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mvscal wrote:Go ahead, flip a coin and cast your vote. It doesn't make a bit of difference. The House is the only thing standing between us and complete capitulation to socialism and the effective end of representative government in the United States.

Marx was right. Give the capitalists enough rope and they'll hang themselves.

RIP Laissez faire

A massive economic meltdown is inevitable.

Now, it's just a question of whether America wants to incur massive debt to keep the fatcat Ruling Class wealthy, or whether they should go down the tubes along with the rest of us.

Pretty obvious who lines the Senators' pockets now, though. We, as taxpayers, give them a paltry <$200K. The people who are buying up legislation are obviously ponying up a lot more than that.

Traitors, eh? Just leave the country if you don't like how we roll here. I don't think anyone is stopping you!

The House is the only thing standing between us and complete capitulation to socialism and the effective end of representative government in the United States.

Did Dan Vogel gnaw down your ballsack a little too close this morning, pussy? Holy cats, take it EASY.

mvscal wrote:

PSUFAN wrote:Traitors, eh? Just leave the country if you don't like how we roll here. I don't think anyone is stopping you!

No, the way we roll here is to put bootlickers and traitors in the ground.

How many times have you rolled that way, and what's your body count?

mvscal wrote:
It's time to pay the piper.

Remind me which failing bank the piper is CEO of, again?

Smackie Chan wrote:

mvscal wrote:

PSUFAN wrote:Traitors, eh? Just leave the country if you don't like how we roll here. I don't think anyone is stopping you!

No, the way we roll here is to put bootlickers and traitors in the ground.

How many times have you rolled that way, and what's your body count?

Don't take mvscal so seriously. It's all in his imagination.

He's got a pile of plastic army men that he regularly puts name tags on, lines up on a fort made out of building blocks, and blows up by throwing his Lincoln Logs at them.

So, the CEO of Goldman Sachs quits his buhzillion-dollar-a-year job to become Treasury Secratary... so he can give billions of dollars to...

Goldman Sachs?


Congress says "give him free run of America's credit cards"...

Anyone who ISN'T insane says "string him up on the White House Lawn as an example."

Article I, Section 7:

All bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with amendments as on other Bills.

If this current measure now passes the House, couldn't a suit be filed based on the apparent (un)Constitutionality?

mvscal wrote:

No, they used a clever little trick. They took a House bill, H.R. 1424 (Paul Wellstone Mental Health and Addiction Equity Act of 2007 ), completely gutted it and grafted the bailout package and a couple hundred billion in additional pork to it, called them amendments and cheerfully voted for it while pissing in your face.

Had enough?

Don't worry. John McCain will "veto every single earmark that comes across his desk when he's president"

JayDuck wrote:

mvscal wrote:

No, they used a clever little trick. They took a House bill, H.R. 1424 (Paul Wellstone Mental Health and Addiction Equity Act of 2007 ), completely gutted it and grafted the bailout package and a couple hundred billion in additional pork to it, called them amendments and cheerfully voted for it while pissing in your face.

Had enough?

Don't worry. John McCain will "veto every single earmark that comes across his desk when he's president"

I guess voting against them wasn't an option?

mvscal wrote:And you're laughing...why? Your shine boy voted for it too and so did his gaffe-o-matic VP selection.

Where's all this "change we can believe in"?

I'm sorry, I missed the part where Obama said he would veto any bill with earmarks.

mvscal wrote:No, they used a clever little trick. They took a House bill, H.R. 1424 (Paul Wellstone Mental Health and Addiction Equity Act of 2007 ), completely gutted it and grafted the bailout package and a couple hundred billion in additional pork to it, called them amendments and cheerfully voted for it while pissing in your face.

I figured they pulled something like that.

Btw,

Coburn (R-OK)

Biggest POS, ever. Dude spends virtually his entire time holding up spending bills in the Senate, then votes for this horseshit. Great job, Doc.

BSmack wrote: Marx was right. Give the capitalists enough rope and they'll hang themselves.

Lenin, actually:

"The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them."

I do not have enough financial / economic knowledge to know what the best course of action is now that the idiots have f*cked up our economy.

I do disagree with one of the ones on the list.

