Can anybody name someone more worthy than Barack Obama...

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:50 am

Screw_Michigan wrote:Young white males don't job hop?

Sorry to exclude you. Some just can't get a fucking job.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:02 am

Screw_Michigan wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:young white male who will no doubt be with the company long term.
I'm doing fine myself, IF. How do you define long term and have you any solid evidence other than "yeah, IF. I would stay at least four years if you hire me." I thought IT was pretty recession proof, what makes you think these guys wouldn't take another better job when it comes around?

I get your point, but welcome to the 21st century, dude. Not job hopping isn't guaranteed and you know it.

Being in a big city (Dallas) and a small one in Southern Indiana, I know what to look for. In Dallas, there's no way to know if someone is a job-hopper or not. Then again, the talent pool is full. In a small town like this (10k people) with a $1.2 billion company, we look for talent that is not only good but is willing to stick around for awhile.

I was hired over a MUCH more qualified Indian because they knew I wanted to be here. This was my final destination. So, big city vs. small town is apples and oranges when recruiting talent. In the city, yo hire who is most qualified (as long as they fith the AA mold). The kid I will most likely hire I know is from here. His girlfriend in college is from here. I have a good feeling he will want to be here long term. If not, so be it. But I'd rather roll the dice on an inexperienced kid with promise than some dothead who is out of work who will bail as soon as he gets another opportunity.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:59 am

IndyFrisco wrote:
Bizzarofelice wrote:Oh. You were talking about the white males on this board.
By the way, white males are about the most discriminated group in the workforce. I'm in the process of hiring someone and was told that I need to give a few Indians consideration for this IT job. I won't fucking hire one because we've hired 12 in the last 7 years. All 12 got 2-3 years experiece and jetted off to new jobs. We spent 10s of thousands in training for those dotheads. Not again. I will talk to a couple, pretend I can understand them on the phone, thank them for their time and tell them to go eat a curry dinner.

I'm hiring a white male. I already know that. Why? Because two of the three strong candidates are white males. Third is a white woman, but she's 52 years old and I'm not putting 25k into training on an old woman. She would probably be the most productive in the first 2 years, but she won't be here long term. So I'm going with the young white male who will no doubt be with the company long term.

She won't be there long term? Did she tell you that? Jesus, why don't you just turn her into Soylent Green?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:05 am

IndyFrisco wrote:Wow...didn't realize Obama created the IMF.

Never said he did. Now stop being a ponderous douchebag.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:12 am

The prize doesn't have to do with peace.

What it has to do with is a group of people (who's interest is in elevating other parts of the world at the expense of America) giving an award to a person who they recognize to have an agenda in line with theirs.

B.O.'s agenda is hurting American prosperity.
Why is our president doing things which hurt America prosperity?

He's incompetent?
He's dumb?
He doesn't care?
He wants to?

Whatever the reason may be, the Nobel Euro trash verrah much likes and encourages it.

Hence the award.

Same as with Al Fraud Gore.

He moves to neuter the United States with his global warming scam.

Ignorant sheep go along with the nonsense.

The Nobel committee jacks to it.

It is what it is.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:51 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:
Bizzarofelice wrote:I don't get the "everyone but the far left thinks this guy is a fuck up" comment.
Well, we all agree the far left (Mikey, BSmack, etc.) will suck him off on whatever he says/does.

Healthcare, IMF loans, Gitmo, War....these are other issues as I pointed out below.

Why couldn't he get the shitty Plan bill through? Even Democrats were opposed to the initial version of the bill. Even Democrats were critical of his initial request for the $100 billion IMF "loan" (as if we are in the god damned position to loan $100 billion to anyone). Why is Gitmo still open? Why have our troops not been pulled out? He does not have full support of his party for the promises he has made, or he would have delivered SOMETHING by now besides more debt.
Moderate democrats have not supported (or defended) all the courses of action of the president unlike the far left contingent here and elsewhere. You fucks getso hung up on words here. Ok, instead of everyone but the far left, call it many other than the far left. Shit for sakes here. You actually think I meant every single man, woman or child not in the far left? I'm not about to proofread every damn post I make here to make sure it is 100% accurate in all respects. The gist of my post was true. You want to nipick and be a cunt, so be it.

