I've written off all Muslims

[SPD]

25-30% of all human atrocities are committed by Muslims

The other 70-75% goes to the Hindus, or are the Buddists involved?

[The Seer]

Not only are some of you redneck bigots, you're not very good at math, either.

OK, see if you can follow --

Some where between 25-30% of the earth's population are Muslim, give or take a few.

So, simple fucking logic (uh-oh, I just lost most of you) dictates that

A) 85-90% of all human atrocities are committed by Muslims



Think hard now, einsteins.


I guess those 4 abortion clinic bombers are Muslims in your world too, right?

[Mikey]

Isn't this thread against the law now?

[BSmack]

I see Chimpy is busy slurping cock.

At the same time, Bush admonished the press that its freedom comes with "the responsibility to be thoughtful about others."

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060208/D8FL5C1O4.html

Shit, is that what Bush told Rove when he was push polling Republicans in South Carolina calling McCain "pro-abortion” and “the fag candidate”?

[Van]

Point 1: Only a very small minority of Muslims are behaving like animals.

Point 2: The vast, vast majority of Muslims are peaceful and civilized and they look down upon the violence spread in their name.

Fine. The few are ruining it for the many.

No, not really. It's not fine at all. If it's just the few who are doing it then the many should have no problem whatsoever in culling the herd.

Case in point: Massive uproar over a cartoon printed a world away, in a country which espouses freedom of the press. This same country also regularly sees its own religion lampooned daily in print, and all over the airwaves.

Par for the course.

Now, if the point of the protesters is that Islam is being defamed then where is the far greater protest that obviously ought to ensue when insane murderers corrupt and pervert their beloved religion in order to kill in the name of that self same target of lampooning...Muhummad?

Dunno about the rest of you but I'd be a helluva lot more pissed that someone was literally taking my lord's name in vain and using that name to commit murder in direct violation of my lord's stated will then I'd ever be over some newspaper cartoonist merely drawing a picture of.....

.....the exact truth, as exemplified by those bad apples killing innocent people...in Muhammad's name.

Basically, it's amazing how worked up and motivated they can get over something as trivial as a newspaper cartoon. However, when their entire religion is being thrown under the bus in real terms and with real actions, where's the equivalent outrage?

1.8 billion Muslims, and they can't find it within themselves to get at least equally riled up at those supposed "few bad apples" who are doing the real work of perverting and destroying their religion all around the globe?

Sounds like tacit approval to me. 1.8 billion self righteous and thoroughly pissed off Muslims could easily rein in the perverters of their religion. That is, if they truly felt that their religion was being misrepresented by these murderers. Actions speak a lot louder than words and the only actions and the only words that are carrying any lasting weight in the Muslim world are the deeds and words of the supposed few...

The braying silence of the rest of Muslim world is speaking volumes.

So, what is it? Either the Muslim world approves of all this violence in their name, or they're don't, in which case they're simply cowards. They can get all fired up over a cartoon, but they can't be bothered to come out and demonstrate with at least an equal passion against heretics who claim to be acting in the name of their God?

Murder being absolutely abhorrent to the Muslim religion, dontchaknow...

One or the other: Approval, or cowardice. Which is it?

[Moving Sale]

Van,

Dins has already address your winded concern. He has properly laid out YOUR burden to show a duty on the part of the other Muslims to 'step up.'

Don't worry your vapid little dome trying to form a duty in this case... it doesn't exist.

Thanx for playing "Who's a Bigot?" You 'won'. The next round is the 'white sheet' round. Care to play?

[Diogenes]

25-30% of all human atrocities are committed by Muslims

The other 70-75% goes to the Hindus, or are the Buddists involved?

Actually the atheists are still king of the hill.

And that's just counting North Korea.

[Gunslinger]

25-30% of all human atrocities are committed by Muslims

The other 70-75% goes to the Hindus, or are the Buddists involved?

Actually the atheists are still king of the hill.

And that's just counting North Korea.

North Koreans are killing at an astronomical rate?

FUCK Africa, lets invade N. Korea. Oh, me forgets our president is a fucking pussy.

[Moving Sale]

Oh, me forgets our president is fucking pussy.

FTFY

Sin,
1992-2000

[Diogenes]

Still a fucking moron.