Jack Reed, Senator from RI. I have met the man in person. He is a good man!

He works hard and does what he thinks is best.

He's all white!

Well this is pretty much a Wakey Wakey.

Obama/McCain different sides of the same coin.

Webb ? Never get my vote again, ever.

That video Moby posted awhile ago is looking less and less kooky.

I do think we need a revolution!!

The Elected Officials (both Democrat and Republican) have watched this thing coming and did nothing or did not see this coming at all (Which, to me, is unforgiveable).

They will still get paid well, will still get a handsome pension, still get "the best" health care coverage and enjoy tons of other perks while we pay through our noses!

If they don't bail out OR if they do bail out, we (the common m*ther f*cking taxpayers) will be the ones who pay and worry about our retirements and health care.

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mvscal wrote:The House is the only thing standing between us and complete capitulation to socialism and the effective end of representative government in the United States.

Kinda' dramatic that, but it's more like the House is what's standing in the way of companies closing their doors and laying off all their employees indefinitely. No jobs, no income taxes.

I love how everyone in their faux outrage acts like the witholding from their paycheck is going to go up or that you'll owe the IRS more on April 1st, 2009 and beyond. It just adds more to the Federal deficit... yeah, go ahead and act outraged by that as well... as if you really give a fuck.

Those that get to keep their jobs will probably owe more than they would've with the alternative.

It must be nice to work in whatever recession proof industry you do mv... the one that apparently allows you to spend your entire workday banging out posts, never having to worry about job security. I mean shit... you've got a sweet deal going there.

What the fuck do you do for a living, anyway? And if you're too much of a pussy to answer that question, go fuck yourself. Anything you type is meaningless.

Nice job not answering the question, mvpussy.

Hey WW -- they have a place that sounds like your absolute Utopia...

It's called North Korea.

China might work in a pinch.

Because those are the places that embrace your thinking.


The socialist movement appears strong in the Bible Belt... poderous.

Tom wrote:Obama/McCain different sides of the same coin.

This should be news to no one.

The fact that is is news, however, is not really a surprise.


Americans = Just not real bright

poptart wrote: Americans = Just not real bright

Apparently neither is the rest of the world who when polled would rather see Obama as President than Hillary, McCain or anyone else.

Pride leadeth the fall poptart. Watch out for it.

poptart wrote:Americans = Just not real bright

In the case of the bailout, the public is correct, bro. It's our elective representatives who are determing "what's best" instead of listening to their constituents, in both parties.

Local radio hacks were discussing this yesterday. What is the job of the House of Reps ? To vote with the majority of their constituency or vote their conscience.

They take an oath.

"I, (name of Member), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."

Clearly, It's gods fault. He did not come through and strike them dead.

mvscal wrote:

Tom In VA wrote:What is the job of the House of Reps ?

Their job is to make intelligent, responsible decisions and not abuse the public trust.

But the responsible, intelligent decisions are often contrary to what the majority of their constituents want. If they make such decisions, they're accused of not being truly representative. If they go along with what those who elected them want, even if imprudent, they're accused of ruling by popularity polls. It can be a no-win situation, and since the goal, from a career standpoint, is re-election, they're more likely to go along with their sometimes idiotic constituents, or just line their pockets by abusing the public trust.

Smackie Chan wrote:

mvscal wrote:

Tom In VA wrote:What is the job of the House of Reps ?

Their job is to make intelligent, responsible decisions and not abuse the public trust.

But the responsible, intelligent decisions are often contrary to what the majority of their constituents want.

This was not one of those responsible, intelligent decisions. The changes made from failed plan A Bailout to passed Plan B only added pork to the bill to swing enough fence sitters. That is not responsible or intelligent.

Plan B only added pork to the bill to swing enough fence sitters.

That's part of this sham but I'm sure plenty of Members in so called "safe" Districts were looking at being on the House Underwater Basket Weaving Committee if they dare challenge Cunt Pelosi, Barney the Faggot and the rest of the Socialist Maggots. It's Washington DC at it's best. This is the most heinous POS ever crafted by the Bush administration and Congress just rammed it up our ass. Like mvscal said..enjoy this long recession and if you think for a minute it's gonna free up credit or save your retirement you are a fucking Tool. The best part is yet to come, the bar has now been set and horribly managed States like Kalifornia that have been run to the ground by a lower class of Government Moron are in DC with their hand out as well...