Are you really as paranoid as you come off?

Sure love throwing around accusations of people being "far left" and "libtards". You obviously have no respect for any opinions other than your own. And I don't think you've seen me in here defending everything that Obama's done. However, your characterization of "far left" or Democrats or libtards or whatever word you want to use to describe anybody who doesn't think exactly like you do is completely off base. A lot of Democats (at least a lot of the ones I know) are a lot more pissed off at the supposedly Democratic Congress for caving to the asshole Repugnitans and not passing any of Obama's agenda. The agenda that a majority of the voters bought into have failed because the Demos in Congress have no balls. Too worried about and being cowed by the minority shouting "bipartisanship". They never gave it any consideration when they were in the majority.

The biggest gaping cunt around here is turning out to be you.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:57 pm

Mikey wrote:The biggest gaping cunt around here is turning out to be you.

Sweet. IKYABWAI?

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:08 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:
Mikey wrote:The biggest gaping cunt around here is turning out to be you.

Sweet. IKYABWAI?

Nope. More like you got it wrong because it only applies to you.

YGIWBIOATY

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:14 pm

Hey, you can live in la-la-land and act like you care about everyone's well being. I care about what is best for me and my family. My community. You call that selfish? I would agree to an extent, but your neighbor doesn't give a fuck about me and I don't give a fuck about him. To each their own. I can get by just fine without the damn government's help. What I hate is when they get in the fucking way. And to those who feel they are helpless without the govenrment, they can fall by the wayside for all I care.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:52 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:Hey, you can live in la-la-land and act like you care about everyone's well being. I care about what is best for me and my family. My community. You call that selfish? I would agree to an extent, but your neighbor doesn't give a fuck about me and I don't give a fuck about him. To each their own. I can get by just fine without the damn government's help. What I hate is when they get in the fucking way. And to those who feel they are helpless without the govenrment, they can fall by the wayside for all I care.

Dude, when did I ever mention "selfish"? Anyhow, selfish is the American way.
Why are you so defensive?

You must be feeling guilty or something.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:57 pm

Care free here. Wife and kids went to the condo in Florida today until Tuesday. Bachelorhood, even for a little while, is bliss. Will probably be paying for some smiles at the casino all weekend. Hopefully they pay me for them.

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:32 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:So you have no answer for the question

What question?

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:17 am

Bizzarofelice wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:So you have no answer for the question
What question?

The one right above your post.

IndyFrisco wrote:still waiting on anyone to give a good reason why Obama DESERVES the NPP.

Of course I already answered it. The NPP is a worthless POS,and so is Obama.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:38 am

Diogenes wrote:
Bizzarofelice wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:So you have no answer for the question
What question?
The one right above your post.

IndyFrisco wrote:still waiting on anyone to give a good reason why Obama DESERVES the NPP.
Of course I already answered it. The NPP is a worthless POS,and so is Obama.

[fingers in ears - nanananananana]What question?[/fingers in ears - nanananananana]

Sin,
Bace

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:08 am

The NPP is a prize given out anually by a bunch of Swedes.

It is what it is. Not sure why there's so much flap about it one way or the other.

Obama haters are going to hate him anyway. Supporters will support him.
Sure gives a lot of idiots a chance to blow off steam though.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:19 am

Mikey wrote:Obama haters are going to hate him anyway. Supporters will support him.
Sure gives a lot of idiots a chance to blow off steam though.

And sure gives a lot of Obama cum guzzlers a chance to take a gulp too.

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:40 am

Bizzarofelice wrote:Oh. You were talking about the white males on this board. I thought the Pres' approval was still above 50% and didn't understand if you thought 50% of the country was far left.

What was that Chuck ? Dude.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:46 am

Mikey wrote:The NPP is a prize given out anually by a bunch of Swedes.

