88....One Of Your Relatives?

[Diego in Seattle]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/21/lo ... -man-home/

Los Angeles police find stash of 1,200 guns in dead man's home

Los Angeles police investigating a man's death discovered an arsenal of more than 1,200 firearms and approximately two tons of ammunition in his home and garage Monday.

The Los Angeles Times reported that the unidentified man's decomposing body was found in his car, which was parked down the street from his Pacific Palisades home earlier Monday.

LAPD Cmdr. Andrew Smith told the paper the number of guns was "staggering."

"Our truck couldn't carry it all," Smith said. "We had to go back and make another trip." The Times reported that many of the guns had never been fired, and some were still in boxes with price tags attached.

There were no signs of foul play in the man's death, nor was there any indication that he had been involved in criminal activity. However, detectives want to investigate why the man had so many guns and whether the weapons had been linked to any crimes.

"We have a lot of work to do," Smith said. "Running the background, history and legality of these weapons is going to require a tremendous amount of time. It's not a crime to have a large number of weapons so long as they were legal to own and legally obtained. We want to make sure that's the case."

[Y2K]

So the guy had the big one not far from his home, he isn't a criminal and then police enter his home and take his property.
Is this legal? Isn't this his heirs property and who the fuck watched the cops take inventory as to make sure they don't steal his guns or ammo during this "investigation"? These weapons are worth a boatload of money and are part of his estate.
Sounds like bullshit to me.

[Sirfindafold]

Now if the headline read 1200 Toy Guns we would know whose relative it was.

[Mikey]

So the guy had the big one not far from his home, he isn't a criminal and then police enter his home and take his property.
Is this legal? Isn't this his heirs property and who the fuck watched the cops take inventory as to make sure they don't steal his guns or ammo during this "investigation"? These weapons are worth a boatload of money and are part of his estate.
Sounds like bullshit to me.

Good point.

A quote from the LA Times article:

"We don't think the weapons are illegal; we are taking them for public safety," Craig said, adding that it was a preemptive step to ensure the ammunition or guns wouldn't be stolen from the home.

Seems like a legitimate concern.

Apparently in California, firearms cannot be transferred through inheritance except to "immediate family" (parent/child, grandparent/grandchild, husband/wife). Also assault weapons can't be transferred except through a licensed dealer, no matter what the situation.

At least that's what it says here:

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Inher ... g_Firearms
http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Trans ... ly_Members

It doesn't appear that the guy was living with any immediate family.

A lot of other valuable stuff (like ammo, scopes, etc.) was also hauled off.
Not sure what happens to all the guns if nobody can legally inherit them. Can they sell them to a dealer and keep the $$?

[Diego in Seattle]

The plot thickens.....

Mystery of dead man and his 1,200 guns deepens

The body went unnoticed for two weeks in the summer heat, decomposing inside a sport utility vehicle parked in the affluent neighborhood of Pacific Palisades.

Once Los Angeles police were called, they traced the dead man inside the vehicle to a town house down the street. There, investigators found roughly two tons of ammunition and more than 1,200 high-end pistols, shotguns and rifles.

The cache of firearms and ammunition was so large that it took police days to remove several truckloads from the canyon home.

But that's where the mystery began.

On Tuesday, police were trying to piece together how the dead man ended up inside the abandoned vehicle and determine why he had so many weapons. The coroner's office had yet to formally identify him as of Tuesday, though law enforcement sources said detectives have a good idea of his name.

Several neighbors said the man was known only as "Bob" in the local area and described him as a gun fanatic who claimed to have worked covertly for either the FBI or the CIA. His fiancée had lived in the town home on Palisades Drive for years, they said.

"He'll say crazy things to people like he does night missions swimming to Catalina," said one neighbor, who declined to give her name, saying she was afraid. "He would come ... and tell us he would show us self-defense moves."

An attorney representing the man's fiancée said that he was the one who contacted police last week about the man's death and the weapons at the home.

