are any of you McCain voters concerned about this?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:32 pm

If Rev Wright is dictating who you vote for, you are a fucking moron. Period. Full stop.

Y2K · Post by **Y2K** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:37 pm

That's it...I'm voting Obama. Any white guy that pals around with Rev. Wright probaly conspires with Terrorists. Has Acorn tried to fix the election for him yet.

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:41 pm

JSC4wd is such a tard

wright is Obamas former Rev, wow, what a dumfuck. After this, Chip might either go into cardiac arrest or run over the neighbors dog.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:32 pm

mvscal wrote: This would be the first time anybody has tried to make the argument that a state governor was not qualified to be President never mind the fact that she is on the ticket as vice-president (a do nothing job if ever there was one).

I haven't seen anybody make the argument that a state governor is not qualified to be President....the argument is that SHE'S not qualified to be either a President or a Vice President....she makes a bag of hammers look like Albert fucking Einstein

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:43 pm

mvscal wrote:Please identify the intelligence requirements for President and Vice-President outlined in the Constitution.

there aren't any so I guess you win

JayDuck · Post by **JayDuck** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:45 pm

mvscal wrote:Please identify the intelligence requirements for President and Vice-President outlined in the Constitution.

Its implied by the fact that only land owners were meant to be eligible to vote, ensuring that the dumshit masses didn't get a say.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:48 pm

mvscal wrote:Please identify the intelligence requirements for President and Vice-President outlined in the Constitution.

Strictly speaking, we could elect Michael Jackson and Charles Manson President and Vice President. That doesn't make it a good fucking idea.

JayDuck · Post by **JayDuck** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:52 pm

R-Jack wrote: Yet noting about the actuall canidates.

Sorry, no vote for you. It's implied.

....moving on...

Smart people don't want dumbfucks to lead them. Your inability to see that, or spell, disqualifies you.

JayDuck · Post by **JayDuck** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:57 pm

mvscal wrote:
Which, of course, makes perfect sense. Only people with skin in the game should be allowed to vote. Giving fucked up losers with zero tax liability the privilege of voting will surely destroy this country.

As an elitist, myself, we are in agreement on this issue. Though land ownership is no longer a realistic critera, I would like to see some level of nonfucktardery displayed before you are allowed to vote.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:01 pm

BSmack wrote:
mvscal wrote:Please identify the intelligence requirements for President and Vice-President outlined in the Constitution.
Strictly speaking, we could elect Michael Jackson and Charles Manson President and Vice President. That doesn't make it a good fucking idea.

That is what is going to happen if your boy OMessiah /Savior /The Third Coming / We need Change/Tax the Republican Cheats who started this Economic Problem is elected. That will be some major change...

I can just see it now..the Rev Wright holding his Quran or whatever the Muslim book is and saying Do you swear, so help you GODDAMN AMERICA..!!

Fucking save us all...please...

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:03 pm

Derron wrote:That is what is going to happen if your boy OMessiah /Savior /The Third Coming / We need Change/Tax the Republican Cheats who started this Economic Problem is elected. That will be some major change...

I can just see it now..the Rev Wright holding his Quran or whatever the Muslim book is and saying Do you swear, so help you GODDAMN AMERICA..!!

Fucking save us all...please...

Do you always post right after dropping 6 hits of blotter?

JayDuck · Post by **JayDuck** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:03 pm

Derron wrote: I can just see it now..the Rev Wright holding his Quran or whatever the Muslim book is and saying Do you swear, so help you GODDAMN AMERICA..!!

Fucking save us all...please...

I can imagine The Pope reading from the Quran too.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:33 am

BSmack wrote:
Derron wrote:That is what is going to happen if your boy OMessiah /Savior /The Third Coming / We need Change/Tax the Republican Cheats who started this Economic Problem is elected. That will be some major change...

I can just see it now..the Rev Wright holding his Quran or whatever the Muslim book is and saying Do you swear, so help you GODDAMN AMERICA..!!

Fucking save us all...please...
Do you always post right after dropping 6 hits of blotter?

No... because that would make me a liberal who's is too fucking high to understand why a vote for OMuslim is a vote for pure socialism....

JayDuck · Post by **JayDuck** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:51 am

88 wrote:
You are kidding, right? If you took ballots away from the fucktards, the Democrats would lose every race.

