An Interesting Editorial in Support of Obama

Ang · Post by **Ang** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:09 am

I thought this was fairly amazing since Caroline Kennedy, even though she is a scholar on so many things constitutional and political, has distanced herself from making any statement over the years on presidential politics.

The link for the original article is http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/27/opini ... dy.html?hp

Following is the text of it...

A President Like My Father

By CAROLINE KENNEDY
Published: January 27, 2008
OVER the years, I’ve been deeply moved by the people who’ve told me they wished they could feel inspired and hopeful about America the way people did when my father was president. This sense is even more profound today. That is why I am supporting a presidential candidate in the Democratic primaries, Barack Obama.

My reasons are patriotic, political and personal, and the three are intertwined. All my life, people have told me that my father changed their lives, that they got involved in public service or politics because he asked them to. And the generation he inspired has passed that spirit on to its children. I meet young people who were born long after John F. Kennedy was president, yet who ask me how to live out his ideals.

Sometimes it takes a while to recognize that someone has a special ability to get us to believe in ourselves, to tie that belief to our highest ideals and imagine that together we can do great things. In those rare moments, when such a person comes along, we need to put aside our plans and reach for what we know is possible.

We have that kind of opportunity with Senator Obama. It isn’t that the other candidates are not experienced or knowledgeable. But this year, that may not be enough. We need a change in the leadership of this country — just as we did in 1960.

Most of us would prefer to base our voting decision on policy differences. However, the candidates’ goals are similar. They have all laid out detailed plans on everything from strengthening our middle class to investing in early childhood education. So qualities of leadership, character and judgment play a larger role than usual.

Senator Obama has demonstrated these qualities throughout his more than two decades of public service, not just in the United States Senate but in Illinois, where he helped turn around struggling communities, taught constitutional law and was an elected state official for eight years. And Senator Obama is showing the same qualities today. He has built a movement that is changing the face of politics in this country, and he has demonstrated a special gift for inspiring young people — known for a willingness to volunteer, but an aversion to politics — to become engaged in the political process.

I have spent the past five years working in the New York City public schools and have three teenage children of my own. There is a generation coming of age that is hopeful, hard-working, innovative and imaginative. But too many of them are also hopeless, defeated and disengaged. As parents, we have a responsibility to help our children to believe in themselves and in their power to shape their future. Senator Obama is inspiring my children, my parents’ grandchildren, with that sense of possibility.

Senator Obama is running a dignified and honest campaign. He has spoken eloquently about the role of faith in his life, and opened a window into his character in two compelling books. And when it comes to judgment, Barack Obama made the right call on the most important issue of our time by opposing the war in Iraq from the beginning.

I want a president who understands that his responsibility is to articulate a vision and encourage others to achieve it; who holds himself, and those around him, to the highest ethical standards; who appeals to the hopes of those who still believe in the American Dream, and those around the world who still believe in the American ideal; and who can lift our spirits, and make us believe again that our country needs every one of us to get involved.

I have never had a president who inspired me the way people tell me that my father inspired them. But for the first time, I believe I have found the man who could be that president — not just for me, but for a new generation of Americans.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:45 pm

JFK was a fucking DISASTER of a president, btw.

Only thing that prevented him from going down in history as Worst American President up until that time was Lee Harvey Oswald. Carter would still have taken that trophy away when he got the chance though.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:04 pm

Cuda wrote:JFK was a fucking DISASTER of a president, btw.

Only thing that prevented him from going down in history as Worst American President up until that time was Lee Harvey Oswald. Carter would still have taken that trophy away when he got the chance though.

Not only that, but his daddy's Mafia buddies stole that election for him. And if he would have survived, Goldwater would have trounced his ass. Johnson only won due to national sympathy.

On the other hand, props to Caroline for trying to play Van Helsing to the bloodsucking Clintons.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:34 pm

mvscal wrote:If Obama wasn't a n...igger, nobody would even know who that vacuous, lightweight bit of fluff is. He gives empty suits a bad name. Poor dumb bastard is about to get buttfucked eight ways from Sunday by the Clinton machine, though.

