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Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:53 am

Truman wrote: You DO realize that honorable service in our country's armed forces guarantees even ILLEGAL ALIENS a sure path to citizenship, correct?

WRONG, they aren't guaranteed shit.

Bitter, envious bitch.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:57 am

Screw_Michigan wrote:
For reference: Bri grifting $10 from Wolftard is a criminal infraction.

Actually, it was $15...

Truman · Post by **Truman** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:58 am

Screw_America wrote:
Left Seater wrote: Really? Just being here while undocumented is is against the law.
It's a civil infraction, not a criminal infraction.

But it's still breaking the law. Just like your red president's unconstitutional executive order. DACA was headed for the rocks regardless of Trump's stay. Constitution out front shoulda told you. Asshat.

Truman · Post by **Truman** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:01 am

Screw_Michigan wrote:
Truman wrote: You DO realize that honorable service in our country's armed forces guarantees even ILLEGAL ALIENS a sure path to citizenship, correct?
WRONG, they aren't guaranteed shit.

Bitter, envious bitch.

So Google doesn't work in the District. Noted.

Envious of what? Getting your cunt kicked in on a message board? You win.

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:39 am

Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:
Rooster wrote:...the cultural Marxist agenda...

The modern "left" movement in the West has very little to do with Marx or socialist economic models. It's more accurate to label it "post-modernist".
It's a culture of critique invented by a few egg-head kikes in Germany in the 30's with the intention of degrading Western civilization into a fragmented sea of petty self-interest and vulgarity, until Hitler started booking them vacations at the Zyklon Inn. They then pulled up roots and moved (mostly) to America.
Google "Frankfurt School" and you'll understand exactly who the players are and what their motivations and tactics have been.

Yeah, I'll concede that point, Marty. However, for brevity rather than accuracy I'll probably continue to refer to it as cultural Marxism in that it better encapsulates the aims, goals, and thinking of what is going on in today's Left. What you wrote is correct, but there are similarities in the process of politicizing everything and bending all of life to those ends-- something which Marx codified.

Assuming that Mikey isn't actually the total dumbshit that we enjoy teasing him for being, I'd also concede to him that not all or even a majority of the Left is aware of the underpinnings of their political beliefs, but rather think it stems from some nebulous sense of the goodness of man or a general feeling of humanity positivity-- if there is such a phrase. (If not, I demand royalties from each of you for using it). However, the agenda-- and there is such a directed purpose --of these cultural Marxists is to upend the United States as it is and impose a more Soviet/Communist Chinese/Cuban/Venezuelan form of government where the people are doing the will of the few running the country. George Soros and Saul Alinsky is/was one for whom this agenda is not just a conspiracy theory, but a practical and attainable goal with specific steps to be taken in furtherance of this path.

I hope that Mikey is also intelligent enough to be aware of these individuals and groups who would take that altruistic world view and subvert it for the purpose of, if not overthrowing the US, certainly breaking its' ability to operate in the capacity that it has and does around the globe.

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:45 am

ML@Coyote wrote:A few things...
Many (if not most) Hispanics consider themselves to be white.

This is correct. It also flies in the face of those studies which claim the US will be a minority majority country by 2050 or whatever date they've chosen. Many hispanics as they grow affluent assimilate middle class American culture and reject culturally Hispanic dress, language, and marital partners.

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:46 am

double post

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:33 am

Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:
Screw_Michigan wrote:
For reference: Bri grifting $10 from Wolftard is a criminal infraction.
Actually, it was $15...

bwaaaa...

RACK!

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:55 am

ML wrote:
Second, those who don't like Hispanics are not racists. Hispanics are not a race, they are a people of Spanish background. Many (if not most) Hispanics consider themselves to be white. People who dislike Hispanics because they are Hispanic are xenophobes maybe, but not racists.

Most "Hispanics" in the Americas have a mixture of indigenous blood with varying amounts, though usually pretty little, of actual Spanish. In a lot of Central and South America your social class is somewhat a function of how purely "Spanish" you are.

But that's really neither here nor there. Since "Hispanic" isn't technically a race we can feel free to hate all Mexicans without being labeled a racist. We just hate all Mexicans. Very reassuring.

ML@Coyote · Post by **ML@Coyote** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:02 am

My third point was that xenophobia is foolish.

It wasn't that complicated.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:53 am

Once more time for the slow kids, most dreamers have broken no law.
And for ML (not that he isn't also slow) the Dec of Ind didn't guarantee anything, except to tell the King we were breaking up with him, so way to point out the obvious.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:06 am

Mikey wrote:
Papa Willie wrote:
Why don't you, the midget & Screwy open your checkbooks and start writing checks to these children?
Why? Most of them are either in school or gainfully employed, making more per week than your average Georgia cracker.

