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Actually I stand in (almost) awe of Cuda. He's one of the few posters who consistently lives up to his billing.mvscal wrote:Oh, dear. Is Cuda being mean to you, Mikey? Would you like me to have a talk with him about that?
WacoFan wrote:Flying any airplane that you can hear the radio over the roaring radial engine is just ghey anyway.... Of course, Cirri are the Miata of airplanes..
You take a large group of people in Illinois who voted early. You throw them in masses into yellow buses and send them to Cleveland armed with copies of voter registration cards. They then vote without even being asked for any type of identification or proof of residence whatsoever. Just one illustration to answer your question. Armed with multiple registration cards they could bounce all over the city. In theory.Felix wrote:
there is simply no way to turn these fake registrations into some sort of massive voting bloc designed to steal an election
John Boehner wrote:Boehner said. "In Congress, we have a red button, a green button and a yellow button, alright. Green means 'yes,' red means 'no,' and yellow means you're a chicken shit. And the last thing we need in the White House, in the oval office, behind that big desk, is some chicken who wants to push this yellow button.
huh? first time registrants not being asked for some kind of identification? wow, just wow seems pretty crazy to me but maybe they do things differently in Ohio...it's the responsibility of the voter registrar to match registrations and actual voters, but I'm sure all of the registrars and stalwart dems and a part of this dastardly attempt to circumvent the very foundation of democracyrozy wrote:They then vote without even being asked for any type of identification or proof of residence whatsoever.
WacoFan wrote:Flying any airplane that you can hear the radio over the roaring radial engine is just ghey anyway.... Of course, Cirri are the Miata of airplanes..
That's a nice way of dancing around the fact you have no proof.Cuda wrote:cut it out, feeldix.
Photographic proof wouldn't be enough for you, eyewitnesses wouldn't be enough, and the voters' own admissions wouldn't even be enough to convince you, so why don't you just knock off the bullshit and admit that you're OK with vote fraud.
any kind of proof of massive scale voter fraud would be more than acceptable to me....but the reality is that you can't provide it, thus you're reduced to more non sensical hyperbole and hysteriaCuda wrote: Photographic proof wouldn't be enough for you, eyewitnesses wouldn't be enough, and the voters' own admissions wouldn't even be enough to convince you, so why don't you just knock off the bullshit and admit that you're OK with vote fraud.
WacoFan wrote:Flying any airplane that you can hear the radio over the roaring radial engine is just ghey anyway.... Of course, Cirri are the Miata of airplanes..
how could there be this massive voter fraud when the election hasn't occurred yet...Cuda wrote:you'd still deny it was going on.
WacoFan wrote:Flying any airplane that you can hear the radio over the roaring radial engine is just ghey anyway.... Of course, Cirri are the Miata of airplanes..
Cuda wrote:
Me:I come up with some outlandish scenario that could never happen in the real world even if they could find enough gibbering dumbfucks willing to risk federal prison time to try and pull it off and then try and pass it off like it's actually plausible
If you believe this kind of crap can or is happening on a scale large enough to impact the outcome of a Presidential election, then you're even crazier than TVO and his 9-11 conspiracy theories. Period. Get yourself checked into a mental health facility.rozy wrote:You take a large group of people in Illinois who voted early. You throw them in masses into yellow buses and send them to Cleveland armed with copies of voter registration cards. They then vote without even being asked for any type of identification or proof of residence whatsoever. Just one illustration to answer your question. Armed with multiple registration cards they could bounce all over the city. In theory.
Whether this CAN happen or not, who knows. But it is the fear. Plenty of HRC supporters believe it already happened in several states in the primaries. Why not now?
mvscal wrote: But morons like you believe the 2000 and 2004 elections were "stolen."
http://www.brennancenter.org/content/re ... ter_purgesmvscal wrote:
Of course they are.
In Mississippi earlier this year, a local election official discovered that another official had wrongly purged 10,000 voters from her home computer just a week before the presidential primary.
In Muscogee, Georgia this year, a county official purged 700 people from the voter lists, supposedly because they were ineligible to vote due to criminal convictions. The list included people who had never even received a parking ticket.
In Louisiana, including areas hit hard by hurricanes, officials purged approximately 21,000 voters, ostensibly for registering to vote in another state, without sufficient voter protections.
absolutely right, there should be a universal and systematic method for purging voter rolls throughout the country...unfortunately, that's not what we have...we now have a system that can be manipulated by unscrupulous individuals...why do you suppose the vast majority of those being purged are groups that traditionally vote Democratic....mvscal wrote:Not only are they real, there are perfectly valid reasons for doing so. You should purge people from registration rolls who do not belong there.
