.

Wirtz held that team down from Day 1...at least Al had some glory days. Question is, do they have a Rocky Wirtz to take over the Raidahs?

PFT is reporting that the Davis family should be able to retain possession and that Mark Davis does have an interest in running the team. Of course nothing official.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... f-raiders/

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:19 pm

love him or hate him, he definitely made the NFL much more interesting....most of the guys that played for him loved the guy and that speaks volumes....

R-Jack · Post by **R-Jack** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:36 pm

BSmack wrote:
Shoalzie wrote:
Screw_Michigan wrote:Like for Blackhawks fans when Dollar Bill Wirtz passed away, Al passing away will be the best thing to happen to the Duhs.

Wirtz held that team down from Day 1...at least Al had some glory days. Question is, do they have a Rocky Wirtz to take over the Raidahs?
PFT is reporting that the Davis family should be able to retain possession and that Mark Davis does have an interest in running the team. Of course nothing official.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... f-raiders/

That could be disastrous. In the very short time I worked there, Mark Davis was known throughout the building as a restaurant-quality fuck up. The team was Al's child, or at least the one he spent all his time raising.

orcinus · Post by **orcinus** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:31 pm

Autumn wind, indeed. Fare thee well, Pirate ... fare thee well.

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:21 pm

jiminphilly wrote:In true Al Davis style let's hope the pall-bearers manage to get the casket from the hearse to the burial site in under 4.4 seconds.

Thats a RACK.

Tart is right...my father got to witness Al at his very best and his worst. I was somewhere in between and remember Plunkett, Long, Allen and later on the Bo Jackson and "fuck you Marcus, Bo is better" debacle (Bo was, of course), as well as Schroeder, Hostetler, and Gannon years that finally ended yesterday. Mixed feelings about it to be sure, but the man was a legend who helped shaped the NFL into what it is today.

RJack, The team was left to Mark (his son), Carol (his wife), and John Madden. We'll be MUCH better off futurewise without Al and his syncophantic hanger ons like Herrera running the fucking show.

RIP Al Davis.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:36 pm

Is Madden involved in the team?

Everyone is heaping all the credit for the good years on Al, but, I think his single greatest move was hiring John. Dude was arguably the best coach in the history of the NFL. He's proven over the past 3 decades behind the mike that he knows football and more importantly, football players, better than anyone. If his ticker hadn't forced him out of the game way too soon, he would likely be working on a second hand of SB rings by now.

That being said, I'm glad he did hang up his clipboard. As a kid in the seventies and a steelers fan, I hated that motherfukker more than anything. Had he continued to coach, I would likely be sitting in the pen now serving out a murder 1 rap for killing him somewhere around 1989 after winning his 5th ring.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:38 pm

Raydah James wrote:The team was left to Mark (his son),

Hopefully he'll be able to get real haircut instead of just dropping a salad bowl on his head.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:41 am

lol

Yeah, sort of looked like Peter Brady dyed his hair blond and took over the Raiduhs.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:50 am

smackaholic wrote:but, I think his single greatest move was hiring John.

And where would video game football be without John? We'd still be playing High Impact Football or some other gax shit.

RIP Alcula.