It's Raider week

trev · Post by **trev** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 5:06 pm

Make sure you get your pre-game takes in. Do you all feel like men?

RJ, come on my sweets, let's do this.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:23 am

I had hopes that the Blots would not have anything to play for in this game and would be resting starters.
Not the case.
Playoff seeding is on the line.

I didn't care for the look of the Raider team last week v. the Faguars.
Little too much quit was evident.

Sorry to say, Oakland is gonna get THUMPED.

LT all day long.
Raiders fall behind and JaFlubber tosses a couple picks .... at least.

Raider fan heads to the off-season basking in the 4-12 glow of actually doubling last season's win total.

woot!

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:32 pm

tLT will be off the field after halftime, once the Bolts build up a 21 point lead and the rushing title is wrapped.

trev · Post by **trev** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:01 pm

Pop, you might have a slight chance. I think the Chargers will pick rest over 3rd seed. They don't care who they play.

trev · Post by **trev** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:21 pm

mvscal wrote:
trev wrote:Pop, you might have a slight chance. I think the Chargers will pick rest over 3rd seed. They don't care who they play.
Stupid take. They'll pick rest and the three seed.

You're right.

Niiiice one.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:58 pm

I think Sebass is done for the day after trying to run Sproles down.

trev · Post by **trev** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:56 am

You all are still men. It's only a game.

How about Philip taking on the whole stadium?

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:01 am

the Chargers have positioned themselves to once again dash the hopes of all Bolt fans.....

come on, it's tradition.....

trev · Post by **trev** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:05 am

Felix wrote:the Chargers have positioned themselves to once again dash the hopes of all Bolt fans.....

come on, it's tradition.....

This team hasn't reach full maturity yet. But hey, you never know what'll happen.

At least it's better than sitting home at this point.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:08 am

The game was close to what I expected.

LT ran for a little less than I imagined, and Russell looked a little better than I imagined -- but he did hand the ball over two times.

That'll happen.

Rhodes has run for over 100 in consecutive weeks, after having seen very little action all year.
Makes me look at Fargas' impressive exploits this year with a different eye.

It's more the O-line doing a good job in the running game than anything else.

Oakland desperately needs more speed at WR, and they could use a speedy little 'scat-back' type RB to get a few carries a game too.

Needs
Retain coaching staff -- minus Son of Buddy, who is on the way out the door
D-Line
Safety
WR
O-Line

Oakland selects -- DE Chris Long (son of Howie) in the 1st rd

Me thinks.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:07 am

Russell seems to have a lot of potential. Give him some experience, a good OL and some decent receivers and he could develop into a great QB.

Is that asking too much?

If the Bolts advance past the first round it will be more because of their defense than their offense. True, Rhodes went for 100+ but Jamal Williams was not playing. Hopefully he will be healthy next week.

When Rivers has time to throw he is a very accurate passer. Put some pressure on him and he's prone to making dumb mistakes.

Howie's son playing for the Raiduhs would be excellent Karma.

trev · Post by **trev** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:29 am

Mikey nailed it.

And I'm already looking ahead a couple years to some competitive ball vs. the Duhs.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:58 am

I've expressed a fair amount of negativism about Russell in here.
I think perhaps it's sort of a 'bear market' mentality that I've developed.
The Raiders are clearly in a bear market -- 4-12, 5-11, 4-12, 2-14, 4-12.
So whenever there is the slightest hint of 'bad' news ...... expectation of the worst is the knee-jerk reaction.
I've seen some red flags on Russell.

But for a guy starting just his 2nd game, and with a very limited cast of characters supporting him, he looked fairly impressive.

I saw a draft piece with Phil Simms once where he said the whole 'it' deal when people gush over certain QB's is WAY overblown.
A QB appearing to have 'it' doesn't mean squat, in his view.
Because you just never know.

He said the overwhelming factors to consider in looking at a potential NFL QB are his physical tools.
Russell is impressive.
Big guy, big arm, above-average mobility.
I'm actually glad his mobility is only good and not great.
Much less apt to think run first.
He's a passer.

I just question his intellect, .... and maybe his weight.

I've told some people I feared Russell might not be bright enough to be a successful QB.
I said he sounds dumb when he speaks.

Some have replied, no, he's fine, -- that's just the way he talks.

I'd feel better about that if we were in a bull market.

trev · Post by **trev** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:03 am

I'm a QB visionary. Russel is going to be good.

Of course he'll need some help. I think Lane has been a bit too negative
about him.

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:18 am

...why all the negativity about the Duh O-line? Hell they had a huge push against the Bolt 3-4 all day. Granted Big Jamal wasn't in there but they didn't look half bad. Russell will be a stud.

