What do you make of this?

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Sun May 14, 2006 5:00 pm

Muslims plan Da Vinci boycott

The Da Vinci Code, set to open in theatres next week, is a betrayal of Islam and should be boycotted, a Calgary Muslim leader says.

Sayed Soharwardy, president of the Islamic Supreme Council of Canada, said the film and bestselling novel it's based on mocks his religion by questioning one of Islam's most important prophets: Jesus Christ.

"Dan Brown used the real Jesus to propagate his fabricated re-search," he said."This kind of movie is not frequent but if we don't stand up to these movies, they'll become more frequent."

The movie, which opens May 19, suggests Jesus had a child with Mary Magdalene and the ancient bloodline still exists, a secret fiercely protected by a sect of the Catholic church.

Soharwardy said because the film taints the notion of Jesus -- the most oft-mentioned prophet in the Qur'an -- as pure and sinless, it could convince people the story is real.

The Islamic Supreme Council, which has about 200 local members, will hold its Da Vinci Code protest starting at 2 p.m., May 19 at the Al Madinah Calgary Islamic Centre at 5700 Falsbridge Drive, N.E.

http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Alberta/200 ... 0-sun.html

I wish those freaks would rip anyone who profits from this movie a new a-hole, but this is just to much for me to grasp.

Sayed Soharwardy, president of the Islamic Supreme Council of Canada, said the film and bestselling novel it's based on mocks his religion by questioning one of Islam's most important prophets: Jesus Christ.

WTF???
Is this guy trying to be funny, or do Muslims actually view Christ as a Prophet?
Since When?
I'm still a tad numb from reading that.
Is Jesus supposed to be the Muslims' Prophet who was sent down from Heaven to bestow knowledge and inspiration upon Islam when it comes to decapitations?

I don't get this at all...Mention Jesus around those freaks and they go into unholy lather mode...Islam_Tard had to be assing it up for his crew.

Hollywormwood crapping on the Holy Bible is easier for me to take then reading Stone_Age_Tard mention Jesus Christ and Islam is the same sentence.

Sorry Sayed, but your peoples actions speak louder then your empty words.

Donovan · Post by **Donovan** » Sun May 14, 2006 6:52 pm

tough love wrote:do Muslims actually view Christ as a Prophet?

Yes.

Is Jesus supposed to be the Muslims' Prophet who was sent down from Heaven to bestow knowledge and inspiration upon Islam when it comes to decapitations?

No.

I don't get this at all.

Shocker.

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Sun May 14, 2006 10:06 pm

^
Thanks for nothing.

fix · Post by **fix** » Sun May 14, 2006 10:45 pm

You're welcome.

Donovan · Post by **Donovan** » Mon May 15, 2006 4:04 am

GIGO, tl.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Mon May 15, 2006 4:04 am

Donovan wrote:
tough love wrote:do Muslims actually view Christ as a Prophet?
Yes.

Ditto.

Is Jesus supposed to be the Muslims' Prophet who was sent down from Heaven to bestow knowledge and inspiration upon Islam when it comes to decapitations?
No.

They believe that Jesus fulfilled the role that Christians believe John The Baprist had in making the way for the supreme enlightener.

I don't get this at all.
Shocker.

Ditto.

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Mon May 15, 2006 10:38 am

SunCoastSooner Wrote:mmed
They believe that Jesus fulfilled the role that Christians believe John The Baprist had in making the way for the supreme enlightener.

John The Baprist???

Sunny; I rov you rong time for at least bringing something, and I can't see how those freaks could possibly view Jesus as a Prophet, even if they suspiciously and conveniently say so with libby_like* empty words.

Whatever turns their messed up crank, I reacon.
Spinning Jesus Christ into being the guy who gets beheaded is rather telling.

It would be interesting to hear muslim_tard explain how their murdering fuc's justify doing the exact opposite of what Christ taught.
I'm sure it would have something to do with how their worlds human asswipe fetcher mohammed trumps the Holy Word of God.

* Poli_Point:
Me thinks that our heathen libby_tards learned a trick or two from opportunist muslim tard...Moral right to govern my ass. :twisted:

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Mon May 15, 2006 11:57 pm

tough love wrote:
SunCoastSooner Wrote:mmed
They believe that Jesus fulfilled the role that Christians believe John The Baprist had in making the way for the supreme enlightener.
John The Baprist???

Sunny; I rov you rong time for at least bringing something, and I can't see how those freaks could possibly view Jesus as a Prophet, even if they suspiciously and conveniently say so with libby_like* empty words.

