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I've read existing polls show Sanders beats Trump but Trump would beat Clinton

Dr_Phibes wrote:I've read existing polls show Sanders beats Trump but Trump would beat Clinton

I could see that. There are liberals who, if presented with a 2 candidate scenario involving Hillary and Trump that would go with Trump just to fuck the moderates who have been selling us out. I'm not one of them yet.

There are a hell of a lot of Bernie supporters who will vote for Trump given a Trump/Hillary option. I know a few personally. They absolutely fukking loathe that miserable cunt. Also, Trump and the Bern share a few views. Both are for protectionist trade policy and both want to burn the entire DC establishment to the fukking ground. Fukk, maybe the D would pick Bernie as a running mate just to ensure complete destruction of the DC republicrat machine.

Trump v. Clinton
Not only is it an election question, but a matter of who will be indicted first...

After Hilary gets indicted the super-delegates will slide uncle Joe into the Dem slot.

mvscal wrote:Really.

Really, what? Give us one actual plan or program that Trump has even hinted at, let alone anything that might actually make sense--or have any legality. Just like Trump, babs, you just mutter little smirks and broad hollow insults...but neither he nor you can offer a single detailed plan for anything.

But you know who can and does, and has for years, and is now ready to actually bring about a real positive populist chnge of this utterly foul and failed neo-liberal Capitalist cancer..??..

Bernie...sure, he's not perfect, but he's so far beyond Hillary or any of the loon GOP malignancies, or the ludicrous hologram of Trump...

And fuck Henry Kissinger, that international war criminal..

Rack 88!

LTS TRN 2 wrote:

mvscal wrote:Really.

Really, what? Give us one actual plan or program that Trump has even hinted at, let alone anything that might actually make sense--or have any legality.

Both his trade and immigration plans make sense, will benefit American workers and businesses and are, of course, completely legal as is his plan to put the brakes on importing koranimals until and unless we can determine who these worthless maggots really are.

But he hasn't described any sort of trade plan at all, besides making a few off the cuff remarks that he "won't allow" American companies to leave and horde their profits offshore. But there's nothing whatsoever in these few simple utterances to suggest how he could do this. And as for his immigration plan, it's the same--no actual plans at all besides proposing a "beautiful" wall on the Mexican border, and some kind of (completely illegal) ban on all Muslims. It's so childish and hollow that no one can really say anything about it. And of course all you can do is to simplify it further. Now let's talk about Trump in a very clear and detailed manner in assessing his actual ability to "fix" things. And that is the subject of Atlantic City, the main focus of the Donald's vision and drive for Great Success. Basically the entire city/casino resort is on the verge of a bankruptcy/takeover by the state government, and that includes Trump's huge gambles on the boardwalk, his Taj Mahal and Trump Plaza. So, it's a perfect test case for Trump to deal with the "ruthless billionaires" (or whatever your silly image was) and actually impose his will and expertise to find a solid and prosperous solution. Otherwise, if he just ignores it and won't address the issues at all, well then it's pretty obvious that he is a total fraud with no qualifications for public office, let alone the presidency.

And where are his tax returns? Is he hiding them because he's actually almost broke--and hasn't paid any tax in the first place/ And what's his "plan" on tax reform? Is he just marching along with the Kansas suicide model?


As for SS's auto-Koch brothers response, the facts of paid shill scientists in the Denial groups is plain and detailed. Grow up.

LTS TRN 2 wrote:But he hasn't described any sort of trade plan at all, besides making a few off the cuff remarks that he "won't allow" American companies to leave and horde their profits offshore. But there's nothing whatsoever in these few simple utterances to suggest how he could do this.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/ ... ade-reform

And as for his immigration plan, it's the same--no actual plans at all

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/ ... ion-reform

some kind of (completely illegal) ban on all Muslims.

Nothing illegal about it at all. The President has the specific statutory authority to exclude anybody or any group of people for any reason. It's something that sovereign nations are able to do.

So, once again, here you are...wrong and totally clueless.