Bring on the Titans. Rivers is a pocket passer, I can't remember the last pass he completed rolling out! Honest, if he's rolling, he's pathetic. Stay in the pocket Phillip and we have a chance to win a playoff game. Chambers is definitely a top flight receiver. With Gates, LT, and Chambers and continued returns by Sproles we have the tools to make some noise. The defense I believe ended up second in the NFL, and they are improving....Go Bolts

BTW..DOTRF..how is it looking up at the Duh's?

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:29 am

Decent mobility plus large size equals pretty hard to bring down. Plus that arm is a fucking cannon. If he learns the touch and control his potential is unlimited. The mental part, I don't know. I've never heard him talk but his decision making seemed to get better today as the game went on. I was ready to see him fold early under the Bolts' pass rush, and his first pass semed to confirm that. But he turned out to be a lot better than I expected. Next year could be interesting...

Sirfindafold · Post by **Sirfindafold** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:17 pm

Agree with much thats been said about JaMarcus R.

But what about Rivers? I certainly don't follow the chargers but after watching him play a couple games and seeing his mannerisms, I would say he's about as good as Ryan Leaf.

I think chargers would fare just as well with leaf at qb if he had LT, Gates, Chambers and the same o-line. Not to mention a decent defense.

comments?

Sirfindafold · Post by **Sirfindafold** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:15 pm

mvscal wrote:
Sirfindafold wrote: I would say he's about as good as Ryan Leaf.
You're an idiot.

I see one asshole disgharger agrees with me.

anyone else?

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:04 pm

ChargerMike wrote: BTW..DOTRF..how is it looking up at the Duh's?

It blows, since I was really looking forward to seeing the postmark on 'tarts envelope.

Then again, the last time the Chiefs drafted in the top 5 they picked up Derrick Thomas.

chargerfan · Post by **chargerfan** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:08 pm

poptart wrote:Oakland desperately needs more speed at WR

I hear Randy Moss is a free agent after this season. Only signed a 1 year deal with NE.

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:06 pm

chargerfan wrote:
poptart wrote:Oakland desperately needs more speed at WR
I hear Randy Moss is a free agent after this season. Only signed a 1 year deal with NE.

...RACK

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:16 pm

mvscal wrote:
ChargerMike wrote:Bring on the Titans.
I'd rather see the Browns, personally. I don't like this matchup at all.

...ditto..However, the Chargers held the Titans to 240 total yards at Tennessee in a comeback win. Vince Young scares me ,but is dealing with a Hammy. Collins if he plays will be running for his life.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 12:50 am

Sirfindafold wrote: I certainly don't follow the chargers

obviously

Sirfindafold · Post by **Sirfindafold** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:03 pm

Mikey wrote:
Sirfindafold wrote: I certainly don't follow the chargers
obviously

Then tell me the difference between rivers and leaf. I've yet to see it.

Sirfindafold · Post by **Sirfindafold** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:01 pm

mvscal wrote:6,688 pasing yards, 45 TDs, 25 Ints, 60.8%, 86.6 passer rating, 1 pro bowl, 25-7 record as a starter.

Leaf:

3,666 passing yards, 14 TDs, 36 Ints, 48.4%, 50.0 passer rating, 0 pro bowls, 4-17 record as a starter, out of professional football.

The next time you type something intelligent will be the first time.

Sirfindafold wrote:But what about Rivers? I certainly don't follow the chargers but after watching him play a couple games and seeing his mannerisms, I would say he's about as good as Ryan Leaf.

I think chargers would fare just as well with leaf at qb if he had LT, Gates, Chambers and the same o-line. Not to mention a decent defense.

try again.

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:23 am

Sirfindafold wrote:
mvscal wrote:6,688 pasing yards, 45 TDs, 25 Ints, 60.8%, 86.6 passer rating, 1 pro bowl, 25-7 record as a starter.

Leaf:

3,666 passing yards, 14 TDs, 36 Ints, 48.4%, 50.0 passer rating, 0 pro bowls, 4-17 record as a starter, out of professional football.
The next time you type something intelligent will be the first time.

Sirfindafold wrote:But what about Rivers? I certainly don't follow the chargers but after watching him play a couple games and seeing his mannerisms, I would say he's about as good as Ryan Leaf.

I think chargers would fare just as well with leaf at qb if he had LT, Gates, Chambers and the same o-line. Not to mention a decent defense.

try again.

..and that's why you should limit your drivel to the cooking forum...sorry Mikey, no offense

Sirfindafold · Post by **Sirfindafold** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:21 pm

mvscal wrote:
Sirfindafold wrote:I would say he's about as good as Ryan Leaf.
Yeah, he's "just like Ryan Leaf." Remember all those times when Ryan Leaf put the team on his shoulders after his leading receiver went out of the game early and his running game was completely stuffed to win in the playoffs? No?

No, I don't remember. I also don't remember the weapons leaf had to work with, but I'm sure they were all comparable. I'm sure the chargers defense at the time held all its opponents to 6 points, right?

But hey, its nice of you to show up after the dischargers finally win a playoff game.

coward.

T1B

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