John McCain consorting with unrepentant terrorist

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:45 am

How else would you describe someone who confesses to plotting murders and bombings? Yet McCain went so far as to take 5000.00 from this unrepentant terrorist and to appear on his radio show to say, amongst other things, this...

"It's always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon, and congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opin ... 795.column

It is quite obvious that at least one of John McCain's infamous 7 houses is made of glass.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:15 am

lol

Yeah ...

Ayers = Liddy
Wright = Hagee

etc x many

Whatever gets you through the day, Bri'.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:32 pm

one thing monica is not is desperate

no, no, not in the least

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:38 pm

poptart wrote:lol

Yeah ...

Ayers = Liddy

No, Liddy is worse. Ayers' methods were wrong, but at least he was fighting for a just cause. Liddy was actively attempting to destroy democracy in America.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:52 pm

you really are a dildo, monica

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:07 pm

Cuda wrote:you really are a dildo, monica

Because he's right and you're wrong?

I can see how you might feel that way.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:33 pm

so what exactly was this "just cause" Ayer was setting off bombs to advance?

and while you're at it, maybe you could specify how many bombs Liddy set off?

dumbfuck

battery chucka' one · Post by **battery chucka' one** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 1:09 am

BSmack wrote:
poptart wrote:lol

Yeah ...

Ayers = Liddy
No, Liddy is worse. Ayers' methods were wrong, but at least he was fighting for a just cause. Liddy was actively attempting to destroy democracy in America.

But in whose eyes was Ayers' cause just? And do those eyes speak for all of us?

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:23 am

BSmack's thread is asinine.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 4:23 am

Liddy is pretty extreme, however he worked within the confines of the existing administration and followed the orders of the chief executive, himself a wack job. Liddy has never changed his position much, or what he believes was right. Not that I agree with him, but he was a henchman.

Ayers worked in a far more extreme way outside of the law to disrupt the government and kill non political people to make a political point. He has since recanted his past and has done a lot of community building.

I don't see how either of these connections should have any effect on which way to vote now. The 1970's were a different time that is so far removed from today that any past affiliation to people, places and events of that time have little relevance now.

But both of these shit heads are worthless in different ways, so pick your fucking poison.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 6:11 am

Bushice wrote:He (Ayers) has since recanted his past...

At the times he and B.O. were 'neighborhood buds,' Ayers had not recanted his past.
Quite the opposite.

Has he now changed his view?
Not that I've heard, and not that it matters in the very least to the discussion.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:09 pm

From what I understand they worked on community projects together, not bomb plots.

I still see no relevance between now and a decade or more ago.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:48 pm

At the time B.O and Ayers were doing things together, Ayers was an unrepentant terrorist.

If you're OK with that, then that is your own personal problem, not mine.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:36 pm

poptart wrote:At the time B.O and Ayers were doing things together, Ayers was an unrepentant terrorist.

If you're OK with that, then that is your own personal problem, not mine.

If you view Obama and Ayers serving on a board to improve schools in Chicago as a bad thing, you are a fucking moron. Period.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:28 am

Well, if you think so.

Myself, I think you're HEAVILY into denial.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:45 am

poptart wrote:Well, if you think so.

Myself, I think you're HEAVILY into denial.

I haven't done that shit in years. The high is alright, but the crash is a bitch.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:43 pm

How did FDR look on TV in 1929, Mace?

battery chucka' one · Post by **battery chucka' one** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:17 pm

Mace wrote:We didn't have TV in 1929, Cuda, so we had to listen to FDR on the radio. I only wish we'd had radio when Lincoln delivered the Gettysburg Address 'cause I'd really have liked to heard it rather than just memorizing it in 5th grade.

Mace

Are ya' sure we were listening to FDR on the radio in 1929? I mean, David Paterson is important and all, but I can't recall hearing him come across our airwaves (TV or radio for that matter). But then, I don't live in the Empire State.

Hoover was president in 1929.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:12 am

mvscal wrote:
Mace wrote:What I did say is that it's a waste of fucking time to be going after Obama about Ayers or Wright when there are much more important issues to be addressed.
No, not really. Onogroid can't run on his experience since he has none so he has been running on his alleged "judgement."

The fact that his political and social mentors are Rev. God Damn America and an unrepentant Weather Underground bomber speaks volumes about that n...igger's so called judgement.

Paling around with Watergate figures doesn't speak to McCain's judgement? Paling around with an Iran-Contra fiasco figure doesn't speak to McCain's judgement? Quit looking through your bukkake-covered glasses.

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:15 am

I am more partial to Liddy than I am to Ayers.

In fact, many of the actions Liddy and his co-conspirators engaged in, were responses to the rise of groups like "The Weathermen" and what not. Hence his perception that he was a "prisoner of war". At some point, there always seems to be a key decision made - "Does the end, justify the means". In the eyes of Liddy and Ayers both - that answer was yes.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:14 pm

Pedo in Seattle wrote:
Paling around with Watergate figures doesn't speak to McCain's judgement? Paling around with an Iran-Contra fiasco figure doesn't speak to McCain's judgement? Quit looking through your bukkake-covered glasses.