It's a war on international terrorism, not asshole dictators whacking their own citizens.

[Gunslinger]

Still a fucking moron.

It's a war on international terrorism, not asshole dictators whacking their own citizens.

And there is a difference? What kind of culture that is led by dictators is a culture that promotes tolerence? Or one that will show signs of tolerence down the road? Wasn't that the whole fucking reason our forefathers overthrew tyranny 200 years ago?

Isn't that the reason I continue to punish and abuse you to this very day? Now I know this answer, it's because you are an uncreative dumbfuck that only knows how to change his sig and avatar. Go back to your republican funding posting career and tell them you have fucking failed miserably and the homeland is going to be conquered, because of your fuck ups. You so desperately want a dictator, yet us peace fucks keep getting in your way.

I apologize for that and gladly accept your acknowledgement that you have been worshipping a dictorship fuck for the last 6 years. I apologize that Saudi Arabi killed 3,000 americans on 911. Under your enlightenment I will continue to back the failings of your president to the very end, because it is cool to be led like Iran and Iraq to the depths of hell.

I didn't realize democracy was such a cluster fuck. I didn't realize N. Korea with nukes is a good thing. I didn't realize Iran with nukes is a good thing. Now that we have no military, please enlighten me on how to solve the problems of the 20th century.

[tough love]

Good read, Van.

The tree can be judged by it's fruit.
At this time; Islam is a religion which fosters hate.

What hurts their poser religion more? Seeing silly cartoons, or hateful muslim mobs screaming for the slaughter of anyone who does not think like them?

Love Love Love
Love is all you need.

Knock on Christianity all you want, still those who truely follow Christ would never knowingly do harm to another.

Praise the Lord by loving your Paradise Father...Do Gods will on earth and eternal peace in the Masters house is yours...It's just that simple.

What is True Christianity?

Jesus Said:
You shall love one another with a new and startling affection, even as I have loved you. You will serve mankind with a new and amazing devotion, even as I have served you. And when men see you so love them, and when they behold how fervently you serve them, they will perceive that you have become faith-fellows of the kingdom of heaven, and they will follow after the Spirit of Truth which they see in your lives, to the finding of eternal salvation.

Or Not, it's your call.

Tick Tock

[BSmack]

Very peaceful. Very peaceful.

[PSUFAN]

How about the Muslim leaders who have come out as recently as today condemning the violent protests, and stating that it is against Islamic principles to commit violent acts of protest?

They are more commonly known as liars.

What's this foolishness? For years you've been asking to be shown muslims that denounce the barbarism of radical Islam. Presented with it, you balk.

What an unsavoury deflection.

[Goober McTuber]

How about the Muslim leaders who have come out as recently as today condemning the violent protests, and stating that it is against Islamic principles to commit violent acts of protest?

They are more commonly known as liars.

What's this foolishness? For years you've been asking to be shown muslims that denounce the barbarism of radical Islam. Presented with it, you balk.

What an unsavoury deflection.

It is more commonly known as trolling.

[Atomic Punk]

88, you'll find it useless to argue or even answer the ultimate tard. He'll melt and write the most bizarre shit imaginable. Just wait for another hour and he'll respond with something pretty stupid.

tick tock

[Van]

TVO, try again.

If you are that protective of your religion then you attempt to curb attacks against it. People who use your religion as a shield to commit violence that is forbidden by your religion are heretics. Those people would be at the top of your "Things To Do..." list, and they'd certainly be higher on that list than obscure newspaper cartoonists in Denmark.

Also, don't try and tell me that only the fanatics are protective of their religion. While not every Islamic cleric and international scholar took part in the rioting and killing they all did condemn the cartoons and they all did take part in decrying "...the continued attacks against Islam by the western world..."

Plane trips were scheduled, summits were held and hands were wrung.

Moreover, apologies were demanded.

Now, where are those demands for apologies when people blow up innocents? Where are the clerics rising up and saying, "No! You do NOT speak for us! You are an abomination of Islam and I implore all followers of Islam to rise up against you!"?

Can't have it both ways.

[The Seer]

How about the Muslim leaders who have come out as recently as today condemning the violent protests, and stating that it is against Islamic principles to commit violent acts of protest?

They are more commonly known as liars.

