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Well, I tried to get our former resident biologist back on the board. But I don't think It's going to happen. With his permission, here's his final take on the subject.

Mike the Lab Rat wrote:Was just reading some of the threads over there. What a waste of bandwidth. Wags has gotten stupider. Poptart has become even more Bible-steeped, Moving Sale is even more pointless. Homophobia, racism, and people screeching at each other without the pretense of actually considering the others' views. Nope. Never going back there. Ever.

Kinda hard to argue with his logic. There is a definite tolerance for racists, bigots and homophobes on this board. And honestly, then next time somebody seriously tries to see things from the other poster's point of view will be the first. And I don't think that's ever going to change. So everybody say goodbye to Mike the Lab Rat.

So pretense is preferable?

who gives a fuck?

ppanther wrote:So pretense is preferable?

Bye Mike the Lab Rat.


Godspeed/Sciencespeed.

BSmack wrote:So everybody say goodbye to Mike the Lab Rat.

Bye.

I see what you're saying Marty, and after careful consideration and without pretense, I agree with your point of view here.

Adios TLR. I'll always remember the epic flame war between you and Mal. Truly historic. Those were the days. Big O says hello.

Yeah, it's not complicated.

ppanther wrote:So pretense is preferable?

I'd actually prefer that people not be bigoted, racist homophobes.

Poptart has run another one....

I think a lot of people tend to confuse fear with loathing when they blithely toss around the term 'homophobe'. Despite the fact that they're often labeled as such, I don't suspect that too many people truly have an irrational fear of gays or their lifestyle.

Otherwise, Lab Rat was always one of my favorites. In our post-Euro-Moorese-Biggie world, Lab Rat and 88 pretty much took over as being my favorites.

My two cents.

BSmack wrote:

ppanther wrote:So pretense is preferable?

I'd actually prefer that people not be bigoted, racist homophobes.

I'd actually prefer that people not be thin-skinned, piss-stained handwringers.

It's a cold, cruel world, though. Have a good cry and wipe your nose.

I'm inclined to agree with everyone so far.

That's the trollophobia that drives good posters away 88.


I'm sorry if I'm speaking with pretense here.

88 wrote:Can we trade you for MTLR? It would help the ratio of trolls who seriously try to see things from the other poster's point of view. Just sayin.

Piss up a rope.

Is that scientifically feasible ? The force of the stream would have to be stronger than the force of gravity, but eventually the urine will succumb to the earth's gravitational pull.

Tom In VA wrote:I'm inclined to agree with everyone so far.

I actually laughed out loud at this. Tom, I hope you are well!

BSmack wrote:I'd actually prefer that people not be bigoted, racist homophobes.

But MtLR prefers pretense. That's what you said he said, therefore it must be true. Personally, I'd rather know if someone was an ass than have them pretend to be otherwise. But we disagree on lots of things, so this is no surprise.

ppanther wrote:I actually laughed out loud at this. Tom, I hope you are well!

Never better ppanther. The wife is 22 weeks with what appear to be twin human beings having the primary sexual characteristics of females living off nutrients in her womb. We weren't sure if they were human at first but all indications and scientific data reveal that based on appearance they are - in fact - human. We've chosen to keep them.

It's busy busy busy :D

Tom In VA wrote:I'm inclined to agree with everyone so far.

ppanther wrote:But MtLR prefers pretense. That's what you said he said, therefore it must be true. Personally, I'd rather know if someone was an ass than have them pretend to be otherwise. But we disagree on lots of things, so this is no surprise.

I think he would actually prefer an honest debate rather than the multipage abortions where posters like TVO and Poptart refuse to honestly engage.

Nice proxy post from lab rat I suppose but you tell him (if he can't read or speak for himself) that it's not possible for Wags to become stupider.

But thanks for the shout-out anyway and may his glass of Johnny Walker Red never run dry.

Rack Van's first take. Labs is good peeps.

HOWEVER...

I fail to see the pretense in the following:

Cul de Smack wrote:When you build software that enables people to interact with strangers, you run the risk of people interacting with strangers who aren't so nice.