Well, you're just wrong there. If you let only educated people vote, the republicans would lose every time.

http://www.census.gov/acs/www/Products/ ... 02T040.htm

Top 15 states (districts) by percentage of college graduates

1 District of Columbia 42.5 41.2 43.8
2 Massachusetts 35.5 34.7 36.3
3 Colorado 33.5 30.4 36.6
4 Maryland 33.1 32.1 34.1
5 Connecticut 32.9 31.7 34.1
6 Virginia 31.7 30.7 32.7
7 New Jersey 31.6 31.1 32.1
8 Vermont 30.8 29.6 32.0
9 New Hampshire 30.2 29.0 31.4
10 Minnesota 29.8 29.0 30.6
11 Washington 29.7 28.5 30.9
12 New York 29.3 28.8 29.8
13 California 28.5 28.2 28.8
14 Illinois 28.1 27.1 29.1
15 Alaska 28.0 26.7 29.3

Bottom 15

36 Arizona 23.2 22.2 24.2
36 Wisconsin 23.2 22.0 24.4
38 South Carolina 22.7 20.2 25.2
39 Idaho 22.6 21.0 24.3
40 Iowa 22.2 21.0 23.4
41 Ohio 21.9 21.4 22.4
42 Tennessee 21.0 19.8 22.2
43 Oklahoma 20.7 19.9 21.5
44 Alabama 20.6 19.8 21.4
44 Indiana 20.6 18.3 22.9
46 Louisiana 20.4 19.2 21.6
47 Arkansas 19.7 18.5 20.9
48 Kentucky 18.8 18.0 19.6
49 Nevada 18.6 17.6 19.6
50 Mississippi 17.7 16.5 18.9
51 West Virginia 16.1 14.8 17.4

And like the democrat pretty much always does, Obama is leading among college educated voters.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:59 am

George Will thinks he's a Baseball expert too.

" Before we were married, my wife had a cat. I had him neutered and declawed and re-named him George Will"
- Pat Buchanan

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:41 am

JayDuck wrote: As an elitist, myself, we are in agreement on this issue. Though land ownership is no longer a realistic critera, I would like to see some level of nonfucktardery displayed before you are allowed to vote.

You said you weren't an elitist, just better than others, so why the sea change?

And why is land ownership no longer a realistic criteria? Because you don't own any land would be my guess.

No matter that, a lately self appointed elitist of your stature has no use for voters. Who needs 'em, when we've got JayPunk around to tell us what's up?

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:03 am

88 wrote:
JayDuck wrote:
mvscal wrote:
Which, of course, makes perfect sense. Only people with skin in the game should be allowed to vote. Giving fucked up losers with zero tax liability the privilege of voting will surely destroy this country.
As an elitist, myself, we are in agreement on this issue. Though land ownership is no longer a realistic critera, I would like to see some level of nonfucktardery displayed before you are allowed to vote.
You are kidding, right? If you took ballots away from the fucktards, the Democrats would lose every race. What voter is ACORN targeting? And for whom are they doing it?

I think we need only one serious ballot reform measure. You should have to register your thumb print in order to vote, and you should have to provide your thumb print on your ballot when you cast your vote. We have very sophisticated imaging systems these days. You don't even need ink. Wouldn't take 1 minute. And it would cut the horseshit and corruption out of the balloting.

Of course we'd still have to listen to fucktard commercials 24/7.

That would be unfair. Many voters that can't speak English don't know the translation for thumb. And the color of ink needs to be sorted out - black would be racist. And the alcohol wipes for cleaning thumbs would harm the environment.

Sincerely,

Pelosi, Reid & Co....

Uncle Fester · Post by **Uncle Fester** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:35 am

mvscal wrote:Please identify the intelligence requirements for President and Vice-President outlined in the Constitution.

Considering that we've had eight years of Dubya, the dumbest president in U.S. history, there obviously are no such requirements.

And considering that Nutsy McCain is 110 years old, prone to skin cancer, and an outburst or two away from stroking out, I'd say the choice of Vice President is very important. You might be fine with Caribou Barbie at the helm, but the rest of us are just a TAD bit concerned.

no-F-N-Joke · Post by **no-F-N-Joke** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:41 am

Jsc810 wrote:I'm voting for McCain, I just can't get past Obama's 20+ year close relationship with the racist Rev. Wright.

But that doesn't mean I'm entirely happy either. And when someone much smarter than me like George Will says that Palin is not qualified, well, it makes me pause.

You do realize, this is the same George Will that did not like Ronald Reagan or the first Bush. Fuck George Will and his pandering to stay on the liberal talk shows.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:34 am

no-F-N-Joke wrote: You do realize, this is the same George Will that did not like Ronald Reagan

oh no, he didn't like the President whose name Republicans pull like a gun?

Fucking heresy, lynching is too good for him....

_Porter_ · Post by **_Porter_** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:38 am

Jsc810 wrote:I'm voting for McCain, I just can't get past Obama's 20+ year close relationship with the racist Rev. Wright.

But that doesn't mean I'm entirely happy either. And when someone much smarter than me like George Will says that Palin is not qualified, well, it makes me pause.

Aren't you from the South? I don't know if you've ever been to a Southern Baptist service (I've only been to a wedding), but Rev. Wright's views represent those of a majority of black preachers around the country. I've been to one service, therefore it must be true :D. Seriously, rule #1 of speaking before a crowd is "know your audience". He's saying what his congregation wants to hear.