What's this foolishness? For years you've been asking to be shown enough muslims that will denounce the barbarism of radical Islam to an extent that their voices will be heard, and the radicals will no longer be viewed as the majority, and the ugliness that is now islam can be viewed as merely a spike in the twisted history of fanaticism... Presented with it, you balk.

What an unsavoury deflection.

[PSUFAN]

Hey, I'm with it. Here's hoping.

[Cicero]

Those cuddly Muslims at it again

"death to America, death to Israel"

[BSmack]

This pretty much sums up the attitude most normal people see emanating from Islam.

We are a nation that can’t forgive, be silent or ease up when they insult our prophet and our sacred values.

Sheik Hassan Nasrallah

Fuck your sacred values.

[PSUFAN]

OK. So...now what is to be done? Aren't we all trying to "do something" about it?

Are they going to snap their fingers and make it come to an end?

[Cuda]

This pretty much sums up the attitude most normal people see emanating from Islam.

We are a nation that can’t forgive, be silent or ease up when they insult our prophet and our sacred values.

Sheik Hassan Nasrallah

Fuck your sacred values.

Sacred Values?

Near as I can tell, their Sacred Values consist of rioting, cutting off heads, & setting off bombs in crowds of people

[Goober McTuber]

Near as I can tell, your Sacred Values consist of ankle-biting attacks on known tards, sucking up to Biggie, and Blondiebabe resets.

[BSmack]

OK. So...now what is to be done? Aren't we all trying to "do something" about it?

Are they going to snap their fingers and make it come to an end?

They could start by excommunicating these alleged "heretics" and denying them access to the shrines in Mecca and Jerusalem.

That would be a good start.

[PSUFAN]

How do you excommunicate a Muslim? They don't take communion.

[Cuda]

Near as I can tell, your Sacred Values consist of ankle-biting attacks on known tards, sucking up to Biggie, and Blondiebabe resets.

And your point is...?

[BSmack]

How do you excommunicate a Muslim? They don't take communion.

Does this help?

The practice of takfir in Islam was the declaration that a Muslim (whether a convert or a born Muslim) had ceased being a Muslim and had departed into unbelief (had become a ka:fir) by virtue of some belief that he or she held or by virtue of corrupt behavior (fisq). Muslim jurisprudents or mujtahids occasionally gave rulings or fatwas that such and such a person had departed from Islam into unbelief, though the lack of centralization in most Muslim law and most times meant that this was sometimes an isolated opinion with little force. Baraghani issued a fatwa of takfir against Shaykh Ahmad al-Ahsa'i, for instance.

http://bahai-library.com/uhj/takfir.html

[Goober McTuber]

Near as I can tell, your Sacred Values consist of ankle-biting attacks on known tards, sucking up to Biggie, and Blondiebabe resets.

And your point is...?

Just pointing out that you suck. Please forgive me for overstating the obvious.

[Van]

PSU, since most everything the radical Islamics do is cloaked in righteous religious indignation I don't think it'd be too much of a stretch to drum up sentiment against them....starting with the clerics who give the fanatics their imprimatur.

If all the imams and the sheiks and even the secular leaders were constantly on the warpath against these people, ie, constantly exhorting the lemming crowds to protest and rally against these blasphemers who desecrate Islam with their violent actions in the name of Muhammad, well...

I think you get the picture. No such outcry is occuring from those who truly wield the power to change public opinion. That's where it would begin and end if that's how the religious elders really saw things that way.

Obviously, by and large, they don't see things that way and so the fanatics continue on, uncensored, unabated...

[RadioFan]

Here's a real shocker ...

A terrorist leader wants censorship laws.

Nasrallah, a black-turbaned, bearded cleric, demanded an apology for the cartoons and laws to prevent a repetition.

"There can be no settlement before an apology and there can be no settlement before laws are legislated by the European Parliament and the parliaments of European countries," he said.

Islamic nations should demand "a law committing the press and the media in the West that proscribes insulting our prophet. If this matter cannot be achieved that means they (West) insist on continuing this," he added.

Yeah, like that's going to happen.

Nasrallah said that if the controversy touched on Jews or Israel the West would have reacted differently and quickly.

Not only fanatical, but incredibly stupid this shitstain is.