Not "a bunch". Five. 5 Norwegians, dumbass.

It is what it is.

What?

I'm fairly certain it was YOU who once posted that was the lamest line ever. No?

Not sure why there's so much flap about it one way or the other.

Agreed. But it's fun watching Libs get their panties in a bunch about Cons getting their panties in a bunch.

Didn't Paul Krugman win some sort of award you were trumpeting about awhile back? A Pulitzer? Oh well, "it is what it is".

Obama haters are going to hate him anyway. Supporters will support him.

And then there are the vast majority who don't hate or love him, but sit back and judge him by results or lack thereof. The jury is still out, but the last thing I want is to see the man fail just because I disagree with his ideaology. The job is too important for that.

Sure gives a lot of idiots a chance to blow off steam though.

Has it worked? Do you feel all better now?

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:49 am

IndyFrisco wrote:still waiting on anyone to give a good reason why Obama DESERVES the NPP.

That isn't a question.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:53 am

Mikey wrote:Sure gives a lot of idiots a chance to blow off steam though.

If by 'blow off steam' you mean start lame threads about how epic winning the NPP is, than yes.

And it gives the rest of us a chance to mock them.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:35 am

War Wagon wrote:
Mikey wrote:The NPP is a prize given out anually by a bunch of Swedes.
Not "a bunch". Five. 5 Norwegians, dumbass.

I'm truly humbled. Wags actually got over on me. So OK the NPP is awarded by five Norwegians. All the other Nobels are awarded by Swedish committees. Alfred Nobel was a Swede. Yeah I know, no excuse for not knowing.

How long did it take you to look it up?

Also, how do you define "a bunch", BTW?

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:59 am

Bizzarofelice wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:still waiting on anyone to give a good reason why Obama DESERVES the NPP.
That isn't a question.

Sorry, Alex.

Ignoring the fact that the NPP is a bad joke and so is Obama, if there were any merit to this 'honor', what has Obama done to deserve it?

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:22 pm

Diogenes wrote:Ignoring the fact that the NPP is a bad joke and so is Obama, if there were any merit to this 'honor', what has Obama done to deserve it?

That isn't a question that I can answer.

-Bace

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:00 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:
Diogenes wrote:Ignoring the fact that the NPP is a bad joke and so is Obama, if there were any merit to this 'honor', what has Obama done to deserve it?
That isn't a question that I can answer.

-Bace

How can I answer a question that doesn't exist?

Seriously, I thought you were better than this. Might want to step away from T1B. You've changed, man.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:08 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:
Diogenes wrote:Ignoring the fact that the NPP is a bad joke and so is Obama, if there were any merit to this 'honor', what has Obama done to deserve it?
That isn't a question that I can answer.

-Bace

How can I answer a question that doesn't exist?

Seriously, I thought you were better than this. Might want to step away from T1B. You've changed, man.

If a question is posted on a message board and it goes over Bizzo's head,does it cease to exist?

Fuck it, I hate existentialism anyway.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:26 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote:
How can I answer a question that doesn't exist?

Seriously, I thought you were better than this. Might want to step away from T1B. You've changed, man.

Just answer the non-existent unquestion already.

Or do you have something to hide, hmmm?

:|

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:00 pm

Diogenes wrote:
If a question is posted on a message board...

There is no question posed.

I thought War Wagon was s'posed to be the retard here. Didn't know IndyFrisco and Diogenes had contracted the Tard Flu.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:04 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
If a question is posted on a message board...
There is no question posed.

Sorry, Alex. The judges have overruled you...

Diogenes wrote:...if there were any merit to this 'honor', what has Obama done to deserve it?

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:06 pm

Simple grammar.

There is no question.

OF PAGE FOUR!!!!!!

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:32 am

Bizzarofelice wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
If a question is posted on a message board...
There is no question posed.

I thought War Wagon was s'posed to be the retard here. Didn't know IndyFrisco and Diogenes had contracted the Tard Flu.