C'mon Mike. I empathize with your disgust, but this Board DOES, on occasion, produce a salient thread worthy of debate. That you choose not to participate... Well, we are much poorer for it.

Here's my vote that you might reconsider. Just my nickle's worth...

There is a definite tolerance for racists, bigots and homophobes on this board.

There is a definite tolerance for just about anyone on this board, now that you mention it. I always find it odd when I am called to remind folks that this is not a fucking jr. high debate club. People log in here to smack and be smacked back. Shivering and piss-stained in the corner because someone here doesn't share your view...pathetic.

an honest debate rather than the multipage abortions where posters like TVO and Poptart refuse to honestly engage.

I think you're off base there, BeShellacked. Poptart has definitely taken pains to engage with other posters...most recently and notably in 88's Mass thread, and semi-heroically in the Religion forum.

whoah!
a pp sighting!

mvscal wrote:I'd actually prefer that people not be thin-skinned, piss-stained handwringers.

You do realize that it is possible to not be a racist and yet not also be a handwringer?

Now fuck off.

There's no questioning the fact that Mike the Lab Rat was run.

But I give him limited props for just ... leaving.

No tear-soaked "THIS IS MY FINAL POST. DELETE MY ACCOUNT, YOU ASSES. I HATE ALL OF YOU." rhetoric that goes on for ... 8 or 9 more posts.

He just left.

So good on him.

No props to him for trotting BSmack out to give us his final regards, though.

He should have come in himself or just not said anything.


You were once-upon-a-time a fairly mediocre talent, MtLR.

Bye.

MtLR is a very serious guy. Probably not the place for him.

PSUFAN wrote:

There is a definite tolerance for racists, bigots and homophobes on this board.

There is a definite tolerance for just about anyone on this board, now that you mention it.

Yep, there certainly is.

I always find it odd when I am called to remind folks that this is not a fucking jr. high debate club.

Nobody fucking called you. You stepped in of your own accord.

People log in here to smack and be smacked back. Shivering and piss-stained in the corner because someone here doesn't share your view...pathetic.

I'd hardly say that Mike is "shivering and piss stained in a corner". He, myself and about 8 other folks shred each other on a daily basis on Facebook. The difference is that we all know each other in real life and therefore are forced to be more honest, both personally and intellectually.

And I'd also recommend that you stay away from analogies referencing body waste. Just sayin.

I think you're off base there, BeShellacked. Poptart has definitely taken pains to engage with other posters...most recently and notably in 88's Mass thread, and semi-heroically in the Religion forum.

Poptart engages, but he does not engage honestly. You ask him for non biblical proofs and he's replying with fucking reams of scripture. That's not engaging, that's restating your thesis over and over and over until people tire of replying. Hell, even TVO "engages" with other posters. The problem is when he does you wish he hadn't.

poptart wrote:No props to him for trotting BSmack out to give us his final regards, though.

He didn't "trot me out". I was asked by Goober and a few others to see if he would comment on your latest idiocy in 88's mass thread. When I asked him, he declined. A week later he sent me another note which you see at the top of this thread. I then asked him if I could quote his note. He said in effect, "knock yourself out." That's it.

poptart wrote:You were once-upon-a-time a fairly mediocre talent, MtLR.

Really?

Might that be because, as a devout Catholic AND a Biologist, he pretzeled your literal biblical interpretation of the age of the Earth (10,000 years, as I recall) into a Borromean ring?

Mediocre, eh? WTF does that make you?

The depiction of someone shivering piss-stained in the corner was not intended for MtLR. It was intended with you in mind.

Poptart engages, but he does not engage honestly.

I think you're wrong...he engages honestly. Perhaps you don't agree with his world view...which apparently means he's being dishonest in your opinion. What was that you were saying about people not trying to see things from one another's perspectives?

B wrote:Poptart engages, but he does not engage honestly. You ask him for non biblical proofs and he's replying with fucking reams of scripture.

I've said repeatedly that I'm not going to prove God to you.

And in fact, you can ask me ANY question relating to the Bible and/or faith and I will give you my answer - without posting any Scripture.

I've done that over and over.

It's just the Scripture postings that stick in your mind.