These are ideas which are not original at all. The current administration has made all of of these charges against China--and more. The question which remains unanswered--or even addressed--in the breezy and simplistic "Trump Positions" is just how he's going to force China to negotiate differently, or for that matter rein in their blatant market manipulation and theft. He seems to willfully ignore the fact that China has been buying out debt for decades, and if they choose to stop, we're fucked. Oh yeah, that. And...how does he propose to stop China from having sweat shops and low wages? Huh? It's just simplistic nice-sounding nonsense to placate the rubes--like you, you tedious cowering racist fraud.

What's clear and plainly stated, however, is Trump's complete willingness to continue the unprecedented military expansion, insuring the Permanent War's steady drone.

As for forcing Mexico to pay for the wall, this is more breezy lunacy, especially since some many huge American corporations have set up their manufacturing there. Obama in fact has deported far more illegals than any other administration, but of course he's a Socialist Muslim crypto-terrorist, right?

As for the president's authority to simply ban a group as broad as "Muslim" from entering the U.S., where do you spin these weird theories? I know you pant in anticipation at a genuine return to fascist authority, but let's get back to Atlantic City--which you, like Trump--are in some squirming denial about. The Donald's bright and brazen (and extremely expensive and leveraged) ventures on the boardwalk are about to get swallowed in a bankruptcy takeover. What's he going to do about it? Something big and bold, right? He'll negotiate with his high intelligence and shrewd skill and "fix" things, right?

Vincente Fox just upped the smack quotient. Can't wait to see this twitter battle.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... _wall.html

Vicente Fox was so utterly corrupt during his term (picture a combination of Reagan and the Chimp) that he caused the PRI to lose its first presidential election since the Mexican Revolution. Who cares what he says? Certainly not Mexicans. He's more of a pariah than El Chapo.

LTShit Troll 2 wrote: Who cares what he says?

Why do you still post here?

And who are you?

LTS TRN 2 wrote:Vicente Fox was so utterly corrupt during his term (picture a combination of Reagan and the Chimp) that he caused the PRI to lose its first presidential election since the Mexican Revolution. Who cares what he says? Certainly not Mexicans. He's more of a pariah than El Chapo.

Fox was not a member of the PRI. He was a member of the National Action Party.

Trump was a total embarrassment last night. Rubio was clowning him hard, and dude went full Chernobyl. He appears to have all the emotional stability of a petulant 12 year old whose ice cream just fell off the cone.

When pressed by Cruz, he couldn't even muster a single specific about his healthcare plan. But it just goes to show, if you talk loudly and boldly enough, the simpletons will follow, even if you say absolutely nothing of substance.

Ducklips would probably be a better fit at T1B than serving as POTUS seeing as he's mastered the art of IKYABWAI.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Trump was a total embarrassment last night. Rubio was clowning him hard, and dude went full Chernobyl. He appears to have all the emotional stability of a petulant 12 year old whose ice cream just fell off the cone.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/nop ... good-night

You're making the mistake of thinking that all the old rules apply. They don't.

Looks like the D has solidified his stranglehold on the U&R blowhard demographic with the endorsement of crispy creme. I doubt anyone in the universe could give half a fukk other than sonofmailman. Pretty sure he is giving the shower curtain rod a good long look.

mvscal wrote:
Yeah...real "terrifying" stuff right there.

Bring China to the bargaining table by immediately declaring it a currency manipulator.

so you think the way to get the Chinese to cooperate is to start things off on a negative note? tell us something we don't know....how is declaring them a currency manipulator going to bring them to the bargaining table?

Protect American ingenuity and investment by forcing China to uphold intellectual property laws and stop their unfair and unlawful practice of forcing U.S. companies to share proprietary technology with Chinese competitors as a condition of entry to China’s market.