No smilies here, I don't find any of this shit funny.

As for JDucktheTool's assumption that this will somehow "ease" the pain?....I did laugh.
Wall Street Millionares can't thank you enough.

Looks like the idea of free market economics is all but gone now. What a lesson we're teaching these dumbfuck banks by printing more money and bailing them out of their dumbfuckery. Dumbfucks.

Y2K wrote:

Plan B only added pork to the bill to swing enough fence sitters.

That's part of this sham but I'm sure plenty of Members in so called "safe" Districts were looking at being on the House Underwater Basket Weaving Committee if they dare challenge Cunt Pelosi, Barney the Faggot and the rest of the Socialist Maggots. It's Washington DC at it's best. This is the most heinous POS ever crafted by the Bush administration and Congress just rammed it up our ass. Like mvscal said..enjoy this long recession and if you think for a minute it's gonna free up credit or save your retirement you are a fucking Tool. The best part is yet to come, the bar has now been set and horribly managed States like Kalifornia that have been run to the ground by a lower class of Government Moron are in DC with their hand out as well...

No smilies here, I don't find any of this shit funny.

As for JDucktheTool's assumption that this will somehow "ease" the pain?....I did laugh.
Wall Street Millionares can't thank you enough.

Shut the fuck up, you panty sniffing cunt. No one gives a fuck what you think.

Screw_Michigan wrote:

Y2K wrote:

Plan B only added pork to the bill to swing enough fence sitters.

That's part of this sham but I'm sure plenty of Members in so called "safe" Districts were looking at being on the House Underwater Basket Weaving Committee if they dare challenge Cunt Pelosi, Barney the Faggot and the rest of the Socialist Maggots. It's Washington DC at it's best. This is the most heinous POS ever crafted by the Bush administration and Congress just rammed it up our ass. Like mvscal said..enjoy this long recession and if you think for a minute it's gonna free up credit or save your retirement you are a fucking Tool. The best part is yet to come, the bar has now been set and horribly managed States like Kalifornia that have been run to the ground by a lower class of Government Moron are in DC with their hand out as well...

No smilies here, I don't find any of this shit funny.

As for JDucktheTool's assumption that this will somehow "ease" the pain?....I did laugh.
Wall Street Millionares can't thank you enough.

Shut the fuck up, you panty sniffing cunt. No one gives a fuck what you think.

Fuck You....

Screw_Michigan wrote: panty sniffing cunt.

hmmm!

I'd rather be the panty than the cunt
Yes I would.
If I could,
I surely would.

Y2K wrote:

Plan B only added pork to the bill to swing enough fence sitters.

That's part of this sham but I'm sure plenty of Members in so called "safe" Districts were looking at being on the House Underwater Basket Weaving Committee if they dare challenge Cunt Pelosi, Barney the Faggot and the rest of the Socialist Maggots. It's Washington DC at it's best. This is the most heinous POS ever crafted by the Bush administration and Congress just rammed it up our ass. Like mvscal said..enjoy this long recession and if you think for a minute it's gonna free up credit or save your retirement you are a fucking Tool. The best part is yet to come, the bar has now been set and horribly managed States like Kalifornia that have been run to the ground by a lower class of Government Moron are in DC with their hand out as well...

No smilies here, I don't find any of this shit funny.

RACK.

Bro, you know I'm a Democrat-leaning Independent, but this bailout is complete horseshit.

I'm more disappointed in asshats like Tom Coburn, who right after he voted for this debacle, went right back to holding up a $100 million hurricane and (Oklahoma) flood relief bill.

Yeah, go ahead and vote for something exponentially more expensive that probably won't work anyway, but be sure and hold up that "pork" for storm relief. What a goddamned fucking idiot.

We're living in the Bizzaro World.

mvscal wrote: It doesn't make a bit of difference. The House is the only thing standing between us and complete capitulation to socialism and the effective end of corporate government in the United States.

