Pirates 4, Mariners 2

[Goober McTuber]

NAIROBI, Kenya -- Four Americans taken hostage by Somali pirates off East Africa were shot and killed by their captors Tuesday, the U.S. military said, marking the first time U.S. citizens have been killed in a wave of pirate attacks plaguing the Gulf of Aden and the Indian Ocean for years.

U.S. naval forces who were trailing the Americans' captured yacht with four warships quickly boarded the vessel after hearing the gunfire. They tried to provide lifesaving care to the Americans, but they died of their wounds, U.S. Central Command in Tampa, Florida said in a statement.

A member of a U.S. special operations force killed one of the pirates with a knife as he went inside of the yacht, said Vice Adm. Mark Fox, commander of U.S. naval forces for Central Command.

Fox said in a televised briefing that the violence on Tuesday started when a rocket-propelled grenade was fired from the yacht at the USS Sterett, a guided-missile destroyer 600 yards (meters) away. The RPG missed and almost immediately afterward small arms fire was heard coming from the yacht, Fox said.

President Barack Obama, who was notified about the deaths at 4:42 a.m. Washington time, had authorized the military on Saturday to use force in case of an imminent threat to the hostages, said White House spokesman Jay Carney.

A total of two pirates, including the one who was knifed, died during the ensuing confrontation - which happened around 9 a.m. East Africa time - and 13 were captured and detained, the Central Command said. The remains of two other pirates who were already dead for some time were also found. The U.S. military didn't state how those two died. It was unclear if the pirates had fought among themselves.

Negotiations had been under way to try to win the release of the two couples on the pirated vessel Quest when the gunfire was heard, the U.S. military said. Fox, asked by reporters about the nature of the negotiations, said he had no details.

He identified the slain Americans as Jean and Scott Adam, of Marina del Rey near Los Angeles, and Phyllis Macay and Bob Riggle, of Seattle, Washington.

The Quest was the home of the Adams who had been sailing around the world since December 2004 with a yacht full of Bibles.

Pirates hijacked the Quest on Friday several hundred miles south of Oman. Fox said mariners are warned about traveling through the area because of the dangers of pirate attacks.

Gen. James N. Mattis, commander of U.S. Central Command, said: "We express our deepest condolences for the innocent lives callously lost aboard the Quest."

In total the U.S. said that 19 pirates were involved in the hijacking of the Quest.

Two days before the attack, a New York court had sentenced a pirate to 33 years in prison for the 2009 hijacking of the Maersk Alabama, a U.S. cargo vessel. That hijacking ended when Navy sharpshooters killed two pirates holding the ship's captain. A pirate in Somalia told the AP last week that pirates were more likely to attack Americans because of the verdict.

"It's a black day for us and also the Americans, but they lost bigger than us," a pirate who said his name was Bile Hussein said Tuesday. "If they still want a solution and safety for their citizens in the oceans, let them release our men they arrested."

At the Seattle Singles Yacht Club, where Riggle and Macay were members, Joe Grande said the two were "great sailors, good people. They were doing what they wanted to do, but that's small comfort in the face of this."

Only minutes before the military announced that the four Americans had died, a Somali pirate told The Associated Press by phone that if the yacht were attacked, "the hostages will be the first to go."

"Some pirates have even suggested rigging the yacht with land mines and explosives so as the whole yacht explodes with the first gunshot," said the pirate, who gave his name as Abdullahi Mohamed, who claimed to be a friend of the pirates holding the four Americans.

Graeme Gibbon-Brooks, the head of Dryad Maritime Intelligence, said he was confounded by the turn of events.

"We have heard threats against the lives of Americans before but it strikes me as being very, very unusual why they would kill hostages outright," he said, adding that the pirates must realize that killing Americans would invite a military response.

The military said U.S. forces have been monitoring the Quest for about three days, since shortly after the Friday attack. Four Navy warships were involved, including the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise.

The killing of the four Americans appears to underscore an increasingly brutal and aggressive shift pirates have been showing toward hostages. The conventional wisdom in the shipping industry had been that Somali pirates are businessmen looking for a ransom payday, not insurgents looking to terrorize people.