Getcha popcorn.

The only reason he's in the Senate to begin with is because Ryan's sealed divorce documents were leaked to the press for political reasons (against his ex-wife's wishes, BTW).

Terry in Crapchester · Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:57 pm

Diogenes wrote:The only reason he's in the Senate to begin with is because wet-brained fucktard Ryan's sealed divorce documents were leaked to the press for political reasons (against his ex-wife's wishes, BTW).

Weren't you one of the ones who said Alan Keyes would wipe the floor with Obama?

Wishful thinking, then and now.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:01 pm

Terry in Crapchester wrote:
Diogenes wrote:The only reason he's in the Senate to begin with is because Ryan's sealed divorce documents were leaked to the press for political reasons (against his ex-wife's wishes, BTW).
Weren't you one of the ones who said Alan Keyes would wipe the floor with Obama?

No. But Ryan would have.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:13 pm

mvscal wrote:Poor dumb bastard is about to get buttfucked eight ways from Sunday by the Clinton machine, though.

Really?

Well, somebody threw a monkey wrench in that well oiled machine in S. Carolina, then.

I wouldn't dismiss Obama so summarily. He's getting key endorsements from a lot of key dem power brokers. Frankly, he's got a much better chance of winning in the general election than Billary does, and dem voters are starting to realize that fact.

The GOP's most fervent wish is that Clitnon be nominated.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:45 pm

25% of white voters my work in SC, but come February 5 Osama is in deep shit.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:44 pm

mvscal wrote:If Obama wasn't a n...igger, nobody would even know who that vacuous, lightweight bit of fluff is. He gives empty suits a bad name. Poor dumb bastard is about to get buttfucked eight ways from Sunday by the Clinton machine, though.

Getcha popcorn.

What's the over/under on one of the Clintons dropping a N-Bomb & getting away with it?

Yo, Jigaboos... you want to know the real reason Hillary wants open borders?

It's because if they can get enough wetbacks registered to vote, the DemocRat party won't need your blacvk asses anymore.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:59 am

mvscal wrote:If Obama wasn't a n...igger, nobody would even know who that vacuous, lightweight bit of fluff is. He gives empty suits a bad name. Poor dumb bastard is about to get buttfucked eight ways from Sunday by the Clinton machine, though.

Getcha popcorn.

That "vacuous, lightweight bit of fluff" just went toe to toe with the best politician of the television age and wiped the floor with him.

Getcha popcorn indeed.

Dr_Phibes · Post by **Dr_Phibes** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:05 am

I think B just put his beret back on the hatrack.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:07 am

BSmack wrote:
mvscal wrote:If Obama wasn't a n...igger, nobody would even know who that vacuous, lightweight bit of fluff is. He gives empty suits a bad name. Poor dumb bastard is about to get buttfucked eight ways from Sunday by the Clinton machine, though.

Getcha popcorn.
That "vacuous, lightweight bit of fluff" just went toe to toe with the best politician of the television age and wiped the floor with him.

Actually he's been trying to convince people he's the new Reagan.

Funny Shit.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:13 am

Diogenes wrote:Actually he's been trying to convince people he's the new Reagan.

Not exactly. But feel free to sip on that Romney Kool-Aid.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:37 am

BSmack wrote:
Diogenes wrote:Actually he's been trying to convince people he's the new Reagan.
Not exactly. But feel free to sip on that Romney Kool-Aid.

He's closer to Reagan than anyone else running.

Come November, you might want to avoid high places and sharp objects.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:23 am

Diogenes wrote:
BSmack wrote:Not exactly. But feel free to sip on that Romney Kool-Aid.
He's closer to Reagan than anyone else running.

Come November, you might want to avoid high places and sharp objects.

Just like the French you Republicans are. You know, fighting the last war instead of the current one.