I got news for you, China isn't "forcing" US companies to share anything.....they simply welcome these companies with open arms, then steal the technology.....
(see CISCO)....he has about the same chance of convincing the chinese to uphold intellectual property laws as I do of winning the lottery....exactly what leverage does the donald have than no other american presidents have had? hey here's a great idea, why don't we just stop all import export trade with china and he can crash two economies instead of just one....

by putting an end to China’s illegal export subsidies and lax labor and environmental standards. No more sweatshops or pollution havens stealing jobs from American workers.

oh ok, that sounds pretty ominous....he's going to make sure China no longer has sweatshops? again, how is he going to accomplish this?

The Trump administration will not wait for an international body to tell us what we already know. To gain negotiating leverage, we will pursue the WTO case and aggressively highlight and expose these subsidies.

okay so the US exposes these illegal subsidies (which everybody knows already they exist", a threat is only meaningful if you have the strength to back that threat up....

by putting an end to China’s illegal export subsidies and lax labor and environmental standards. No more sweatshops or pollution havens stealing jobs from American workers.

see question above

and he's talking about expansion of the military in order to stop chinese trade forays into asia? so what's he going to do, bomb Beijing if the chinese tell him to go fuck himself?

jeezus, after reading that I now realize he's an even bigger douchebag than I had imagined.....

I can't help you if you're too stupid to read.

Bullshit babs, read what? All the Trump Position points say is that he will "force" China to do this and that. But neither he nor you can suggest any way to actually do this.

However, with Christie whoring out and endorsing Trump today, the question of Trump's veep pick is pretty much answered. Interesting that Mr Negotiator has probably struck a deal with the NJ governor to become vice president in return for somehow letting Trump avoid the catastrophic bankruptcy takeover of Atlantic City. Trump's tax returns looms as a torpedo to sink this whole circus as well.

You really are one clueless fukktard. The Donald will not pick crispy creme as a veep. He wants someone from a different food group as he already has the tough guy blowhard new yawker vote wrapped up. I would like to see another successful private sector person.


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LTS TRN 2 wrote:Bullshit babs, read what? All the Trump Position points say is that he will "force" China to do this and that. But neither he nor you can suggest any way to actually do this.

So what? That's the nature of every statement ever uttered on the stump, anywhere. He's no less a cartoon than anyone else, I think it's to his advantage that he doesn't actually believe most of the more extreme nonsense he's saying. Whereas everyone else is speaking cuntishly and believing it.

smackaholic wrote:You really are one clueless fukktard. The Donald will not pick crispy creme as a veep. He wants someone from a different food group as he already has the tough guy blowhard new yawker vote wrapped up. I would like to see another successful private sector person.


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Really? How about the idea that Christie takes on the role of pugnacious a-hole--saying all the same point by point bluster and attack--while the Donald smoothly transitions into a seemingly mature and executive CEO kind of attitude? Think about it. Trump knows he's already pushed hard at being outrageous and blunt--and too he knows he has to make the final sale as a seemingly competent and dignified appearing leader. Well? How better than to have an attack dog that will bark and bark obediently, while he can seem composed and thoughtful by comparison?

It's Christie. Remember, the NJ state government is poised to declare bankruptcy on Atlantic City and take it over in some pathetic bail-out action. And Trump is leveraged to his man-tits on the boardwalk. Gee, think they could make a deal?

I thought Trump bailed on AC close to a decade ago? Maybe it was a partial bail. Anyway, that shithole was done about the time injuns throughout the country were given the license to pretty much print money a few decades ago. And now the states, mostly bankrupt democrat run ones like mine are scrambling to build these bright shiny money machines, thinking it is a way to revitalize the cities they have spent the last half century destroying.

I am certain that Bernie will fix it though, when he makes pissing away someone else's money at the casino a human right and hands out a few hundred bucks a month in chips to all the poor folks.

I think 'Camp David Casino and Golf Resort' has a nice ring to it.

I'm all in for Trump because I just want to see the implosion that would ensue in The District. A roulette table in the oval office is a good thing.

I like your thinkin' coogs.

Camp David into a golf course and the capitol into a big ass casino. high stakes bingo in the house of rep. chamber, capitol dome shaped roulette wheels.

smackaholic wrote:I like your thinkin' coogs.