Frankly, if they're posted, you should read and regard them.

Oh well.

B wrote:I was asked by Goober and a few others to see if he would comment on your latest idiocy in 88's mass thread. When I asked him, he declined.

Oh well x 2.

Mike was always a good guy.

Yes, Truman, he just couldn't hang.


:wink:


How devout is/was he?

He's now an atheist, I hear.

Hmmmmm ......



Btw, I don't know the age of the earth, and the Bible does not say how old it is.

I once took the 6,000 yr old position.
But I think the *GAP* theory (time of unknown amount between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2) has legs.

At any rate, it doesn't matter.

Jesus is the Christ.

PSUFAN wrote:I think you're wrong...he engages honestly.

Oh well. I guess we'll just have to disagree.

Perhaps you don't agree with his world view...which apparently means he's being dishonest in your opinion. What was that you were saying about people not trying to see things from one another's perspectives?

I agree with TVO's politics. Yet I also wish he would walk off a cliff.

poptart wrote:Mike was always a good guy.

And so are you. But a mediocre talent? Labs posted rings around you, pops. Don't make me dig up the thread to prove it.

poptart wrote:How devout is/was he?

He's now an atheist, I hear.

I hear? I hear? Link, pops, or you content spreading gossip?

poptart wrote:Btw, I don't know the age of the earth, and the Bible does not say how old it is.

I once took the 6,000 yr old position.
But I think the *GAP* theory (time of unknown amount between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2) has legs.

Oh, so what you're saying now is that you've changed your mind? Sorta like what Mike did with his Catholicism... allegedly? The current status of Mike's faith has zero to do with his previous dispellment of your assertion that the Earth is 6,000 years old. And I see that your new and improved *GAP* theory still has you gibbering like a Rhesus monkey. Time of unknown amount between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2?

Really pop? Then the BIBLE does not say how old the Bible is...

At any rate, it doesn't matter.

Jesus is the Christ.

...and let all the people say, Amen.

poptart wrote:There's no questioning the fact that Mike the Lab Rat was run.

But I give him limited props for just ... leaving.

No tear-soaked "THIS IS MY FINAL POST. DELETE MY ACCOUNT, YOU ASSES. I HATE ALL OF YOU." rhetoric that goes on for ... 8 or 9 more posts.

He just left.

So good on him.

No props to him for trotting BSmack out to give us his final regards, though.

He should have come in himself or just not said anything.


You were once-upon-a-time a fairly mediocre talent, MtLR.

Bye.

Fuck you, you pathetic tard. I have repeatedly disagreed with both of you, but I always respected the Lab Rat for arguing his point of view honestly and intelligently. I'm sure you were happy to fall in line when his viewpoint mirrored yours, but when you suddenly find that MtLR has an opinion that differs from yours, he's suddenly "mediocre". Fuck you, you worthless piece of shit.

Truman wrote:I hear? I hear? Link, pops, or you content spreading gossip?

I'm not searching for the thread, but it was just a matter of days ago that B made that statement that ... Mike is now an atheist ... on the board.

He sez he's in regular contact with the Rat, so I take it to be accurate.


Truman, I actually regret that I ever got into debates about creation and evolution on the boards.
While it can be interesting to discusss, it's off track and it's not important to the message of Christ.

But for your information, I do think life on earth is around 6,000 yrs old.
The Bible gives us that timeline.

It doesn't tell us about the age of the earth, though.

Could be much much older than that. - Genesis 1:1 - 1:2 gap - possible.


Keep wetting yourself, Gobbler.

Funny how the "Rat was a medicore talent" take ruffles feathers. haha

I suspect Mike himself chuckles at that, because he knows the game here.


You, Gobbles, are the renegade turd we all know and hate.

The one that somehow just won't flush - DAMN IT!

Yeah, poptard, I know. Anyone who disagrees with you is a "turd". I love how you claim to know how "we" all feel, you pathetic fuckstain.

poptart wrote:I'm not searching for the thread, but it was just a matter of days ago that B made that statement that ... Mike is now an atheist ... on the board.

For once in his life, Poptart is right. MtLR has shed religion from his life.