McDole is hardly "palling around" with anyone you dumb cocksucker.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:57 pm

Cuda wrote:
Pedo in Seattle wrote:
Paling around with Watergate figures doesn't speak to McCain's judgement? Paling around with an Iran-Contra fiasco figure doesn't speak to McCain's judgement? Quit looking through your bukkake-covered glasses.
McDole is hardly "palling around" with anyone you dumb cocksucker.

McCain on Liddy's radio program LAST YEAR.

LIDDY: Your experience in the Hanoi Hilton is remarkable. I mean, I put in five years in a prison [for masterminding the Watergate burglary, and associated crimes], but it was here in the United States, and they didn't torture - the only torture that I had was being forced to listen to rap music from time to time.

McCAIN: Well, you know, I'm proud of you. I'm proud of your family. I'm proud to know your son, Tom, who's a great and wonderful guy. And it's always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon. And congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great.

Any more gems Cooter?

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:09 pm

The argument could be made, however, that Liddy was acting out of a sense of duty.

"that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic,"

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:19 pm

That doesn't even approach "palling around".

How many evenings did McDole spend in Liddy's living room raising political money & planning a campaign?

Did McDole share an office with Ollie North?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:01 pm

Tom In VA wrote:The argument could be made, however, that Liddy was acting out of a sense of duty.

"that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic,"

So he subverted the Constitution to save it?

I don't think so.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:13 pm

I guess, depending on your point of view, the Democratic National Committee could be considered a "domestic enemy" of the Constitution.

But then again, so could the entire Bush Administration.

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:23 pm

BSmack wrote: So he subverted the Constitution to save it?

I don't think so.

Why not ? It's been done many times, before and since.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:22 am

BSmack wrote:
Tom In VA wrote:The argument could be made, however, that Liddy was acting out of a sense of duty.

"that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic,"
So he subverted the Constitution to save it?

I don't think so.

You got a problem with that, commie?

Sincerely,

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:46 am

Are B.O.'s associations not an issue because the economy blows, Mace?

If the economy was hummin' along well then it'd make sense to question Obama on such things?

Or not?

As mv said, B.O. certainly isn't running on any kind of record of accomplishment.
He's running on his alleged judgement and leadership ability.
That being the case, wanting to know why he's had the associations he has is certainly seem like fair questions to me.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:01 am

poptart wrote:Are B.O.'s associations not an issue because the economy blows, Mace?

If the economy was hummin' along well then it'd make sense to question Obama on such things?

Or not?

As mv said, B.O. certainly isn't running on any kind of record of accomplishment.
He's running on his alleged judgement and leadership ability.
That being the case, wanting to know why he's had the associations he has is certainly seem like fair questions to me.

If associations are all that important, why do you overlook McSame's?

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:47 am

Mace wrote:...inconsequential associations with Ayers or Wright.

And there you have it.

If they are inconsequential to you, so be it.
To me they are surely not, and particularly regarding the good reverend.

There is, in Chicago, a huge field full of churches one could choose to take their family to.
There is a huge field of 'spiritual advisors' one could choose to gain mentoring from ... for 20 years.
B.O. surely made his choices and they are very telling.
And even more telling is the way he dumped his choices like a snot-rag when his political career was threatened.

I think the guy is a total piece of shit.
His world view is warped and his political positions ought to make any reasonable person throw up in their mouff a little bit.

B.O. may have given some answers for his choices, his behavior and his associations, but they didn't fly with me.
If they did with you, again, so be it.

Diego, I'm not giving McCain a pass on anything.
He's not getting my vote either.

It's just that I find McCain to be a run-of-the-mill piece of shit politician.

B.O., on the other hand, is one a very short list of most despicable candidates I have ever seen run for president.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:01 pm

Sorry Poptart, all I can think of when you bring up Wright is this guy.

Maybe the real problem is organized religion and the role it plays in our politics.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:03 pm

When did Drew Carey lose the horn-rims?

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:14 pm

Pedo in Seattle wrote:
If associations are all that important, why do you overlook McSame's?

Because they're not even close to comparable you dumb cocksucker.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:20 pm

Cuda wrote:
Pedo in Seattle wrote:
If associations are all that important, why do you overlook McSame's?
Because they're not even close to comparable you dumb cocksucker.

True, they're far worse.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:44 pm

Monica, you argue like a high school girl

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:49 pm

Cuda wrote:Monica, you argue like a high school girl

I suppose it beats your usual modus operandi of arguing like a spastic imbicile.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:57 pm

nice job, B-Melty, you've dropped both IKIABWAY, and I'm rubber, You're Glue in consecutive posts

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:10 pm

Cuda wrote:nice job, B-Melty, you've dropped both IKIABWAY, and I'm rubber, You're Glue in consecutive posts

Obviously you're not familiar with either of those logical constructions. You should stick to marketing foreclosed meth labs.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:19 pm

back away from the keyboard, Monica, the Submit button is not your friend right now