Bullfuckingshit. Some are, some not. I watch a bunch of them slinging dope, well not slinging it themselves, but having their fat bitches deliver it to the trailer courts and apartments in piece of shit cars on Thursdays and the home boys coming and picking up the cash in their Beams and Scades and 300s on Mondays. Some of them are in the trades, but the local high schoolers are planing a protest march tomorrow last one which left trash and shit thrown all over the building on a property I manage.

Have to rack the one who tried to hold up 6 of his fellow dreamers with a knife and ended up getting his ass stomped into the ground.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:33 am

Rooster wrote:
ML@Coyote wrote:A few things...
Many (if not most) Hispanics consider themselves to be white.
This is correct. It also flies in the face of those studies which claim the US will be a minority majority country by 2050 or whatever date they've chosen. Many hispanics as they grow affluent assimilate middle class American culture and reject culturally Hispanic dress, language, and marital partners.

Not in our area. The local school district is over 52% Hispanic is an area where the demographic is about 30% Hispanic. One town locally that is over 70% Hispanic skews that demographic, but as a school district goes, it is pretty representative of the area.

If they assimilate language, then why the fuck do we still have ESL classes on a continual basis ?? At what point do they actually become able to speak English?? AS far as dress goes, the young ones dress like sluts until they get knocked up at 16 and start to pork up a bit. As far as martial partners, around here if a Hispanic chick marries a white dude, it is pretty rare. The white guys want to bang some of these cuties, but very few of them do. The Hispanic culture here is not inbreeding with the whites at all. Not even hanging out with them.

If I went to live in another country and wanted to assimilate into that society, learning to speak the language would be priority one for me. I picked up an old Hispanic guy who was carrying a sack of cans to the redemption center last week. He was 82, and been here for 40 years all over the US and still could not speak passable English. I speak enough Spanish that we had a decent conversation, he was not getting any Social Security and his family was helping him, and he picks up cans for money. He was broken from work, but keeps on going. I collect some cans for him and leave them hidden in a spot for him each week. It is what you make it.

ML@Coyote · Post by **ML@Coyote** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:46 am

Moving Sale wrote:the Dec of Ind didn't guarantee anything, except to tell the King we were breaking up with him

"Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" is what the D of I says, and the phrase gives these three examples of the "unalienable rights" all human beings have been given by their Creator, and which governments are created to protect. This implies more than just a break up with the King, I think. There was an intention here to establish a fair government. The intention wasn't to provide a guarantee, so I (choke) agree with you. Everyone is expected to pull their own weight in the pursuit of their dreams. But this responsibility isn't so obvious to the illegal immigrant who drives around without car insurance, uses our infrastructure, takes advantage of our many services, and earns wages without contributing any taxes.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:00 am

There was no intent to establish a gov in 1776. It could have just as easily have told him to go pound sand. Your number five is completely wrong. And the last part of your post is irrelevant because dreamers are vetted.

ML@Coyote · Post by **ML@Coyote** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:57 am

Moving Sale wrote:There was no intent to establish a gov in 1776. It could have just as easily have told him to go pound sand. Your number five is completely wrong. And the last part of your post is irrelevant because dreamers are vetted.

I'm having a hard time imagining a revolution without the intent of establishing a new government.

But maybe that's just me.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:00 pm

The dec of ind wasn't a revolution. It was a break up document. It had no legal effect on anybody. It was a shot across the bow.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:02 pm

schmick wrote:Every second a criminal alien, regardless of age, spends in the USA, the law is broken

Why don't you fight them tuff guy?

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:22 pm

ML@Coyote wrote:My third point was that xenophobia is foolish.

It wasn't that complicated.

OK I stand corrected.

I must say, though, that Rooster...Derron...Schmick, your somewhat xenophobic attitude might be unacceptable to certain people of sound conscience, with an average or better degree of intelligence.

There...that impromptu philippic imparted a wonderful feeling of euphoric jubilation.

Additionally, might I suggest that you take advantage of this opportunity to make an attempt at self-fornication?

ML@Coyote · Post by **ML@Coyote** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:24 pm

Moving Sale wrote:There was no intent to establish a gov in 1776.

"When on July 4, 1776, Americans declared independence from the monarchy of Great Britain, they were faced with the formidable task of creating new republican governments."

"The revolution was not about simply becoming independent from British tyranny; with their new state governments Americans aimed to show the world how tyranny anywhere might be prevented."

