T1B

Lick my balls.

Sin,

RACK THAT SHIT!!!

I am going to fucking SAVOR the melts from the right tommorow.

BSmack wrote:RACK THAT SHIT!!!

I am going to fucking SAVOR the melts from the right tommorow.

I'm expecting an armed insurrection.

Mikey wrote:

BSmack wrote:RACK THAT SHIT!!!

I am going to fucking SAVOR the melts from the right tommorow.

I'm expecting an armed insurrection.

Bring it on!!!!

Sin,

Then I guess I'll have to burn your house down too, Pick!

Why are you posting pictures of Sherman Q ?

He actually did something to help end slavery.


You're celebrating a slow march back towards it.

Tom In VA wrote:Why are you posting pictures of Sherman Q ?

He actually did something to help end slavery.

You're celebrating a slow march back towards it.

Get your head out of your ass Tom.

Tom In VA wrote:Why are you posting pictures of Sherman Q ?

He actually did something to help end slavery.


You're celebrating a slow march back towards it.

Tom, you're better than that.

Sin,

You could help by letting me know how:

1. Forcing people to spend their money on health insurance.
2. Forcing small businesses to spend more money insuring their workers.
3. The increaae in taxes necessary to support the growing bureaucracy

Is NOT a slow return to working - if you're lucky - for nothing and being unable to utilize the fruits of ones labor at their own LIBERTY and DISCRETION ?

Being unable to enjoy the the fruits of your labor is by definition - slavery, servitude, it is the opposite of the LIBERTY proposed by the founders.

Q, West Coast Style wrote:Tom, you're better than that.

Apparently I'm not. I fail to see how this is increasing liberty and is NOT the exact opposite ... you know taking liberty away.

Tom In VA wrote:You could help by letting me know how:

1. Forcing people to spend their money on health insurance.

We already force people to spend their money on things they don't like. Like searching for WMD's that never existed. In many states, like Oregon, people are forced to by car insurance in order to drive.

2. Forcing small businesses to spend more money insuring their workers.

No mention of the tax breaks for small businesses?

3. The increaae in taxes necessary to support the growing bureaucracy

Is NOT a slow return to working - if you're lucky - for nothing and being unable to utilize the fruits of ones labor at their own LIBERTY and DISCRETION ?

Being unable to enjoy the the fruits of your labor is by definition - slavery, servitude, it is the opposite of the LIBERTY proposed by the founders.

So you're against any federal income tax? You should be if you're going to be consistent. By the way, here in Oregon we have basically free health care for poor families (Oregon Health Plan). But the middle class who makes too much money for OHP but doesn't have private insurace for employment of fiscal reasons get fucked. This bill helps them.

1. Driving is a privelege it is not a right. The State has every right to do that.

2. National Defense does in fact all under the purview of the federal government. Preventing Saddam from acquiring WMD was a National Defense Inititiave throughout the 1990s and up to his eventual overthrow.

3. Bait and switch, tax breaks but added costs.

4. Oregon is a State, a State has the right to ascertain the needs of the people in that State and choose what is best for the people in that State. People who don't like it can move. I am happy this bill helps them, I hope they rest easy knowing they will be helped by stolen money and with a program the Fed is not constitutionally allowed to implement. The good news is, this Administration will fucking BREAK the middle class either way, so they'd be able to have coverage anyway.


You haven't answered the questions, I don't expect you to answer the questions. I am sure you are capable of doing so, I just have to assume you are unwilling to do so. Because the truth is so utterly painful for you to face.

Whether you like it or not, you are supporting the tipping of the scales back towards the arresting of individual liberty. You are in fact supporting a march back towards not allowing people to enjoy the fruits of their own labor. That is a slow march back towards slavery.

And how 'bout those Bush Admin warrantless wiretaps, Tom? Where was the outrage about liberty and the Constitution from you and your Confederate States of America friends then?

My state has ALWAYS been a member of the United States of America. We're Patriots.

Tom's state commits treason when things don't go their way.

So your Commandeer-ing-Thief and his merry band of assholes are making progress in their efforts to fuck with the resources of productive members of society... and you're proud of that? What lofty aspirations!

Yeah, it is too bad more of the clear thinking people haven't seen through to the true essentials of the situation.

People got caught up in all the wrong debates and the focus is lost.