Whatever turns their messed up crank, I reacon.
Spinning Jesus Christ into being the guy who gets beheaded is rather telling.

It would be interesting to hear muslim_tard explain how their murdering fuc's justify doing the exact opposite of what Christ taught.
I'm sure it would have something to do with how their worlds human asswipe fetcher mohammed trumps the Holy Word of God.

* Poli_Point:
Me thinks that our heathen libby_tards learned a trick or two from opportunist muslim tard...Moral right to govern my ass. :twisted:

That's their perspective. The Mandeans don't exactly appreciate what Christianity has to say about John the Baptist. But since you were obviously there you have more insight than the rest of us I suppose. Seriously TL you talk about all this as though you were present.

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Tue May 16, 2006 1:45 am

^
I didn't have to be there to know that The Son of God was not sayed the baptist.
Seriously S, you talk about Christianity as though you were a heathen.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Tue May 16, 2006 2:08 am

tough love wrote:^
I didn't have to be there to know that The Son of God was not sayed the baptist.
Seriously S, you talk about Christianity as though you were a heathen.

Tough I am not a Christian. I respect the values and morals that Christianity upholds but not the mythology. JMHO. The "fact" that he is the Son of God is an article of faith not accepted scientific fact. We'll all answer to someone/something or we won't but belittling a religion based on them having different articles of faith I find to be childisgh and juvenile. If you dislike what Islam has to say about Jesus being a prophet you should really google the people I previously mentioned (the Mandeans) and see just what they have to say about John the Baptist and Jesus. Now their beliefs I could understand offending Christians but I still think they are entitled to practice their faith.

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Tue May 16, 2006 11:03 am

If you dislike what Islam has to say about Jesus being a prophet you should really google the people I previously mentioned (the Mandeans) and see just what they have to say about John the Baptist and Jesus.

Now their beliefs I could understand offending Christians but I still think they are entitled to practice their faith.

I'll pass, thanks...Jesus is just alright with me.
Can't see the percentages in placing ones faith in the hands of fellow mortal beings, no matter how much they think they know.

As for your mohammeds;
If those fools are content with placing their eternal soul in the care of a fellow human, so be it.

Knock yourselves out.

When does a religion become a global threat?
How many must be murdered in the name of something before it becomes unacceptable to humankind?

I'll leave that for your big brain to answer.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Tue May 16, 2006 12:51 pm

tough love wrote:
If you dislike what Islam has to say about Jesus being a prophet you should really google the people I previously mentioned (the Mandeans) and see just what they have to say about John the Baptist and Jesus.

Now their beliefs I could understand offending Christians but I still think they are entitled to practice their faith.
I'll pass, thanks...Jesus is just alright with me.
Can't see the percentages in placing ones faith in the hands of fellow mortal beings, no matter how much they think they know.

As for your mohammeds;
If those fools are content with placing their eternal soul in the care of a fellow human, so be it.

Knock yourselves out.

When does a religion become a global threat?
How many must be murdered in the name of something before it becomes unacceptable to humankind?

I'll leave that for your big brain to answer.

Do you really want to compare death totals over the last 2,000 years between the religions of Islam and Christianity. I don't think you rerally do. The Christian Religion has been far more bloody than Islam has. I historicaly relative terms the religion of Islam has been far more peaceful and at times far more accepting than Christian Religions. Just sayin'. By your way of thinking Christianity would have become unacceptable to mankind long before now.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Tue May 16, 2006 1:54 pm

I'm not sure why any religious leader would "endorse" a movie like this. Basically, it's a fantasy epic. Religious leaders want nothing to do with fantasy epics...right?

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Tue May 16, 2006 3:10 pm

For those keeping score...

...tough love brought a baseball bat into the Theology Forum, and was quickly disarmed and beaten with her own baseball bat.

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan · Tue May 16, 2006 3:18 pm

Martyred wrote:For those keeping score...

...tough love brought a baseball bat into the Theology Forum, and was quickly disarmed and beaten with her own baseball bat.

I was trying to work out some kind of analogy involving Pauly Shore ranting about how much Carrot Top sucks, but yours is much more concise.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Tue May 16, 2006 5:24 pm

mvscal wrote:
SunCoastSooner wrote:The Christian Religion has been far more bloody than Islam has.
Are you fucking high? Pull your head out of your ass, idiot.

Throughout history? Yes. Today? No. But overall throughout history the Christian religion has been the bloodiest of just about any I can think of. They also had over a 600 year start on Islam.