Harland Braun, a veteran criminal defense attorney who has represented celebrities and other high-profile clients, said the story the fiancée told him about what occurred "sounds so bizarre." The dead man, he said, had told his fiancée that he was an undercover operative for the government and was being watched by the unnamed agency he worked for.

"The problem is that the truth may be unbelievable," Braun said. "She'll talk to the LAPD, but will anybody believe it?"

The man's mysterious past is the reason why his fiancée, Catherine Nebron, didn't immediately report his death to authorities, her attorney said. Braun said the dead man, whose name he said he couldn't remember, had been suffering from cancer.

On the Fourth of July, the man, Nebron and two friends were in the parking lot of Bristol Farms on Wilshire Boulevard in Santa Monica when the man began feeling hot and sick, Braun said. They tried to cool him down with ice, but it didn't work and he died, Braun said.

The fiancée wasn't sure what to do with the body, but figured the same unnamed agency watching him would know that he died and would come for him, Braun said. Nebron parked the vehicle on Palisades Drive and left it because she "assumed they were tracking him," the lawyer said.

The woman went on a trip to Oregon, Braun said, and returned to find the vehicle still parked in the same spot. Nebron, he said, is "sort of in a state of shock" over the death of a man she knew for 17 years. She had lived in one room of the house while the weapons were locked in another, the attorney said.

"One of the mysteries of this guy is who he really is," Braun said.

Coroner Deputy Chief Ed Winter said an autopsy was completed Tuesday but a cause of death has yet to be determined. The man's body was badly decomposed, he said, and the man's identity remains a mystery.

Los Angeles Police Deputy Chief Kirk Albanese said detectives don't believe the death is the result of foul play. Albanese said the man was suffering from end-stage cancer and did not work for a government security agency, despite the man's claims about his past.

But questions remained about why the man had amassed so many weapons. On Tuesday, police were still performing background checks on the man's firearms.

"We don't think the weapons are illegal. We are taking them for public safety," said Sgt. David Craig of the LAPD's gang and narcotics division. He said investigators removed the weapons to ensure the ammunition and guns wouldn't be stolen from the home.

David Dwyer, president of the Palisades Homeowner Assn. #4, said no signs of hoarding, guns or ammunition were found during 2011 repairs in the town house.

"There were no guns or odd items that'd say we have a collector here," he said.

The man, who introduced himself as Bob Smith, was personable but private and didn't like to be bothered, Dwyer said.

The homeowner group, he said, never had a reason to question whether Bob Smith was his real name because Nebron owned the town house.

"There was no reason to suspect otherwise," Dwyer said.

[Atomic Punk]

Meanwhile... currently in CA, you can only buy one guy every 30 days. Good job CA! Gun laws work.

[Diego in Seattle]

Meanwhile... currently in CA, you can only buy one guy every 30 days.

Liar...you're buying a guy every night.

[Goober McTuber]

And then there's this:

A man with a home filled with guns and whose decomposed body was found in an SUV in Pacific Palisades was believed to be a human/alien hybrid secretly working with the U.S. government by his fiancée and a missing Oxnard woman who worked for her, according to the woman’s mother.

Dawn VadBunker was last seen by her family on the same day Jeffery Lash allegedly died. Lash has not been officially identified, but his former attorney confirmed his name to KTLA.

VadBunker’s mother believes her daughter has been caught in the middle of a mysterious death investigation and may be suffering from a mental breakdown. According to Laura VadBunker, her daughter believes Lash was an alien “sent to earth to protect us.”

“I can’t believe this,” Laura VadBunker told KTLA in a telephone interview. “It’s worse than a Twilight Zone movie and we’ve lived through hell.”

Lash’s body was discovered by police on July 17 in an SUV in the 1700 block of Palisades Drive. Police were alerted to the body by an attorney representing the victim’s fiancée Catherine Nebron, who also happens to be VadBunker’s employer.