This from an essay by Gordon S. Wood. https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-b ... government

Gordon S. Wood is the Alva O. Way University Professor Emeritus at Brown University. His books on the founding era include The Creation of the American Republic, 1776–1787 (1969), which won the Bancroft Prize; The Radicalism of the American Revolution (1992), which won the Pulitzer Prize for History; and Empire of Liberty: A History of the Early Republic, 1789–1815 (2009).

Now who should I believe? A respected historian and Pulitzer Prize winner or a dubious lawyer who defends drunk drivers and medicinal marijuana users?

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:52 pm

Mikey wrote: I must say, though, that Rooster...Derron...Schmick, your somewhat xenophobic attitude might be unacceptable to certain people of sound conscience, with an average or better degree of intelligence.

There...that impromptu philippic imparted a wonderful feeling of euphoric jubilation.

Additionally, might I suggest that you take advantage of this opportunity to make an attempt at self-fornication?

So posting my observations makes me xenophobic ?? You forgot to call me a racist though.

So I am a self admitted simple boy from the Northwest who is conservative and what I though was fairly well educated, but your glossing words smith work sent me to the dictionary to decipher just what the fuck you were talking about.

Definition of philippic
: a discourse or declamation full of bitter condemnation :

Reading my post (s) , I am not finding any "bitter condemnation" in there. Now you being the bleeding liberal you are, take the opportunity to put your spin on it and twist it to your desires.

Definition of xenophobe
: one unduly fearful of what is foreign and especially of people of foreign origin

This is hilarious. You should move the fuck out of So Cal and come up here to the Portland area, you could be come some kind of travelling liberal preacher, these hipsters would fall down and worship you, you could get all kinds of young hipster pussy and the best drugs in the area would be yours.

5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.“ There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:19 pm

Derron, you really should check your reading comprehension. I guess maybe I used too many big words for you.

First of all, it was ML@Coyote that suggested xenophobe. And I didn't call you a xenophobe. I implied that your attitude might be somewhat xenophobic. I would have used racist in the past, but I now know that it doesn't apply. Apparently you find xenophobe to be even more offensive than racist. Go figure.

Second, I didn't refer to your post as a philippic. I was referring to my own previous statement. That big sentence where I used the term could be loosely translated into your level of discourse as "There, that rant felt really good."

Finally, I wouldn't imply that you're unduly fearful of anybody. Again, xenophobe was ML's suggestion. I would just say that you have a low opinion of "dreamers".

ML@Coyote · Post by **ML@Coyote** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:34 pm

Just for the record, I didn't call Derron a racist or a xenophobe. I simply defined the terms.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:37 pm

ML@Coyote wrote:Just for the record, I didn't call Derron a racist or a xenophobe. I simply defined the terms.

That's absolutely correct.

Derron seems to have been offended by what was meant to be a "tongue in cheek" response. I guess I need to work on my comedy shtick.

I wouldn't call him a racist either. He seems to have no problem with 82 year old Mexicans who don't speak English. It's the younger ones who seem to get under his skin. Maybe that's not even xenophobic.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:55 pm

Excellent job.

ML@Coyote · Post by **ML@Coyote** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 7:08 pm

Maybe he, like me, just hates criminals

I don't think Derron hates illegal immigrants. From what I read from his posts, he's helped a couple of them become legal. This is a lot more than most people are willing to do.

ML@Coyote · Post by **ML@Coyote** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:14 pm

schmick wrote:personally, unless you live in a state that borders mexico, your opinion on the border wall and these daca criminals doesn't matter.
And unless you can show your family has lived in California, legally, since before ww2, youre a transplant and shouldn't be allowed to vote in our elections....transplants keep fucking this state up.

My grandparents moved to Southern California in the early 1900s. My parents were both born here. I was born in San Bernardino in 1955.

So I guess I'm allowed to vote.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:59 pm

The problems for border states are certainly worse than for say South Dakota but even they aren't immune. But saying their opinion doesn't matter is silly. Why limit yourself to potential solutions that only come from your state?

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:16 pm

I have no problem with DACA children other than that Obama used an executive order to implement it. What can be done by EO can be undone by EO and in this case it is properly being sent to Congress for them to produce legislation on it.

The parents, however, should be returned from whence they came. Illegally in, bum's rush out. If they spent half the effort to fix their own country as much as they expended getting in here Mexico or Guatemala wouldn't be the various tropical shitholes they are.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:05 pm

Left Seater wrote:The problems for border states are certainly worse than for say South Dakota but even they aren't immune. But saying their opinion doesn't matter is silly. Why limit yourself to potential solutions that only come from your state?