I'm absolutely for the elimination of voter fraud....but as I've pointed out a number of times there is no realistic way to convert blocs of fraudulent registrations into fraudulent votes....a few might get through, but for the most part duplicate and ficticious registrations are being ferreted out....Oh, but you're all about stamping out vote fraud, right?
so you're saying the New York School of Law is writing propaganda?mvscal wrote:
I don't make any such supposition. Your opinion is based on a bullshit propaganda piece.
I don't know, but if one was illegally purged, that's one too many...why do you hate Voting RightsOK. How many were included? One? Two? Six hundred and ninety-nine? It's worthless.
okay dude, everyone understands your disdain for people that don't meet with your particular standards of what a "good American" is, but thankfully the majority of this country doesn't adhere to your sense of worthAlso minority and lower income voters ie the dregs of society are a bedrock liberal Democrat constituency and those people are far more likely to move frequently and/or be in prison than Republican voters requiring them to be purged more frequently.
and all of this publicity is obviously going to make it a lot easier to gather these "blocs" of people willing to risk jail time in order to cast illegal votes....You're an idiot. All you have to do is register in one state and vote absentee in another. College students and Katrina nogs, for example, are prime fodder for vote fraud. There are many other schemes as well to exploit state and local laws on the subject.
or, it could have been all 900...it's easy to use this type of flawed logic to promote a particular point of view...but the reality is that Voter Suppression is real whether you want to acknowledge it or not....mvscal wrote:
You don't know? So, for all you know the number was zero. Illegality requires intent. If one was purged then you have a clerical error not a criminal conspiracy as the New York School of Law knows quite well if you don't. They don't mention that, though. Why? Because they propagandizing simple minded tards like you. That's why.
what fucking facts? you simply peeled off on another of your racist rants...no offense, but I tend to scroll wheel past that kind of inane shit...if I've read one of them, I've read them all...you pretty much ran out of ways to couch racist terminology about 7,000 posts ago...sorryOf course I couldn't help but notice that you failed to address the facts in my statement.
there's no contradiction....in 2000 and 2004 the Reps were screaming about how ACORN was trying to steal the election, then when Bush won, the whole ACORN thing disappeared....if they were truly concerned about voter fraud they shouldn't have dropped it after Bush won, they should have pursued these fraudulent voters to the end of the earth and put them in jail where they belong....but I know the whole ACORN thing is merely a ploy to gird themselves to challenge any results they don't likeOf course I couldn't help but notice that you have contradicted yourself here. Which is it? Were Republican harpies screeching that ACORN was undermining the electoral process or were they remarkably when Bush won. It would seem to me that the two activities are mutually exclusive. You can't have it both ways.
Let me translate:LTS TRN 2 wrote:First of all, there is no "ACORN" scandal at all.
the study indicated that there were people purged from the voting roles that had never committed a crime...mvscal wrote:
1. Minorities commit a disproportinate amount of crime thus rendering them ineligible to vote in disproportionate numbers.
2. Minorities disproportionately vote Democrat.
3. Lower income people move more frequently and/or have no fixed address.
Care to dispute any of them or will you continue to cower behind your feeble squawkings of racism as if it will shield you from reality?
And if that doesn't happen, will you off yourself?LTS TRN 2 wrote:'Bama is going to destroy McBush and Brood Mare in pretty much every "red" state, as well as every single "swing" state.
mvscal wrote:I guess they'll just make it three and "Bammy" won't be doing much destroying.LTS TRN 2 wrote:'Bama is going to destroy McBush and Brood Mare in pretty much every "red" state, as well as every single "swing" state.
And let's remember, the GOP has stolen the last two presidential elections by the most outrageous and vile means imaginable.
McCain isn't going to win, no matter how much you wish for that not to be the case....he's going to be landslided no matter how much you insist that the election is still up for grabs...the republicans are turning on each other like starving animals-a sure sign that they already know what the outcome of the elections is going to be and it's not going to be pretty for the Reps....they have Bush to thank for thatmvscal wrote:
So when McCoot wins, there will be no squealing about stolen elections then, right?
No. Don't see that happening. He'll pull a Kerry.Felix wrote:the only one crying about a "stolen election" will be McCain, hence the reason why he's quit talking about issues and is now focusing on "the greatest threat to democracy" ACORN...he's girding himself to challenge the results...
I'm not predicting anythingTom In VA wrote:
But if it's a "landslide" like you predict, we won't even be anywhere near that territory.
Nobody is. Are you high ? The Democrats are capitalizing on their strategic manuevering throughout the past eight years. They outplayed the competition.Felix wrote: don't blame the Democrats for
1. McCain running a shitty campaign
2. McCain picking a running mate that is actually costing him votes with a number of key conservatives
3. McCain's obsessions while ignoring the fundamentals of the election (e.g. the issues)
True. However Obama will not be a navel gazing pussy. As evident by Felix and others, he will get a pass based on the premise of "cleaning up Bush's mess".mvscal wrote:Key difference is that I believe that we are more likely to be attacked with Onogger in office. Onogger is a navel gazing pussy, but McCoot is crazy as a shit house rat and I don't see anybody willing to step to that maniac.