Camp David into a golf course and the capitol into a big ass casino. high stakes bingo in the house of rep. chamber, capitol dome shaped roulette wheels.

mvscal wrote:I can't help you if you're too stupid to read.

and I can't help if you believe that horseshit he's peddling.....the donald is going to be having a very busy first day in office
first he's going to "knock out some of the executive orders done by our president" he's also going to tell the Mexicans they have to pay for a wall between their country and ours, he's going to sign a bill ejecting all undocumented immigrants, kick out any Syrians who are already living here, target and kill the relatives of terrorists, shut down parts of the Internet, drop Bowe Bergdahl out of an airplane into desolate Afghanistan without a parachute....force Nabisco to once again make Oreos in the United States (this is pretty important stuff), get rid of the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, end birthright citizenship, cut the budget by 20 percent by simply renegotiating (don't know who he's going to be "renegotiating" with) but how can you cut the budget by 20% while promising to fix the countries infrastructure? bring back waterboarding.....blah blah blah....

now how many of those "promises" are not within the power of the president, how many are in direct violation of the Constitution and how many are just straight up criminal acts?

that's a hell of a first day, what do you suppose he'll do his second day in office?

Felix wrote:...that's a hell of a first day, what do you suppose he'll do his second day in office?

Preside over the extinction of the GOP as we know it.

What could possibly go wrong with having a fan of Benito Mussolini & the KKK as POTUS?

I like the comparisons to Hitler.

Hitler was a socialist and lifelong failure at anything he tried....until he got into politics.

This definition fits another in this race and it ain't the Trumpster. It is Bernie. He was an abject failure and would likely be living under a bridge today were it not for politics. Unfortunately, this is also the case with a majority of the players in both parties. Trump is the only one with any measurable achievements away from politics. The only possible exception being maybe Cruz. I do think he has some sort of record as an attorney in the private sector.

Diego in Seattle wrote:What could possibly go wrong with having a fan of Benito Mussolini & the KKK as POTUS?

Nothing worse than the idiot we have now. Constitution? What's that?

88 wrote:You guys appear to be gripping kind of hard. Does The Donald scare you that much?

What scares me is that there are apparently a large number of voters who support this shyster. I guess I shouldn't be surprised in that Obama got elected because people were so sick of Bush after 2 terms. This is a similar, yet opposite, knee jerk reaction.

If Trump makes it, expect a Congress that will oppose his every move, therefore another 4-8 years of gridlock. That's the very best we can hope for.

smackaholic wrote:I like the comparisons to Hitler.

Me too. Big RAAAAACCCKKKKK!!!!!!!!

Sin,
Mike Godwin

Left Seater wrote:

Diego in Seattle wrote:What could possibly go wrong with having a fan of Benito Mussolini & the KKK as POTUS?

Nothing worse than the idiot we have now. Constitution? What's that?

Pssst...Obama isn't running to be the next POTUS.

Just thought you should know...

If electing Trump prevents Congress from growing the country, I'll vote thrice.

Sorry but that only works for Democrats.

Left Seater wrote:Nothing worse than the idiot we have now.

IKYABWAI? So fresh.

LTS TRN 2 wrote:

smackaholic wrote:You really are one clueless fukktard. The Donald will not pick crispy creme as a veep. He wants someone from a different food group as he already has the tough guy blowhard new yawker vote wrapped up. I would like to see another successful private sector person.


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Really? How about the idea that Christie takes on the role of pugnacious a-hole--saying all the same point by point bluster and attack--while the Donald smoothly transitions into a seemingly mature and executive CEO kind of attitude? Think about it. Trump knows he's already pushed hard at being outrageous and blunt--and too he knows he has to make the final sale as a seemingly competent and dignified appearing leader. Well? How better than to have an attack dog that will bark and bark obediently, while he can seem composed and thoughtful by comparison?

Plausible, I suppose. I have no earthly idea what Trump is going to do next. I'm just enjoying the show.