You are trying to reason with a person who thinks a system of pipes and canals could have handled the 50 inches of rain in the Houston area. His take on social issues is not much better.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:09 pm

Derron wrote:
Left Seater wrote:The problems for border states are certainly worse than for say South Dakota but even they aren't immune. But saying their opinion doesn't matter is silly. Why limit yourself to potential solutions that only come from your state?
You are trying to reason with a person who thinks a system of pipes and canals could have handled the 50 inches of rain in the Houston area. His take on social issues is not much better.

They could build a pipe from Houston to California to drain all that flood water. That might solve all of California's drought problems for a few years. You could then move the pipes to wherever the next flood is. Maybe add some length on in time to catch some of Irma's rainfall.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:10 pm

schmick wrote:Maybe he, like me, just hates criminals. Libtard cocksuckers can label criminals as "dreamers" but it doesn't change the fact that they're criminals,

Some of them were infants when their parents brought them over.

Go ahead & hook us up with some links to prosecutions of infants.

We'll be waiting...

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:56 pm

Once more for the idiots. Dreamers are not criminals or they don't qualify as dreamers.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:19 pm

Say it all you want. That doesn't make it true. I cited the relevant United States code. Your post was nothing more than fake news.

Truman · Post by **Truman** » Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:49 pm

Moving Sale wrote:Say it all you want. That doesn't make it true. I cited the relevant United States code. Your post was nothing more than fake news.

Try again, Shorty.

If Mom, Dad, and the chilluns all slip into Disneyland and are busted mid-day by the park police, does that mean the kids get to stay and enjoy the amenities after their folks get the boot? Spin that, hack.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Fri Sep 08, 2017 12:26 am

Truman wrote:
If Mom, Dad, and the chilluns all slip into Disneyland...

Moving Sale isn't qualified to answer that question.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Fri Sep 08, 2017 12:56 am

Truman wrote:
Screw_Amerca wrote:some Dreamer Marine returns home from being deployed and is arrested by ICE at the airport and deported. And I can't wait until you hateful, bioted fucks show your thanks for this man's service to our nation by getting on your knees and sucking Trump's crank.

You people make me fucking sick.
You poor stupid fuck.

You DO realize that honorable service in our country's armed forces guarantees even ILLEGAL ALIENS a sure path to citizenship, correct? Or are you truly this fucking ignorant?

He is that ignorant. In my sons platoon at Marine Corps basic training there were 3 guys who were not citizens. One of them from some African nation had already done 4 years in the Navy as a Corpsman, got his citizenship and promptly enlisted in the Marines. 2 others were Hispanic, and their entire families came to the graduation and were received as all other Marine Corps families were. Granted not a lot do this, but a free and legal path to citzenship, plus the benefits of being a veteran.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Fri Sep 08, 2017 1:08 am

Truman wrote:
Moving Sale wrote:Say it all you want. That doesn't make it true. I cited the relevant United States code. Your post was nothing more than fake news.
Try again, Shorty.

If Mom, Dad, and the chilluns all slip into Disneyland and are busted mid-day by the park police, does that mean the kids get to stay and enjoy the amenities after their folks get the boot? Spin that, hack.

Nice false analogy assface.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:04 am

Mikey wrote:
ML@Coyote wrote:Just for the record, I didn't call Derron a racist or a xenophobe. I simply defined the terms.
That's absolutely correct.

Derron seems to have been offended by what was meant to be a "tongue in cheek" response. I guess I need to work on my comedy shtick.

I wouldn't call him a racist either. He seems to have no problem with 82 year old Mexicans who don't speak English. It's the younger ones who seem to get under his skin. Maybe that's not even xenophobic.

Now I admitted to having to go to the dictionary to figure out what that shit meant. Your play on words was good, especially the last line when you could have just told us to go fuck ourselves in simple terms. The younger ones may bother me a bit, but so do the younger ones of all races. I am an equal hater of all races if you are stupid.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:18 am

ML@Coyote wrote:
Maybe he, like me, just hates criminals
I don't think Derron hates illegal immigrants. From what I read from his posts, he's helped a couple of them become legal. This is a lot more than most people are willing to do.

Correct, I do not hate them. I worked for many years in an industry (s) that employed a lot of them. They had good documents and most were good workers. I have helped several become legal. One I spent several thousand dollars helping out, because he was a valued employee of my company,and is a citizen today. I was operations manager at a company when several got picked up by their own federales, and I had to broker some bribes to get these guys out of jail there, so I could get them back for construction work.

I don't care for the illegals who commit crimes, and I don't care for the legal or "normal" citizens who commit crimes either. Pretty simple really.