The old Reagan coalition is dead. It remains to be seen whether either party can fashion a new majority. But I can assure you that Romney's appeals to the old coalition will fall on deaf ears.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:41 am

BSmack wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
BSmack wrote:Not exactly. But feel free to sip on that Romney Kool-Aid.
He's closer to Reagan than anyone else running.

Come November, you might want to avoid high places and sharp objects.
Just like the French you Republicans are. You know, fighting the last war instead of the current one.

...says the party trying to recycle the Clintonistas.

Epic.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:45 am

Diogenes wrote:...says the party trying to recycle the Clintonistas.

Obama thrashing Hillary 2-1 out front should have told you different.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:04 am

BSmack wrote:
Diogenes wrote:...says the party trying to recycle the Clintonistas.
Obama thrashing Hillary 2-1 out front should have told you different.

Diogenes wrote:25% of white voters my work in SC, but come February 5 Osama is in deep shit.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:43 pm

Dude types some nonsensical affront to the language... and then sees fit to quote himself doing it?

Priceless bit of tardism.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:16 pm

Dinsdale wrote:

STFU, twinkie.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:23 pm

Then of course follows up with some insight into his "logic" --

If Dio is an idiot, it obviously means that everyone else is an ankle-biter.

More genius from the biggest dumbass this board has ever seen.

Dr_Phibes · Post by **Dr_Phibes** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:37 pm

an unusual lack of drama from dio in this thread though, no mention of Hitler, Petain or Chamberlain.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:41 pm

Dr_Phibes wrote:no mention of Hitler, Petain or Chamberlain.

He's still struggling with the "i before e" thing... give him time.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:46 pm

Dinsdale wrote:If Dio is an idiot, it obviously means that everyone else is an ankle-biter.

Having some drooling simpleton who hasn't a clue what I'm saying refer to me as an 'idiot'...

Shocking.

And I never said everyone is an ankle-biter. Just the silly little takeless bitches who follow me around like a spurned teenage girl.

That would be you, loser.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:14 pm

Diogenes wrote:
That would be you, loser.

Uhhhhm....

No.

I'm the guy who's bitched to the admins about your posts still appearing on my screen. And if they're going to appear, they're going to be ridiculed.

And you know why I'm going to ridicule them?

Because you're a fucking moron, and you volunteer for that duty every time you post.

Fucking idiot.

Ang · Post by **Ang** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:29 am

BSmack

Getcha popcorn indeed.

I've never really followed the Democrat nominating process at all, because in former years it was a class of clowns. In my years of voting, there was always at least one Republican or Libertarian who was saying what needed to be done in this country. This time, I'm looking around and thinking...is this it? The Republicans are the class of clowns this time. They all want the job simply because it is the next expected position on their resume, but have no heart for it. I really think it will be Obama or Hillary, and if I have to take my choice between the two, I will vote for the idealistic less experienced guy who will have good ideas and better advisors instead of the dirty politic, been there done that but it wasn't really me Hillary.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:09 pm

mvscal wrote:
Ang wrote:I will vote for the idealistic less experienced guy who will have good ideas and better advisors instead of the dirty politic, been there done that but it wasn't really me Hillary.
Why don't you go ahead and link us up to all these "good ideas", idiot.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You were saying?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:02 pm

mvscal wrote:Still waiting on those good ideas. Save the horseshit boilerplate.

There's fucking reams of ideas and positions there for you to pick apart. Just because you're too lazy to read them doesn't mean they're not there.

He favors energy independence? Really? He voted to drill in ANWAR? Didn't think so.

Next...

There's more oil in North Dakota than ANWAR. Tell me you knew?

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:26 pm

BSmack wrote:There's more oil in North Dakota than ANWAR. Tell me you knew?

And who gets to suck it out of the ground?

Is it any American who wants to?

Is it on some sort of competitive basis?

Why, of course not. Raytheon gets to. Big Oil gets to.

Nice of the Traitor to remove free-markets even further from Americans.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:01 pm

mvscal wrote:"Big Oil" gets to because that is what they do, you brainless fucking tard.