Pirates - who currently hold 30 ships and more than 660 hostages - typically win a multimillion ransom for releasing their captives, a huge sum that is shared among investors and pirates. The money is often spent on alcohol, drugs and prostitutes. One ransom paid last year was reported as $9.5 million. Most ransoms are worth several million dollars.

Given that typical financial motivation, Tuesday's killings left several unanswered questions, such as whether the four hostages had tried to take over the yacht from the pirates, or if the American forces spooked the pirates by approaching the yacht.

Pirates have increased attacks off the coast of East Africa in recent years despite an international flotilla of warships dedicated to protecting vessels and stopping the pirate assaults.

Mohamed, the pirate in Somalia, told AP that pirate leaders had been expecting the yacht to make landfall soon.

Five cars full of pirates were headed toward the pirate dens of Eyl and Gara'ad in anticipation of the Quest reaching land Monday, he said. Had the four reached land, they may have faced a long hostage ordeal like the 388 days that the British sailing couple Paul and Rachel Chandler spent in the hands of pirates. The two were released in November.

Omar Jamal, first secretary at Somalia's mission at the U.N., sent his condolences to the families of the four Americans and called the deaths a tragic loss of life. Jamal said there is an urgent need to address the piracy problem.

"This incident is a clear message and alarm that it's time the world community quickly steps up to stop these pirate criminal activities. They should be treated mercilessly," said Gen. Yusuf Ahmed Khayr, the security minister in the northern Somalia region of Puntland, a pirate haven.

The Adams ran a Bible ministry and have been distributing Bibles to schools and churches in remote villages in areas including the Fiji Islands, Alaska, New Zealand, Central America and French Polynesia.

At the Seattle Singles Yacht Club, friend Hank Curci said Riggle and Macay were carrying out a lifelong dream. The couple left Seattle about nine or 10 months ago.

"Now that they're gone it's just difficult for us to accept because it's like having a family member killed," he said.

[Derron]

So do you suppose this will change the way these water rats are dealt with ?

[Goober McTuber]

Let's hope so.

[Screw_Michigan]

Thanks for the update, Tubelink42.

[R-Jack]

Nice try with the headline......still doesn't top this one though.

[Wolfman]

Looks like inter-league play was not a good idea.

[Sirfindafold]

Goober 0.

[Goober McTuber]

Thanks for the update, Tubelink42.

Always happy to help out. I knew you'd appreciate it.

[smackaholic]

we know who the pirates are. can we please just start sinking their boats on site.

i am really getting tired of us not fixing a very fixable problem.

just why the fukk do we bother with a really, really expensive navy if we are afraid to use it?

[poptart]

Has Barry issued an apology yet?

[War Wagon]

just why the fukk do we bother with a really, really expensive navy if we are afraid to use it?

Gee, I dunno... perhaps there are more square miles of ocean to cover than the worlds policeman can patrol?

The military said U.S. forces have been monitoring the Quest for about three days, since shortly after the Friday attack. Four Navy warships were involved, including the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise.

oh, wait... we spent a whole lot of money monitoring a private yacht on a vacation mission to distribute Bibles... mission critical stuff.

[Diego in Seattle]

BFD

NHI

Just some thumpers.

[smackaholic]

just why the fukk do we bother with a really, really expensive navy if we are afraid to use it?

Gee, I dunno... perhaps there are more square miles of ocean to cover than the worlds policeman can patrol?

you shoulda quit at i dunno.

open ocean is pretty fukking easy to patrol. the are no trees or caves to hide in, dumbass. also, there is no need to patrol the entire indian ocean. we simply proclaim established sea lanes as no go areas unless you have reason to be there. require that anyone using these routes be OKed ahead of time by the proper authorities and require them to carry IFF gear.

then you patrol these routes with aircraft. you find somebody there without IFF that appears to be a pirate you blow them the fukk outta the water or maybe, if you are feeling charitable that day, have them checked out by whatever navy ship is in the area. personally, i prefer the former.

and for those that bitch and whine about international waters being soveriegn, you shoot them too.

