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This is a FASCINATING read....what's your opinion of what he says about YOUR team's owner(s)?

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Deece list although I'd rank Bud Adams lower. Dude probably doesn't know half his players names.

McNair would be ranked higher if the Texans had a couple of winning seasons.

I wipe my ass with his list.


Dan Snyder is the league's 3rd 'best' owner?

Bob McNair is 7th?


... and what Jack said about Bidwell and Davis.


Kill yourself, Michael ... 'Silver' ... asshole.



Thanks for the giggles, Paul.

Bill Ford isn't dead last. The list is flawed.

poptart wrote:Bob McNair is 7th?

Baiting 'tart?

McNair has managed somehow to generate the third most amount in sponsorship $$$. That is saying something considering the product.

poptart wrote:I wipe my ass with his list.

Why, because Dude was SPOT ON with his assessment of YOUR team's owner?

RevLimiter wrote:

poptart wrote:I wipe my ass with his list.

Why, because Dude was SPOT ON with his assessment of YOUR team's owner?

You should be more worried about your skidstain owner and his laughably pathetic failure to sign your #1 pick.


How's that 5 year plan to get the Super Bowl working out for your franchise again? Oh, thats right-you're literally in year fucking 20 of it.

Runps, perhaps I'm just hopelessly old-school.
You see, I think an owner has to put together a WINNING product in order to be recognized as a success.

Six years in and McNair has had 5 HORRIBLE losing season and one .500 season.
That's dogshit any way you spin it.
He's the 7th best owner in the league?? LMAO

Get the fuck OUT, dude.


When McNair managed to steal a franchise from the leauge when they were hell-bent on having a team in L.A. again, I thought he was going to be a GREAT owner.
But it hasn't happened.

Any other measuring sticks other than WINNING are so far secondary that they just simply doesn't rate.



jmo

RJ wrote:You should be more worried about your skidstain owner and his laughably pathetic failure to sign your #1 pick.

We've already signed our other 1st rounder (the one that REALLY needed to be in camp on time)- Dorsey can wait a week or two and still be OK. BTW. HALF of the other 1st rounders are still unsigned, you fucking dick.

How's that 5 year plan to get the Super Bowl working out for your franchise again? Oh, thats right-you're literally in year fucking 20 of it.

Gee, we've NEVER heard that before....

What do you expect from a freaking U.C. Berkeley grad who writes his tripe under a fake last name?

Grade-A douchenozzle, the guy is.

poptart wrote:Six years in and McNair has had 5 HORRIBLE losing season and one .500 season.
That's dogshit any way you spin it.
He's the 7th best owner in the league?? LMAO

So you put the onus on the owner if a team wins or lose. I had no idea you were this obtuse, tart.

Owner styles are so different and sometimes are put under a microscope for being too involved or too passive and cheap. McNair hired Casserly who was a proven GM and he hired Capers who took an expansion team to the NFC championship in two years. It didn't work out like before, but he hired the people with the most qualified background at the time. The Texans progessed every year their first three seasons and then collapsed. I can't say that was his fault. The coaches babied Carr, Casserly made some bad picks, and the team did not live up to its potential in 2005. McNair let them do their job and gave them a checkbook to do it with. The GM and Staff made bad choices and you think he is to blame for this? No fucking way. You know what he did next, he hired Reeves as a consultant and pushed all the garbage out. Hired Kubiak and Smith and now the Texans are within reach of their first playoff birth.

McNair has done everything he could do as a handsoff owner and has given this team hope just two seasons removed from a 2-14 record. He writes checks and lets the decision makers do the rest. Guys like Snyder and Jones have too big of ego to let that kind of thing go on. I commend McNair for doing what he has done and has made a profit out of it. First class owner IMO.

Rumps, I hear what you are saying and I understand your point(s).
And yes, Capers and Casserly looked like solid hires at the time.

But the bottom line is that they turned out to be ... not too solid.
If that is not on the owner, then who IS it on?

He hired 'em.

Look, if you want to be regarded as the 7th best owner in the NFL then at least show up with ONE winning season under your belt.
Good grief.

You've got to PROVE yourself, and McNair simply hasn't.

Over time, perhaps he will, I dunno.

RevLimiter wrote:

RJ wrote:You should be more worried about your skidstain owner and his laughably pathetic failure to sign your #1 pick.

We've already signed our other 1st rounder (the one that REALLY needed to be in camp on time)- Dorsey can wait a week or two and still be OK. BTW. HALF of the other 1st rounders are still unsigned, you fucking dick.

How's that 5 year plan to get the Super Bowl working out for your franchise again? Oh, thats right-you're literally in year fucking 20 of it.

Gee, we've NEVER heard that before....

Read it and weep you fucking loser RJ: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingc ... id=3506135" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

poptart wrote:What do you expect from a freaking U.C. Berkeley grad who writes his tripe under a fake last name?

Grade-A douchenozzle, the guy is.

...I call bull sh!t


sin, Micheal Weiner

RumpleForeskin wrote: Guys like Snyder and Jones have too big of ego to let that kind of thing go on.

Uh, last time I checked Jerry had three Super Bowl rings on his watch, and has his team poised for a run at a 4th. He put his ego in check long enough to let Parcells rebuild his team, and he drops cash at any point necessary.

I know you hate the Cowboys, Rumps, but give it a fucking rest.

RumpleForeskin wrote:So you put the onus on the owner if a team wins or lose.