Lash collapsed on July 4 in the parking lot of a Bristol Farms in Santa Monica, according to Nebron. She and VadBunker tried to help him, but Lash died, defense attorney Harlan Braun told KTLA.

Nebron and VadBunker believed Lash was a secret government agent, but not entirely human.

“He was part alien and part human and was out to save the world,” Laura VadBunker said.

Nebron didn’t notify authorities when Lash died because she thought the secret agencies he worked for would come and collect his body, she told Braun.

She left him in her SUV near their home and went to Oregon with VadBunker, whose family reported her missing two days later.

“It was craziness, it was nuts,” Braun said.

After two weeks, no one had come to get Lash’s body.

“When she came back, she was shocked that the agencies hadn’t picked him up,” Braun said. “So then she decided she’d better call police.”

Inside the home, detectives found more than 1,200 firearms — including handguns, rifles and shotguns — as well as more than 6 tons of ammunition, according Braun.

There were also a number of SUV’s modified for use on different types of terrains, including an amphibious vehicle, he said.

Braun also claimed police found $230,000 in cash, which his client knew nothing about.

As for VadBunker, she has still not returned from Oregon or called her parents or her children, her mother said.

She did send a letter in which she confirmed she was there when “Bob” died and that he “fought to stay alive,” according to her mother.

http://ktla.com/2015/07/22/dead-man-wit ... rd-mother/

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Nebron and VadBunker

Uhhhh...pray for them?


:|

[Mikey]

And then there's this:

A man with a home filled with guns and whose decomposed body was found in an SUV in Pacific Palisades was believed to be a human/alien hybrid secretly working with the U.S. government by his fiancée and a missing Oxnard woman who worked for her, according to the woman’s mother.

Dawn VadBunker was last seen by her family on the same day Jeffery Lash allegedly died. Lash has not been officially identified, but his former attorney confirmed his name to KTLA.

VadBunker’s mother believes her daughter has been caught in the middle of a mysterious death investigation and may be suffering from a mental breakdown. According to Laura VadBunker, her daughter believes Lash was an alien “sent to earth to protect us.”

“I can’t believe this,” Laura VadBunker told KTLA in a telephone interview. “It’s worse than a Twilight Zone movie and we’ve lived through hell.”

Lash’s body was discovered by police on July 17 in an SUV in the 1700 block of Palisades Drive. Police were alerted to the body by an attorney representing the victim’s fiancée Catherine Nebron, who also happens to be VadBunker’s employer.

Lash collapsed on July 4 in the parking lot of a Bristol Farms in Santa Monica, according to Nebron. She and VadBunker tried to help him, but Lash died, defense attorney Harlan Braun told KTLA.

Nebron and VadBunker believed Lash was a secret government agent, but not entirely human.

“He was part alien and part human and was out to save the world,” Laura VadBunker said.

Nebron didn’t notify authorities when Lash died because she thought the secret agencies he worked for would come and collect his body, she told Braun.

She left him in her SUV near their home and went to Oregon with VadBunker, whose family reported her missing two days later.

“It was craziness, it was nuts,” Braun said.

After two weeks, no one had come to get Lash’s body.

“When she came back, she was shocked that the agencies hadn’t picked him up,” Braun said. “So then she decided she’d better call police.”

Inside the home, detectives found more than 1,200 firearms — including handguns, rifles and shotguns — as well as more than 6 tons of ammunition, according Braun.

There were also a number of SUV’s modified for use on different types of terrains, including an amphibious vehicle, he said.

Braun also claimed police found $230,000 in cash, which his client knew nothing about.

As for VadBunker, she has still not returned from Oregon or called her parents or her children, her mother said.

She did send a letter in which she confirmed she was there when “Bob” died and that he “fought to stay alive,” according to her mother.

http://ktla.com/2015/07/22/dead-man-wit ... rd-mother/

I think I saw this skit on SNL back in the 70s or 80s.