Mvscal reffering to anyone as an idiot on a theology board =

Dr_Phibes · Post by **Dr_Phibes** » Tue May 16, 2006 9:00 pm

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote:
Martyred wrote:For those keeping score...

...tough love brought a baseball bat into the Theology Forum, and was quickly disarmed and beaten with her own baseball bat.

I was trying to work out some kind of analogy involving Pauly Shore ranting about how much Carrot Top sucks, but yours is much more concise.

brutal.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Tue May 16, 2006 9:49 pm

mvscal wrote:
SunCoastSooner wrote:Throughout history? Yes. Today? No. But overall throughout history the Christian religion has been the bloodiest of just about any I can think of.
You can't think of any because you are a fucking moron.

How do you suppose that Islam has spread from the Arabian Peninsula to Indonesia, Europe, the Atlantic coast of Africa and all points in between?

Do you think it was missionary work? Peaceful proselytization? Guess again, idiot. Islam spread throughout it's range by jihad and military conquest followed by the forcible conversion and cultural annihilation of subject populations.

There is no Christian conquerer to compare with the likes of Tamerlane or the Moghul Empire in central Asia. The conquest of Persia, Africa and Spain by Arab Muslims. The destruction of the Christian Byzantine Empire by the Turks. The decades of bloody warfare in the Balkans at the hands of the Turks.

There is nothing in Christian history even remotely comparable in scale.

Yeah the Holocaust didn't happen, right? German Christians didn't kill millions of Jews, Pollocks, Gypsies, czecks, ect. based on race and creed, huh?

Christians didn't invade the middle east on numerous different occasions and murder every man woman and child in numerous setllements and towns, right?

Christians in Spain, England, France, Germany, Austria, Italy, ect. didn't expell millions and kill millions of people who refused to convert to Christianity for over 1,600 years, right?

The Jews and Muslims of Speyer, who had co-habitated peacefully for atleast 300 years weren't massacred in wholesale by Christian Armies either, right?

It's just a myth that a bishop had to hide over a thousand Jews in cellars during riots where they burned Jews and any other non Christian in bonfires and at the stake in Mainz, Germany?

As far as the BYzantine Empire... I don't suppose Peter the Hermit had anything to do with it's downfall as he rushed across eastern Europe with his band of Christian lunatics, huh?

Christians in Constatinop[le didn't slaughter each other over who was really the Pope, right?

The Spanish were real fucking peaceful in their conversion of Native Americans when they reached the New World, huh?

Nobody is fooled by your obvious hatred for anything and anyone not Anglo-Saxon. It has become very apparent over the last few years that anyone not of the same descent as you are is simply not worthy of life. You would have been perfect as one of Hitler's cronies in 1938.

Go smoke more of Karl Rove's pole on the politics board cause your asnine revisionist history isn't going to fly in here without being called out.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Tue May 16, 2006 10:13 pm

mvscal wrote:
SunCoastSooner wrote:Yeah the Holocaust didn't happen, right? German Christians didn't kill millions of Jews, Pollocks, Gypsies, czecks, ect. based on race and creed, huh?
That was done in the name of God? I guess I was right. You truly are a dumbfuck. The Nazis were neo-pagan occultists not Christians.

The party was the German people weren't and they at the very least were complacent in the event.

Christians didn't invade the middle east on numerous different occasions and murder every man woman and child in numerous setllements and towns, right?
No they didn't. The Crusades were in no small part a response against Islamic aggression. The Middle East was Christian land, idiot.

Keep revising history sdome high school drop out who never took a lick of college history might just believe you.

Christians in Spain, England, France, Germany, Austria, Italy, ect. didn't expell millions and kill millions of people who refused to convert to Christianity for over 1,600 years, right?
No, they didn't. Why don't you go ahead and provide a source for those numbers.

Here are just a handful from the first few pages of Google but I am sure you're going to tell us how they are ALL incorrect, right?

http://www.brainyhistory.com/events/156 ... 34639.html
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/chrono.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_anti-Semitism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition
http://www.sundayschoolcourses.com/inq/inqcont.htm
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... y/med.html
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... ytime.html

Oh and keep sucking Muslim cock, you ignorant douchebag.

Ummmm yeah I was the same poster who was lambasted just a few weeks ago for saying turn the entire middle east into the worlds largest parking lot you ignorant simpleton.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Tue May 16, 2006 11:16 pm

mvscal wrote:
SunCoastSooner wrote:The party was the German people weren't and they at the very least were complacent in the event.
National Socialism was not a Christian movement. Their actions were not undertaken in the name of the Christian God. This is not even subject to debate.