As I've patiently tried to explain, this is entirely inevitable. The predatory ponzi-scam nature of capitalism must of course find its final level of leveraged lies and so forth. DId you ever really think that a system which demands constant expansion of new markets can actually continue? For how long? I called it dead on, and despite radicals acting in my name--Lenin, Mao, Castro, etc.,--who tried, usually with disastrous results, to rush ahead with immediate socialism, my prediction has come true. Deal with it.

LTS TRN 2 wrote:

mvscal wrote: It doesn't make a bit of difference. The House is the only thing standing between us and complete capitulation to socialism and the effective end of corporate government in the United States.

As I've patiently tried to explain, this is entirely inevitable. The predatory ponzi-scam nature of capitalism must of course find its final level of leveraged lies and so forth. DId you ever really think that a system which demands constant expansion of new markets can actually continue? For how long? I called it dead on, and despite radicals acting in my name--Lenin, Mao, Castro, etc.,--who tried, usually with disastrous results, to rush ahead with immediate socialism, my prediction has come true. Deal with it.

Oh, you're a fucking genius. Capitalism requires some form of morality were socialism requires none. The vote for the 'bail out' is proof of that notion. The problem with this issue is that the socialist cunts that created this mess are not in prison for fraud, embezzlement, taking bribes, and violating the public trust and oath of office.

FUCK YOU!

Yeah, but Sarah Palin has big tits and plenty of experience as a hockey mom, so what are you all worried about?

Jerkovich wrote:

LTS TRN 2 wrote:

mvscal wrote: It doesn't make a bit of difference. The House is the only thing standing between us and complete capitulation to socialism and the effective end of corporate government in the United States.

As I've patiently tried to explain, this is entirely inevitable. The predatory ponzi-scam nature of capitalism must of course find its final level of leveraged lies and so forth. DId you ever really think that a system which demands constant expansion of new markets can actually continue? For how long? I called it dead on, and despite radicals acting in my name--Lenin, Mao, Castro, etc.,--who tried, usually with disastrous results, to rush ahead with immediate socialism, my prediction has come true. Deal with it.

Oh, you're a fucking genius. Capitalism requires some form of morality were socialism requires none.

FUCK ME! HARDER!! HARDER!!

Jerk, you really don't get it. It wasn't quasi-socialists who assigned "AAA" staus to the junk-level sub-prime loan bundled bonds, or invented hedge funds, and "ghost futures" being ricocheted off of secret Cayman accounts, and "derivitives" that a physicist couldn't explain, or deregulation scams like those of Keating, Enron, Boesky, Milken, and a thousand other clever kleptocrats. To suggest that capitalism requires morality is a sure sign that you're going to flunk out of any business school or MBA program. Sure, a company can grow and make money with a wholesome and socially responsible business model...but only in the relatively short term.

As far as "socialism" is concerned, it has yet to enter the picture, let alone any serious discussion. It is not "socialism," after all, that has resulted in the catastrophic situation of the world economy.

Didn't Rusp Limpdick tell you this?

look douchebag, I know this whole socialist thing is a giant troll job but listening to your tedium \gets pretty tiring

how's about you provide me with an example of a successful socialistic experiment

Jerkovich wrote: Oh, you're a fucking genius. Capitalism requires some form of morality were socialism requires none. The vote for the 'bail out' is proof of that notion. The problem with this issue is that the socialist cunts that created this mess are not in prison for fraud, embezzlement, taking bribes, and violating the public trust and oath of office.

FUCK YOU!

Classic post - fucking classic. Thanks, Jerknic - I laughed pretty damn hard.

Felix wrote: how's about you provide me with an example of a successful socialistic experiment

The Soviet Union, People's republic of China, The DPRK, etc.

Poland and Albania were shit, but they're just pre-destined to be mongs anyway - BIG SHOCK.

Once you get past the fact that sixty gazillion/billion people were horribly murdered - you'll find a series of countries that were transformed from rural backwaters into modern industrial superpowers, where life expectency shot up, infant mortality dropped, full access to things like drinking water, full employment, full housing, the elimination of illiteracy, full access to medical care, etc. etc.

Not quite as important as a gleaming stock ticker that measures success in an abstact notion like money and banks that fall down and go boom, but hey