Quit thinking, that'd be your best strategy.

Wait... at some point in your message board existance you actually thought you were something special?

Please explain.

Terry in Crapchester · Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:25 am

IndyFrisco wrote:At least Bush's tax CUTS were across the board. And for those who say the tax break on capital gains is for the rich only, no, it was for the smart who invested properly only.

41% of Bush's tax cuts benefitted the wealthiest 1%. Now, if you want to compare that to Kennedy's 1962 tax cuts (and Bush certainly did), only 6% of those 1962 tax cuts benefitted the wealthiest 1%. That despite the following facts: (a) the highest marginal tax bracket in 1962 was considerably higher than it was in 2001; and (b) the wealthiest 1% were doing much better viz. everyone else in 2001 than they were in 1962.

IndyFrisco wrote:Obama cum guzzlers

On this board, when compared to Bush, that would be perhaps the ultimate example of projection.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:40 pm

Terry in Crapchester wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:At least Bush's tax CUTS were across the board. And for those who say the tax break on capital gains is for the rich only, no, it was for the smart who invested properly only.
100% of Bush's tax cuts benefitted 100%.

FTFY.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:02 pm

Diogenes wrote:
Terry in Crapchester wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:At least Bush's tax CUTS were across the board. And for those who say the tax break on capital gains is for the rich only, no, it was for the smart who invested properly only.
100% of Bush's tax cuts benefitted 100%.
FTFY.

Yep...thanks for that windfall, Bush.

Terry in Crapchester · Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:15 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:Hell, I have to give TiC props. He's the LAST one I'd expect to come in and say "No he didn't deserve it and here's some who probably should have." Rack Terry.

Since we're in the spirit of giving props across the aisle, and what not . . .

I suppose I owe the righties props for not suggesting that W deserves the Nobel Peace Prize for bringing to justice the 9/11 mastermind, Saddam Hussein. Surprised the fuck out of me that none of you did that. Pleasantly, I might add.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:34 pm

Terry in Crapchester wrote:I suppose I owe the righties props for not suggesting that W deserves the Nobel Peace Prize for bringing to justice the OKC mastermind, Saddam Hussein.

FTFY.

Get your conspiracy theories straight.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:42 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:
Diogenes wrote:Ignoring the fact that the NPP is a bad joke and so is Obama, if there were any merit to this 'honor', what has Obama done to deserve it?
That isn't a question that I can answer.

-Bace

How can I answer a question that doesn't exist?

This has been posted many times in this thread. Sure looks like a question to me.

IndyFrisco wrote:What has Obama done to deserve the NPP?

Seriously, I thought you were better than this. Might want to step away from T1B. You've changed, man.

I've not changed a bit other than poking my nose in a politico thread every now and again which I usually avoid like the plague because it is a vicious bore from the same folks usually saying the same things.

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:42 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:What has Obama done to deserve the NPP?

Finally... a question is posed.

Van · Post by **Van** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:59 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:What has Obama done to deserve the NPP?
Finally... a question is posed.

So answer it. Nobody ever doubted that the question had already been posed, despite your attempts to divert.

That was a very m2-esque response by you, Bace.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:18 pm

Van wrote:
Bizzarofelice wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:What has Obama done to deserve the NPP?
Finally... a question is posed.
So answer it. Nobody ever doubted that the question had already been posed, despite your attempts to divert.

That was a very m2-esque response by you, Bace.

When this question is finally answered, can we get on with asking "When did you stop beating your wife"?

It's essentially the same thing. Aside from B_Short_Term_Memory, nobody in this thread is making a serious case that Omurder is worthy of the NPP.

The term "strawman" gets tossed around quite a bit on this board. This is one of those times where it would be applicable.

Van · Post by **Van** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:26 pm

No, it isn't. Nobody has accused Bace of saying Obama deserved the award. People are merely asking him to detail Obama's achievements which warranted his receiving the award. In essence, they're asking Bace to state whether he feels Obama deserved the award.

It's not a strawman.