Now personally that doesn't excuse some of his comments, though many were taken out of context (God damn America, for instance), but I'm torn between the ghetto axiom of "you are who you roll with" towards Obama and the fact that most ministers/preachers/priests have more extreme views towards everything than their average congregation attendee.

Personally, I was torn between voting for McCain and Obama until I saw what a sellout McCain had become and who he chose as a running mate. Sorry, but with a guy that old, the veep choice comes into play bigtime. Obama chose a guy, who while he annoyingly speaks in the third person way too often, is highly experienced and if anything is more than qualified for the job, and McCain chose a piece of eye candy with incredibly extremist views, who if she were to become prez, would likely replace 2-3 Supreme Court Justices. The court needs balance to maintain its purpose in the checks and balances role in our government and frankly Palin's potential choices of justices scare the fuck out of me.

Uncle Fester · Post by **Uncle Fester** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:46 am

It wasn't too long ago that blacks couldn't eat lunch at the counter, sit in the front of the bus, or go to a decent university unless accompanied by members of the National Guard. If there's a bit of a delay in "getting over" the shitty hand they were dealt, I don't blame them.

I'm more worried about shit like this, which is par for the course in Republican Land:

OCTOBER 7--Days after federal officials agreed to an $85 billion bailout of American International Group, the insurance firm spent more than $440,000 for a corporate retreat at a swanky California resort. An invoice from the week-long getaway, a copy of which you'll find below, was obtained by the congressional panel that has been holding hearings this week about Wall Street collapses and executive excess. The late-September AIG gathering at the St. Regis Resort in Monarch Beach cost $443,343, according to the invoice. The six-figure sum covered hotel rooms, banquets, golf fees, and spa services at the resort south of Los Angeles. However, company funds apparently were not spent on exploding cakes or urinating ice statues.

-from The Smoking Gun

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:49 am

_Porter_ wrote: Personally, I was torn between voting for McCain and Obama until I saw what a sellout McCain had become and who he chose
as a running mate. Sorry, but with a guy that old, the veep choice comes into play bigtime. Obama chose a guy, who while he annoyingly speaks in the third person way too often, is highly experienced and if anything is more than qualified for the job, and McCain chose a piece of eye candy with incredibly extremist views, who if she were to become prez, would likely replace 2-3 Supreme Court Justices. The court needs balance to maintain its purpose in the checks and balances role in our government and frankly Palin's potential choices of justices scare the fuck out of me.

Checks and balances ....

Obama wins he has a mandate for the most part. Both houses.

McCain wins - unlikely - and dies - probably unlikely - Palin will have to get her appointees through both houses. She won't.

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:51 am

Uncle Fester wrote:It wasn't too long ago that blacks couldn't eat lunch at the counter, sit in the front of the bus, or go to a decent university unless accompanied by members of the National Guard. If there's a bit of a delay in "getting over" the shitty hand they were dealt, I don't blame them.

Then elect a real american black guy. Obama is a poser.

Also, join me in setting up a voluntary fund for reparations and contribute to it.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:39 am

Porter wrote:(Palin is) a piece of eye candy with incredibly extremist views

What are her incredibly extremist views?

As I see it, her position on issues tends to show an appreciation for the values and ideals that made our country a great place ... once upon a time.

B.O., on the other hand, is undeniably ... FAR left.

That doesn't concern you, Mr fair and balanced?

Jerkovich · Post by **Jerkovich** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:08 pm

Will is a freaken nut hanger that is covering his ass just in case Osama gets into the Black House. He doesn't want to incur the wrath of the ALL MIGHTY ONE.

no-F-N-Joke · Post by **no-F-N-Joke** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:47 pm

Uncle Fester wrote:It wasn't too long ago that blacks couldn't eat lunch at the counter, sit in the front of the bus, or go to a decent university unless accompanied by members of the National Guard. If there's a bit of a delay in "getting over" the shitty hand they were dealt, I don't blame them.

I'm more worried about shit like this, which is par for the course in Republican Land:

OCTOBER 7--Days after federal officials agreed to an $85 billion bailout of American International Group, the insurance firm spent more than $440,000 for a corporate retreat at a swanky California resort. An invoice from the week-long getaway, a copy of which you'll find below, was obtained by the congressional panel that has been holding hearings this week about Wall Street collapses and executive excess. The late-September AIG gathering at the St. Regis Resort in Monarch Beach cost $443,343, according to the invoice. The six-figure sum covered hotel rooms, banquets, golf fees, and spa services at the resort south of Los Angeles. However, company funds apparently were not spent on exploding cakes or urinating ice statues.