Nice try. Too bad for you the traditional likely voter model is completely outdated. Even Gallup recognizes that fact by including an expanded likely voter model in their polling. You know, the one that shows Obama leading by 7 points. Oh, and how about the Pew poll that shows Obama leading by 19 points amongst voters who have already voted? How do you explain that away?mvscal wrote:What has become the "poll of record" here shows the race tightening.Felix wrote:...he's going to be landslided no matter how much you insist that the election is still up for grabs
http://www.gallup.com/poll/111568/Gallu ... ghtly.aspx
A 2 point lead isn't going get it done, spankshot.
When the popular vote becomes relevant, this poll will be relevantmvscal wrote:
What has become the "poll of record" here shows the race tightening.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/111568/Gallu ... ghtly.aspx
A 2 point lead isn't going get it done, spankshot.
why not present evidence that refutes it moronmvscal wrote:
What a load of shit. Onogger is not going to win Florida, North Carolina and Ohio. That map is nothing more than a liberal jerkoff fantasy.
DOMESTIC INTELLIGENCE. A PROCLAMATION.
By the President of the United States of America:
Whereas, It has become necessary to call into service, not only volunteers, but also portions of the militia of the States by draft, in order to suppress the insurrection existing in the United States, and disloyal persons are not adequately restrained by the ordinary processes of law from hindering this measure, and from giving aid and comfort in various ways to the insurrection. Now, therefore, be it ordered, that during the existing insurrection, and as a necessary measure for suppressing the same, all rebels and insurgents, their aiders and abettors within the United States, and all persons discouraging volunteer enlistments, resisting militia drafts, or guilty of any disloyal practice affording aid and comfort to the rebels against the authority of the United States, shall be subject to martial law, and liable to trial and punishment by courts-martial or military commission.
Second: That the writ of habeas corpus is suspended in respect to all persons arrested, or who are now, or hereafter during the rebellion shall be, imprisoned in any fort, camp, arsenal, military prisons, or other place of confinement, by any military authority, or by the sentence of any court-martial or military commission.
In witness whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and caused the seal of the United States to be affixed. Done at the City of Washington, this Twenty-fourth day of January, in 2009.
Barack H. Obama. By the President.
Felix wrote:you've become very bitter since you became jewish......
Kierland drop-kicking Wolftard wrote: Aren’t you part of the silent generation?
Why don’t you just STFU.
Of course. Why do you think I'm moving to Canada ?Martyred wrote:nice...it's all coming together...
mwahahaha...
Can you blame a kid for peeking under the tree on Christmas Eve?Goober McTuber wrote:Slow down, Tom, the right wing whack job meltage isn't supposed to start till next week.
Felix wrote:you've become very bitter since you became jewish......
Kierland drop-kicking Wolftard wrote: Aren’t you part of the silent generation?
Why don’t you just STFU.
look, I've said numerous times that I really don't give a fat rats ass who wins, either way the country is fucked, so in effect, my hopes were dashed a long time agomvscal wrote:That evidence will be presented next week. Don't get your hopes up...
Are you saying that you're hoping for a violent revolution, just because Obama gets elected?Tom In VA wrote:Careful mvscal.
We might be reading something like this soon:
DOMESTIC INTELLIGENCE. A PROCLAMATION.
By the President of the United States of America:
Whereas, It has become necessary to call into service, not only volunteers, but also portions of the militia of the States by draft, in order to suppress the insurrection existing in the United States, and disloyal persons are not adequately restrained by the ordinary processes of law from hindering this measure, and from giving aid and comfort in various ways to the insurrection. Now, therefore, be it ordered, that during the existing insurrection, and as a necessary measure for suppressing the same, all rebels and insurgents, their aiders and abettors within the United States, and all persons discouraging volunteer enlistments, resisting militia drafts, or guilty of any disloyal practice affording aid and comfort to the rebels against the authority of the United States, shall be subject to martial law, and liable to trial and punishment by courts-martial or military commission.
Second: That the writ of habeas corpus is suspended in respect to all persons arrested, or who are now, or hereafter during the rebellion shall be, imprisoned in any fort, camp, arsenal, military prisons, or other place of confinement, by any military authority, or by the sentence of any court-martial or military commission.
In witness whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and caused the seal of the United States to be affixed. Done at the City of Washington, this Twenty-fourth day of January, in 2009.
Barack H. Obama. By the President.
Just warming up and getting ready. I don't like to go into these kind of things cold.Goober McTuber wrote:Slow down, Tom, the right wing whack job meltage isn't supposed to start till next week.