Let's get a few things straight:

1. The administration isn't anything like "socialist" or "communist" in orientation at all. Those ideologies sport powerful intellectual family trees (please, distinguish the thought pedigree from the murderous regimes) worthy of serious study. The shithead in the white house is merely a polished thug intent on taking from one group and giving the swag to his group.
To attach ideological labels to his scam is to tilt at windmills.

2. Everyone has access to healthcare. It is that simple. Thing is, you gotta pay for it. A "right" to having those services paid for by others is pure chicanery dreamed up by trash who pretend to be educated.

3. It is sad to see what the democrats have morphed into. At their best they could be counted upon to champion a right and decent (in terms of commonly held mores) vision of fairness and their past record of getting real reforms done is without peer.

Now they're just about 'jacking your shit.




velocet

I think this bears repeating.

LICK MY BALLS.

SIN,

velocet wrote:

So your Commandeer-ing-Thief and his merry band of assholes are making progress in their efforts to fuck with the resources of productive members of society... and you're proud of that? What lofty aspirations!

Yeah, it is too bad more of the clear thinking people haven't seen through to the true essentials of the situation.

People got caught up in all the wrong debates and the focus is lost.

Let's get a few things straight:

1. The administration isn't anything like "socialist" or "communist" in orientation at all. Those ideologies sport powerful intellectual family trees (please, distinguish the thought pedigree from the murderous regimes) worthy of serious study. The shithead in the white house is merely a polished thug intent on taking from one group and giving the swag to his group.
To attach ideological labels to his scam is to tilt at windmills.

2. Everyone has access to healthcare. It is that simple. Thing is, you gotta pay for it. A "right" to having those services paid for by others is pure chicanery dreamed up by trash who pretend to be educated.

3. It is sad to see what the democrats have morphed into. At their best they could be counted upon to champion a right and decent (in terms of commonly held mores) vision of fairness and their past record of getting real reforms done is without peer.

Now they're just about 'jacking your shit.




velocet

Velo, you're ignoring the basic fact that's necessitated major health care reform in the first place, namely the obscene profit gouging enjoyed by the insurance industry with the full blessing and legislation of "neoliberal" lunatics like Phil Gramm and John Cornyn. Or what? Are you one of these moronic assholes who somehow insists that because EVERY SINGLE developed nation on this planet has universal health care EXCEPT the U.S. is somehow...well..what?

How fucked up are you tea bagging morons?

88 wrote:You reap what you sow.

This will turn out to be a very bad law, assuming it isn't repealed or fixed in the short term.

This turd hasn't even passed yet. The ball licking invitations are premature. If the Senate follows their own rules (ridiculous I know), the House reconciliation package is DOA.

88 wrote:You are wrong, mvscal.

No, I'm not. The House reconciliation package has to be passed by the Senate and, by rule, it cannot. If the reconciliation package fails, the whole thing fails and goes back to conference.

Q, West Coast Style wrote:We already force people to spend their money on things they don't like. Like searching for WMD's that never existed. In many states, like Oregon, people are forced to by car insurance in order to drive.

Other bad government decisions have been made, and that, to your thinking, somehow makes a monumentally bad decision right?

This is the same warped defense you happy serfs lobbed up when Barry went hyper-drive with the deficit.

"Yeah, but BUSH ... "


Freedom used to be a pretty good deal.


The dems were partially correct in stating that the repugnicants didn't do anything to address health care when they were in power, so ... here ya go, losers.

That said, a complete gov takeover of health care is an absurd idea on it's face.

There are any number of ways health care issues could have been addressed without taking a sledgehammer to a mosquito.

88 wrote:I will continue to vote against those who are destroying this nation. And I will continue to work well below my capacity because I refuse to be a slave to government.

I think the country can benefit from one less lawyer. Thank you for your contribution.

We could do a lot better with about 50 million fewer social parasites.

Representation without taxation is tyranny!

mvscal wrote:

88 wrote:You are wrong, mvscal.

No, I'm not. The House reconciliation package has to be passed by the Senate and, by rule, it cannot. If the reconciliation package fails, the whole thing fails and goes back to conference.

WRONG. The shyster from Ohio is absolutely correct. House Dems did not use "Deem and pass" for this bill. That means that the House voted on the Senate bill AS IS and sent that bill to Obama for his signature. They then voted on a reconciliation measure that will be sent to the Senate under budget reconciliation rules and will be approved by a 52-48 margin as per Harry Ried's later to Pelosi.