Ever hear the expression "the buck stops here"?

No the owner is not responsible for wins and losses on a game by game basis, but over a five year period? He sure fucking is responsible.

Headhunter wrote:

I know you hate the Cowboys, Rumps, but give it a fucking rest.[/quote]

I never said I hated the Cowboys. I'm not a fan of the Cowboys or that city, but I don't root against them constantly like most Texan fans.

No the owner is not responsible for wins and losses on a game by game basis, but over a five year period? He sure fucking is responsible.

The first 3 years the Texans showed progression, so was McNair supposed to fire Capers and Casserly during that time? No fucking way. He would have been crucified.

Year One: 4-12. Not a bad start for an expansion franchise.
Year Two: 5-11. Okay, we would have like to see 6-10, but its still an improvement
Year Three: 7-9. Now we're getting somewhere. Couple of critical redzone fumbles away in a couple of games and the franchise would have had their first winning season.

How do you fire someone after they have improved every season? Hell, everyone was saying this was going to be a 4-5 year process for a playoff push. They were on the right track and then they shit the bed. McNair fired Capers and then he fired Casserly after the draft. He made the right move at the right time. I really don't know how any other owner could have handled it better.

The part you're missing...

The owner is culpable for the hires in the first place. How do you keep Charley Casserly from fucking up the draft? Don't hire him in the first place.

8. Denver Broncos – Pat Bowlen

I have to admit that made me laugh

Bowlen is a fucking joke

Isn't pretty much a guarantee that the worst owners on that list also have bad teams. There aren't many top teams with bad owners. Jacksonville is having an issue with Weaver and him wanting to unload the team but for the most part, you look at the best teams in the league, there is a good/dedicated owner in front of them.

Over here, Mr. Ford isn't really a bad guy, just a bad NFL owner. He makes bad business decisions with this football team...namely the hiring of a certain former Fox analyst and all-pro linebacker. Many LionFans believe, he's the reason holding them back but really all that needs to be done is the right people need to be put in place to run the everyday operation. He's not a very hands on owner...he just sticks with people he's buddies with but they aren't the right people to run his football team.

I wonder where this guy would fit in...

Rush to NFL judgment: Limbaugh interested in the Rams

Talk show host Rush Limbaugh would be an interested party if the St. Louis Rams were to come up for sale.

"The Rams would be a great team to have," Limbaugh told the St. Louis Business Journal last week. "I have a lot of friends in ownership in the NFL, and my desire to get involved has not been a secret."

Limbaugh, who has an eight-year deal with Premiere Radio Network and has an estimated worth of $300 million, grew up in Cape Girardeau, Mo.

Even with his wealth, Limbaugh knows that he would have to be creative with money to get the team.

"I have no debt whatsoever. This would require changing that," he said adding that owning a pro franchise has become a "billionaires' club."

Limbaugh's last connection to the NFL was when he was a commentator for ESPN. It was short-lived job as he resigned after making comments about Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb that some thought were racist.

The team is not currently for sale. However, owner Georgia Frontiere died earlier this year and her children have become majority owners.

Chip Rosenbloom said earlier this month that despite hiring a firm that specializes in sports investments, he is not considering putting the team on the market. However....

"It's the same as it's been," Rosenbloom told the St. Louis Dispatch. "If the right person at the time right time with the right price came, I suppose that you might sell your house, right? So, I don't say never. ... If we get a phone call today from somebody who says the right things, we would listen."

Fans at clanram.com are filling message boards with their comments on the conservative radio host becoming a team owner. They seem to care less for Limbaugh's political leanings than they do for his commitment to winning. Click here for their comments.



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mvscal wrote:

Diogenes wrote:"I have no debt whatsoever. This would require changing that," he said

More than just a little bit. This is not going to happen, unless he forms some kind of partnership.

Obviously. Not a fan of the guy, but I would love to see the circus that would ensue if he put it together.

And yes, he'd still be a better owner than Bidwell. But that isn't saying much.

Diogenes wrote:

mvscal wrote:

Diogenes wrote:"I have no debt whatsoever. This would require changing that," he said

More than just a little bit. This is not going to happen, unless he forms some kind of partnership.

Obviously. Not a fan of the guy, but I would love to see the circus that would ensue if he put it together.

And yes, he'd still be a better owner than Bidwell. But that isn't saying much.

Yeah, I’m sure they’d do real well with an all-white team.

Diogenes wrote:

mvscal wrote:

Diogenes wrote:"I have no debt whatsoever. This would require changing that," he said

More than just a little bit. This is not going to happen, unless he forms some kind of partnership.

Obviously. Not a fan of the guy, but I would love to see the circus that would ensue if he put it together.

And yes, he'd still be a better owner than Bidwell. But that isn't saying much.

He would have to give up his radio gig. No way the NFL wants that kind of a lightning rod as a majority owner. Now if he were to goin an ownership group with a minority stake, that would be a different story.

Diogenes wrote:he'd still be a better owner than Bidwell. But that isn't saying much.

Georgia Frontiere is still a better owner than Bidwell, and she's fucking dead!

Headhunter wrote:

Diogenes wrote:he'd still be a better owner than Bidwell. But that isn't saying much.

Georgia Frontiere is still a better owner than Bidwell, and she's fucking dead!

The longer she's dead the better she gets.

Hopefully Bill will copy her and improve his act ASAP.