Ein Reich, ein Volk, ein Führer No mention of God.

Keep revising history sdome high school drop out who never took a lick of college history might just believe you.
The fact that you are a fucking dumbshit, does not excuse your ignorance. Rome ruled the Middle East. Rome was a Christian power. That makes the Middle East Christian land. The Arabs came to power there by military conquest. They are not native to region.

You dumbfuck how the hell do you think Rome came in to controll of the middle east... military conquest. Jesus Christ you are one of the most dense mother fuckers I have ever met on the internet.

This is not revisionist history. It's a stone cold fact. Don't like it? Go fuck yourself.

Here are just a handful from the first few pages of Google but I am sure you're going to tell us how they are ALL incorrect, right?
A. They don't support your claims of "millions and millions" killed in the name of God.

B. The Muslims did (and are doing) all of the above and worse on three continents.

Cue Pee Wee- "I know you are but what am I." It was alright for Rome to do it because they were Christians? That's rich.

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Wed May 17, 2006 12:19 am

Sunny Wrote:
Nazi's were Christians

What a pathetic Godless tool you are.
I suppose you could always pray to your books to save you if your murdering muslim freaks of choice were to ever get control of this earth, cuz you would be nothing more then hatchet practice to them.

At least you are good for a laugh.

Nazi's were Christians.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Wed May 17, 2006 12:28 am

tough love wrote:
Sunny Wrote:
Nazi's were Christians
What a pathetic Godless tool you are.
I suppose you could always pray to your books to save you if your murdering muslim freaks of choice were to ever get control of this earth, cuz you would be nothing more then hatchet practice to them.

At least you are good for a laugh.

Nazi's were Christians.

The heirarchy was occultist the majority of their party were Christians, the majority of Germans were Christians. The people who ran the camps and killed millions of people were christians. The fact that they were Christian tools doesn't change the fact that they were Christians.

Edit: Godless? Far from it. I just don't subscribe to your beliefs but that doesn't make me Godless it just means I am not a Christian. If your actions and the way you treat people with different ideas and opinions of your own is any indication of the way the majority of Christians act and fell (which it has been experience that it is) I am proud not to be the same sort of hypocrite as yourself.

M2 · Post by M2 » Wed May 17, 2006 12:32 am

SunCoastSooner wrote:
tough love wrote:
Sunny Wrote:
Nazi's were Christians
What a pathetic Godless tool you are.
I suppose you could always pray to your books to save you if your murdering muslim freaks of choice were to ever get control of this earth, cuz you would be nothing more then hatchet practice to them.

At least you are good for a laugh.

Nazi's were Christians.
The heirarchy was occultist the majority of their party were Christians, the majority of Germans were Christians. The people who ran the camps and killed millions of people were christians. The fact that they were Christian tools doesn't change the fact that they were Christians.

I think you're missing the point... but

carry on

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Wed May 17, 2006 1:11 am

^^
And The Da Vinci Code is the truth.

I seriously doubt you even know what a Christian is.

Jesus was the Muslims John the baptist, Nazi's are Christians, what else you got decaying in that grey mess of yours.

Laughter anticipates your responce.

M2 · Post by M2 » Wed May 17, 2006 2:10 am

tough love wrote:^^
And The Da Vinci Code is the truth.

I seriously doubt you even know what a Christian is.

Jesus was the Muslims John the baptist, Nazi's are Christians, what else you got decaying in that grey mess of yours.

Laughter anticipates your responce.

What are you babbling about?

Looks like nothing ever changes... the prerequisite for religious fanatic, is still a complete lack of an ability to join reality.

fix · Post by **fix** » Wed May 17, 2006 4:44 am

m2 wrote:
tough love wrote:^^
And The Da Vinci Code is the truth.

I seriously doubt you even know what a Christian is.

Jesus was the Muslims John the baptist, Nazi's are Christians, what else you got decaying in that grey mess of yours.

Laughter anticipates your responce.
What are you babbling about?

Looks like nothing ever changes... the prerequisite for religious fanatic, is still a complete lack of an ability to join reality.

That's normal for Tina m2.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Wed May 17, 2006 11:21 am

tough love wrote:^^
And The Da Vinci Code is the truth.

I seriously doubt you even know what a Christian is.

Jesus was the Muslims John the baptist, Nazi's are Christians, what else you got decaying in that grey mess of yours.

Laughter anticipates your responce.

Where did I say the Da Vinci Code is the truth? Link?