[Derron]

This might be a better way to take care of it..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDmdtcyDVlg

[OCmike]

you shoulda quit at i dunno.

open ocean is pretty fukking easy to patrol. the are no trees or caves to hide in, dumbass. also, there is no need to patrol the entire indian ocean. we simply proclaim established sea lanes as no go areas unless you have reason to be there.

then you patrol these routes with aircraft. you find somebody there without IFF that appears to be a pirate you blow them the fukk outta the water or maybe, if you are feeling charitable that day, have them checked out by whatever navy ship is .

A guided middle cruiser costs about $10 million/month to operate and you want it and patrol aircraft based out of Diego Garcia (that will need to refuel midair for the flight back) to conduct daily patrols over thousands of miles of open water just in case an American happens to get hijacked once or twice a year?

Feel free to never bitch about government spending ever again.

[smackaholic]

you shoulda quit at i dunno.

open ocean is pretty fukking easy to patrol. the are no trees or caves to hide in, dumbass. also, there is no need to patrol the entire indian ocean. we simply proclaim established sea lanes as no go areas unless you have reason to be there.

then you patrol these routes with aircraft. you find somebody there without IFF that appears to be a pirate you blow them the fukk outta the water or maybe, if you are feeling charitable that day, have them checked out by whatever navy ship is .

A guided middle cruiser costs about $10 million/month to operate and you want it and patrol aircraft based out of Diego Garcia (that will need to refuel midair for the flight back) to conduct daily patrols over thousands of miles of open water just in case an American happens to get hijacked once or twice a year?

Feel free to never bitch about government spending ever again.

who said anything about guided missile cruisers?

This could be done with an old frigate or a coast guard cutter. Fukk, it could be done with a damn tug boat, just about.

And patrols could be done with unmanned drones rather cheaply flown off of pretty damn near anything.

As for offensive power, you could station a few old cobra gunships on any sort of merchant vessel in the area. A cobra would make mince meat of a pirate ship in short order.

[Dinsdale]

Diego Garcia

Never been, my non-serving-self, but everyone I know who's ever been (sup Navy) seems to think they invented "hot" there. The word "indescribable" comes up.

And patrols could be done with unmanned drones rather cheaply flown off of pretty damn near anything.

Predators aren't all that super-cheap to use... but æffective.

The ScanEagle (sup Dins knows a little about these, sup U&L) is awesomely cost-æffective, but has a limited range, and no armament. But, they launch from a slingshot, and land themselves on a pole, and can give coordinates as well as any other technique.


http://www.insitu.com/scaneagle


The video link at the bottom right is pretty cool.

[smackaholic]

Diego Garcia

Never been, my non-serving-self, but everyone I know who's ever been (sup Navy) seems to think they invented "hot" there. The word "indescribable" comes up.

And patrols could be done with unmanned drones rather cheaply flown off of pretty damn near anything.

Predators aren't all that super-cheap to use... but æffective.

The ScanEagle (sup Dins knows a little about these, sup U&L) is awesomely cost-æffective, but has a limited range, and no armament. But, they launch from a slingshot, and land themselves on a pole, and can give coordinates as well as any other technique.


http://www.insitu.com/scaneagle


The video link at the bottom right is pretty cool.

you are correct, dims, predators are a bit pricey as they nave the added advantage of being capable of dropping the hammer themselves. all we would need is something along the lines of the U&L product you have so shamelessly pimped. As soon as they see something they give big brother the coordinates and the hammer gets dropped. Seems to me you might have retired nam cobra pilots lined up to pay for the opportunity to light up capt. hakeem and his merry men.

[Dinsdale]

the U&L product you have so shamelessly pimped.

Worked for a company that made parts for them.


And daaaaamn, orders went down. And I don't work for them anymore.


Saw a bitchin UGV (Unmanned Ground Vehicle, as opposed to UAV) prototype put together. I believe the ability of UGVs to mow down innocent civilians will be unprecedented.


They're trying to get the inept legislture to pass a law creating a UAV test range on the Dryside (people bitching over the Shitland), which would make Oregon/SW Washington the epicenter of UAVs... who knows, General Atomics (Predator) might even move on up).


And I'll tell's ya' -- QC on that shit is insane.

[Tom In VA]

Saw a bitchin UGV (Unmanned Ground Vehicle, as opposed to UAV) prototype put together. I believe the ability of UGVs to mow down innocent civilians will be unprecedented.

Skynet and the Singularity are approaching rapidly.