[Van]

Turn on any comedy show and that's all you'll see: People ripping Christ, or the Jews, or even Islam. It's as common as dirt in our culture.

Why they're freaking out so badly over this one little innocuous cartoon buried in some obscure Danish paper is beyond me.

Don't they know about South Park?? :-)

[Mister Bushice]

It'll be interesting to see how muslims will react when the Jews and Christians DON'T riot and kill after they publish their holocaust cartoons.

I'm sure they'll come up with some excuse or reason, but if it doesn't happen there isn't one.

I hope that American papers do publish the holocaust ones just to show those assholes that civilized people don't commit violence and murder over cartoon images.

[Van]

Why they're freaking out so badly over this one little innocuous cartoon buried in some obscure Danish paper is beyond me.

Because they are primitive, sub-human cretins who are hell bent on war with the West.

This is the just the latest jihad in a conflict that stretches back over a thousand years.

Still, why this one?

That cartoon was NOTHING compared to the religious mockery we see every day in our culture. I'm just surprised they freaked out so badly over that one when there's always been so much worse out there over which they could get their panties in a wad...

Anyway, regarding the Christian reaction, I'm pretty sure idolatry is also verboten in the Catholic church.

Buddy Christ, anybody?

Far as I can tell no embassies were ever burned over 'necks sportin' Buddy Christ in their pick 'em up trucks and that's clearly an affront to diehard Catholics...

[Mikey]

You'd think that rabbits might jihad over something like this.

[BSmack]

You'd think that rabbits might jihad over something like this.

Thanks for nothing Warner Brothers. Now I have a vision of Cinder in a Bugs Bunny costume that is making me want to tear out my eyes.

[Moorese]

Last night a friend and I hit a nearby pub for some end of the day suds. As we were sitting at the bar, a mid-twenties moneygrubbing bitch with an unbelievably choice dumper walked by on the way to the restroom. My friend remarked that he'd like to "pack that back." I agreed in that I mentioned that I too would like to "pack that back." As we continued to drink and discuss backpacking, it became clear that we disagreed as to what activity constitutes backpacking. My friend wanted to engage in anal sex with the young trim whilst I wanted to obstruct and indeed redirect the flow of vomit from the lovely girl's mouth as I choked her with my ginormous BOING. We had a good laugh over our cultural differences, and agreed that if we could see eye to eye on such things, there's really no reason why Muslims and Chrisitians cannot get along.

[Van]

Mv, I just love that they're trying to bully open western societies into censorship, just for them.

I love it, but not nearly as much as the fact that this cartoon is absolutely tame compared to the derision heaped on Islam and Muhammad all over the world in countless spoofs, parodies, cartoons and stand up bits.

Pretty sure that just in the last week or two on Comedy Central I've seen far worse than a mere single picture cartoon of Muhammad with a lit bomb for a turban.

Hell, we've all been witness to depictions of Muhammad getting assfucked by everything under the sun, from Warren Sapp to Dubya, and these blockheads are freaking out over this little nothing of a cartoon...

Best of all though is that by rioting and threatening kidnappings and killings and such over that cartoon they're simply proving the truth depicted in the cartoon.

The first reaction is always threats and violence, and the Islamic leaders do nothing to prevent that reaction. If anything they encourage it...

If I were a peace loving Muslim (oh shaddup) I'd be absolutely embarrassed for my religion and what's becoming of it.

Oh, and as always, there's Moorese with his uniquely killer perspective on things. :D

[Mister Bushice]

Last night a friend and I hit a nearby pub for some end of the day suds. As we were sitting at the bar, a mid-twenties moneygrubbing bitch with an unbelievably choice dumper walked by on the way to the restroom. My friend remarked that he'd like to "pack that back." I agreed in that I mentioned that I too would like to "pack that back." As we continued to drink and discuss backpacking, it became clear that we disagreed as to what activity constitutes backpacking. My friend wanted to engage in anal sex with the young trim whilst I wanted to obstruct and indeed redirect the flow of vomit from the lovely girl's mouth as I choked her with my ginormous BOING. We had a good laugh over our cultural differences, and agreed that if we could see eye to eye on such things, there's really no reason why Muslims and Chrisitians cannot get along.

If he goes back door and you take the front porch entry at the same time, you would be seeing eye to eye.

[Mikey]

RACK Van.

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