Really? I didn't realize that the big oil companies had begun meaningful production in the shale reserves.

Wanna hook a brother up with a link?

Oh, wait... no link, because that's not the case.

So, why did you fell the need to LIE when making a case against the free market?

Because extracting shale oil very clkeary ISN'T what Big Oil does... but since Big Oil owns Congress, it's something they're GOING to do -- to make sure there's as little competition as possible, and the American Consumer gets hosed.

There's nothing stopping you from starting your own oil company.

Educate yourself, you glaringly ignorant dumbfuck.

Monumentally ignorant.

You do nothing but whimper and cry about socialists and communists out one side of your mouth and then scream about corporations out the other.

Why yes -- it's like communism, only worse. When certain coroporations are favored by the government over others, the free market and the American People suffer... tell me you knew?

Big Government has closed certain industried down to competition. Yet Big Government uses tax dollars to prop up those same industries. WORSE than communism.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:41 pm

mvscal wrote:That would be because there isn't (currently) an energy efficient and cost effective method of extracting fuel from oil shale on a large scale.

Big breakthrough announced in the last few days, tard.

It wasn't Shell, it was Raytheon, tard.

And take a big fucking guess what, tard?

The government paid them to do the research... because obviously the ability to tap into the world's largest oil reserve wasn't motivation enough.

You and I aren't allowed to do research or experimentation in the shale reserves. Period. Lie and spin all you like, but that is the truth.

So, free market economics have been completely removed from the next era of oil production by Big Government, just like it was from the last phase, and has been for 80 years.

Because certain people have bought Congress -- that's the point, dumbfuck.

Time to start string up some traitors, and make them pay for their crimes with their lives -- that should slow the corruption a little.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:01 pm

mvscal wrote:You and I aren't qualified to do research or experimentation in the shale reserves. Period.

Why do you hate any semblance of logic, you tard?

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:40 pm

B-Monica wrote:
There's more oil in North Dakota than ANWAR.

There's more oil in Canada than anywhere but Saudi Arabia.

We could & should just TAKE it.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:00 pm

Cuda wrote: There's more oil in Canada than anywhere but Saudi Arabia.

We could & should just TAKE it.

Are you fucking nuts?

We tried that with Iraq, and the relatively civil people there are still going apeshit.

Can you imagine if the canatards got their panties in a bunch? They'd make a bunch of shitty beer and continue playing their chicksprt known as hockey in protest, I'm sure. And if the civilian casualties were too high (oxymoron in my book), they might protest by having Bryan Adams make another album... is that really what you want?

BTW -- there's more oil (shale) in Colorado than the entire Middle East-btw.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:18 pm

There ain't but a couple dozen actual Canadians, Dins- a hundred at most. We could have all of Canadia in just a few months.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:38 pm

Your soldiers will switch sides and join our ferocious resistance when they see how good we have it up here.

"American soldiers! Workers and labourers who toil under the capitalist yoke...Join us in our Great Patriotic Struggle!
If you cross through No Man's Land, we guarantee you safety and a prosperous life in our future anarcho-socialist utopia!
Bring your weapons with you and surrender to the nearest Canuck Resistance units. You will be treated with respect and dignity. (Sorry, officers, like all running dog imperialist stooges will be shot. Rules is rules...)

Why do you want to fight us? We are brothers and sisters in the same struggle! We CAN unite and fight the greater enemy, namely the vulture capitalist parasites that drink our blood and steal bread from the mouths of our children!

U.S.A + Canada = North American Socialist People's Workers State

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:42 pm

^^^^^^^^^^^

...something like this...

titlover · Post by **titlover** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:12 pm

Martyred wrote:

^^^^^^^^^^^

...something like this...

a wet dream on a poster. nice.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:55 am

shale oil recovery was invented in the U&L, ya know.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:00 am

After reading a bit of that site I think I'd actually prefer hitlery.

God, what a fukking tard.