Jsc810 wrote:I wonder what "Tea Baggers and Glenn Beck et al" would have said back when Social Security was passed, and also Medicare.

They'd have dressed up like Mark Lindsey and called Duke Ellington a n . igger.

BSmack wrote:That means that the House voted on the Senate bill AS IS and sent that bill to Obama for his signature. They then voted on a reconciliation measure that will be sent to the Senate under budget reconciliation rules and will be approved by a 52-48 margin as per Harry Ried's later to Pelosi.

Guess again, you stupid fuckstick.

mvscal wrote:

BSmack wrote:That means that the House voted on the Senate bill AS IS and sent that bill to Obama for his signature. They then voted on a reconciliation measure that will be sent to the Senate under budget reconciliation rules and will be approved by a 52-48 margin as per Harry Ried's later to Pelosi.

Guess again, you stupid fuckstick.

How about you fucking back up your position with a link or two?

BSmack wrote:

mvscal wrote:

BSmack wrote:That means that the House voted on the Senate bill AS IS and sent that bill to Obama for his signature. They then voted on a reconciliation measure that will be sent to the Senate under budget reconciliation rules and will be approved by a 52-48 margin as per Harry Ried's later to Pelosi.

Guess again, you stupid fuckstick.

How about you fucking back up your position with a link or two?

You first, pussy. The House reconciliation package changes the Senate bill. That has to be approved by the Senate.

On...igger would have signed that shit last night if it was a done deal.

mvscal wrote:On...igger would have signed that shit last night if it was a done deal.

Go fuck yourself with a land mine.

On the cusp of succeeding where numerous past congresses and administrations have failed, jubilant House Democrats voted 219-212 late Sunday to send legislation to Obama that would extend coverage to 32 million uninsured Americans, reduce deficits and ban insurance company practices such as denying coverage to people with pre-existing medical conditions.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_care_overhaul

Now man up bitch.

now would be a great time for the liberals to break out "love it or leave it."

Try reading your own link, dumbfuck.

A companion package making a series of changes sought by House Democrats to the larger bill, which already passed the Senate, was approved 220-211. The fix-it bill will now go to the Senate, where debate is expected to begin as early as Tuesday. Senate Democrats hope to approve it unchanged and send it directly to Obama, though Republicans intend to attempt parliamentary objections that could change the bill and require it to go back to the House.

You can't separate the bill from the reconcilation package, idiot.

mvscal wrote:Try reading your own link, dumbfuck.

A companion package making a series of changes sought by House Democrats to the larger bill, which already passed the Senate, was approved 220-211. The fix-it bill will now go to the Senate, where debate is expected to begin as early as Tuesday. Senate Democrats hope to approve it unchanged and send it directly to Obama, though Republicans intend to attempt parliamentary objections that could change the bill and require it to go back to the House.

You can't separate the bill from the reconcilation package, idiot.

Actually you can. That was the whole rationalle for the GOP opposition to "Deem and pass", which would have bound the reconciliation bill to the original. But your party stalwarts threw a hissy over the process (never mind that it has been done by both parties before) and now you're stuck with the Senate Bill as law and the fairly realistic hope that the Senate will also enact the reconciliation package.

Now fucking put up or shut up.

Bsmack, calm down.

Seriously. I've never seen a dude so fucking angry in victory.

But he loves congress. Ponderous.

trev wrote:Bsmack, calm down.

I assure you Trev, I am typing in calm measured tones as I occasionally break from my study of the binary underpinnings of the IP addressing system. Now go roger a bottle of vodka.

Tom wrote:Seriously. I've never seen a dude so fucking angry in victory.

Watch what you see on the mvscal/Frau Vogel tape - when it goes public.

BSmack wrote:my study of the binary underpinnings of the IP addressing system.

If it takes you more than about 2 hours to master it, you're as dumb as you come across here.

Now go roger a bottle of vodka.

I don't think "roger," as you use it here, means what you think it means.

Dinsdale wrote:

BSmack wrote:my study of the binary underpinnings of the IP addressing system.

If it takes you more than about 2 hours to master it, you're as dumb as you come across here.

2 hours sounds about right. I'm filling out stupid worksheets now and prepping for a quiz. Then it is off to study for an ELT 130 test that is so easy that, if I posted it, would provoke a truly epic Dinsdalian convulsion of laughter.