-from The Smoking Gun

Listen... I understand you just got let out of prison and are just getting reajusted to freddom. But living on the "DOwn Low" on the streets give you not right to segregate prison dick, from street salami. Now would you please look at the voting records of the 1964 Civil Rights Act before you make yourself look like an idiot.

Totals are in "Yea-Nay" format:
By party
The original House version:[9]

Democratic Party: 152-96 (61%-39%)
Republican Party: 138-34 (80%-20%)
The Senate version:[9]

Democratic Party: 46-21 (69%-31%)
Republican Party: 27-6 (82%-18%)
The Senate version, voted on by the House:[9]

Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%-37%)
Republican Party: 136-35 (80%-20%)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964

Do you see the difference? And don't give me bullshtit about these being southern democraps! because the last time I checked, Al Gore sr. and Sen. KKK Byrd NEVER! lef the party!

and I Quote

Most Democrats from the Southern states opposed the bill, including Senators Albert Gore Sr. (D-TN), J. William Fulbright (D-AR), and Robert Byrd (D-WV).

So much for your ideaology.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:16 pm

Uncle Fester wrote:
mvscal wrote:Please identify the intelligence requirements for President and Vice-President outlined in the Constitution.
Considering that we've had eight years of Dubya, the dumbest president in U.S. history, there obviously are no such requirements.

And considering that Nutsy McCain is 110 years old, prone to skin cancer, and an outburst or two away from stroking out, I'd say the choice of Vice President is very important. You might be fine with Caribou Barbie at the helm, but the rest of us are just a TAD bit concerned.

goddam, Fester! You make it sound pretty tempting to vote GOP.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:08 pm

Yeah, I just can't understand why the GOP isn't making a bigger deal over Barrydouche's church affiliations.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:09 pm

Sudden Sam wrote:
Maybe it's not "incredibly extremist", but wanting fairy tales taught as fact worries me a little.

Kid's image is plastered all over the internet in various states of drunkenness. Kid gets knocked up (again) by age 17.

Fine, fine "leadership potential" there.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:13 pm

Frankly, I think Palin should be prosecuted for fraud, not rewarded with a high office, for her out-and-out falsehoods she's claiming as fact.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:19 pm

Dinsdale wrote: Yeah, I just can't understand why the GOP isn't making a bigger deal over Barrydouche's church affiliations.

Me neither

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:19 pm

no-F-N-Joke wrote: Now would you please look at the voting records of the 1964 Civil Rights Act before you make yourself look like an idiot.

Yeah, and most of you liberal douchebags probably don't even know that Abraham Lincoln was a Republican. Just like John McCain and Sarah Palin. So there.

Nishlord · Post by **Nishlord** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:40 pm

poptart wrote:
Porter wrote:(Palin is) a piece of eye candy with incredibly extremist views
What are her incredibly extremist views?

As I see it, her position on issues tends to show an appreciation for the values and ideals that made our country a great place ... once upon a time.

B.O., on the other hand, is undeniably ... FAR left.

That doesn't concern you, Mr fair and balanced?

This is why the rest of the world laughs at America. And are already starting to wonder the Chinese Century is going to be like.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:43 pm

Nishlord wrote:This is why the rest of the world laughs at America. And are already starting to wonder the Chinese Century is going to be like.

So which old European power do we most resemble circa 1908? I'm thinking we most resemble you chaps. But I'll consider an argument for Germany.

no-F-N-Joke · Post by **no-F-N-Joke** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:46 pm

BSmack wrote:
Nishlord wrote:This is why the rest of the world laughs at America. And are already starting to wonder the Chinese Century is going to be like.
So which old European power do we most resemble circa 1908? I'm thinking we most resemble you chaps. But I'll consider an argument for Germany.

I'm throwing my hat in for the Ottoman Empire, to many similarities.

Nishlord · Post by **Nishlord** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:47 pm

You're all wrong.

The Balkans.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:56 pm

Nishlord wrote:You're all wrong.

The Balkans.

I know mv's repeated postings regarding his desire to initiate "ethnic cleansing" can be distracting, but I'm not seeing that comparison. But do feel free to elaborate on your thought.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:05 pm

no-F-N-Joke wrote: I'm throwing my hat in for the Ottoman Empire, to many similarities.

Nishlord wrote:You're all wrong.

The Balkans.

Wow... it's generally the Ugly Americans that need to be told to "crack a fucking book sometime."

Unless that was some weird reference to Americans being forced into Islam?

JayDuck · Post by **JayDuck** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:46 pm

88 wrote:
JayDuck wrote:
88 wrote:
You are kidding, right? If you took ballots away from the fucktards, the Democrats would lose every race.
Well, you're just wrong there. If you let only educated people vote, the republicans would lose every time.
Not so fast, my uneducated friend. You might want to peruse this before you rely on worthless census data:

http://people-press.org/report/242/beyond-red-vs-blue

Or I could just look at the polling data, which has Obama leading McCain among voters with a college education.