Jesus is recognized in the same role by Muslims as John the Baptist is by Christians. If you have trouble dealing with that...not my damn problem. I didn't create the religion, I don't practice the religion, I don't have to answer for their religious beliefs. The fact that you feel the need to try and make me answer to someone elses beliefs because you don't what is said and simply have no clue wtf their religion believes, you just know you don't like it; is rather sad.

The fact that some people on get all pissy because I discuss the Islamic religion without preconceived notions as to their theological beliefs suddenly makes me a supporter of their people's BS, despite having being noted more times than just about anyone else on this board as to saying shoot them all, only indicates what I have always known about what the majority of people who join a forum like this, you're closed minded and only interested in belittling those who don't have the same faith as your own.

You don't like what the believe then too damn bad. Dislike it all you want TL but it doesn't change what they believe.

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Wed May 17, 2006 12:23 pm

Where did I say the Da Vinci Code is the truth? Link?

You didn't, I was just associating that absurd fantasy with your Nazi's are Christains one.

I wasn't trying to force anything upon you, and if that is the way you misinterpreted my personal disbelief in what those murdering retard muslims think, tough.
My guess is that is not the only thing you misinterpret.

Seriously; I will continue to voice my opinion the way I do, you seem to be the one having the problem dealing with anyone who doesn't agree with your version of 'the what is'
In truth I swear I really don't care what you think, and why you would attempt to stress so much importance on my caring about over-educated idiots just gets me to laugh all the more.

If you have trouble dealing with that...not my damn problem.

Thank for being here, keep up the good work :wink:

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Wed May 17, 2006 2:23 pm

tough love wrote:
Where did I say the Da Vinci Code is the truth? Link?
You didn't, I was just associating that absurd fantasy with your Nazi's are Christains one.

I wasn't trying to force anything upon you, and if that is the way you misinterpreted my personal disbelief in what those murdering retard muslims think, tough.
My guess is that is not the only thing you misinterpret.

Seriously; I will continue to voice my opinion the way I do, you seem to be the one having the problem dealing with anyone who doesn't agree with your version of 'the what is'
In truth I swear I really don't care what you think, and why you would attempt to stress so much importance on my caring about over-educated idiots just gets me to laugh all the more.

If you have trouble dealing with that...not my damn problem.

Thank for being here, keep up the good work :wink:

I'm not the one attacking someone for stating the facts about a religions beliefs. That is you. I stated what Muslims believe about Jesus. For such a supposedly forgiving and open religion christians are about the most confrontational and argumentative group in the world short of Muslims. And you people wonder why every non christian in our society doesn't want to give you any lee way. It is because you always attack those who do not hold the same beliefs as you. So your not sending your children to blow the rest of us up like Mussies congrats.

You're just as narrow minded and unaccepting as they are.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Wed May 17, 2006 4:05 pm

Deciding which was more barbarous over the years - Christianity or Islam - is tantamount to splitting hairs. There are so many atrocities to choose from on both accounts.

If you are relying on historical precedent to enhance your pride in your reputed beliefs, then you're in trouble, regardless of what flag's sewn onto your sleeve.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Wed May 17, 2006 5:29 pm

PSUFAN wrote:Deciding which was more barbarous over the years - Christianity or Islam - is tantamount to splitting hairs. There are so many atrocities to choose from on both accounts.

If you are relying on historical precedent to enhance your pride in your reputed beliefs, then you're in trouble, regardless of what flag's sewn onto your sleeve.

^^^^ Gets it.

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan · Wed May 17, 2006 10:15 pm

mvscal wrote:
SunCoastSooner wrote:The heirarchy was occultist the majority of their party were Christians, the majority of Germans were Christians. The people who ran the camps and killed millions of people were christians. The fact that they were Christian tools doesn't change the fact that they were Christians.
That fact is totally irrelevant, you fucking moron.

Their actions were not motivated by religion. Those people weren't gassed in the name of God. What part of that are you struggling to comprehend?

http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan · Wed May 17, 2006 10:52 pm

mvscal wrote:Evidently you're just as stupid as the German lemmings who followed him off a cliff.

Aren't you an atheist? Why are you so determinied to disassociate National Socialism and Christianity? Is your hatred of Muslims so intense that you'll stand up for an equally loony and murderous religion just to make Islam look worse in comparison?

Or is it the Nazis you're defending?

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Wed May 17, 2006 11:22 pm

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote:
mvscal wrote:Evidently you're just as stupid as the German lemmings who followed him off a cliff.
Aren't you an atheist? Why are you so determinied to disassociate National Socialism and Christianity? Is your hatred of Muslims so intense that you'll stand up for an equally loony and murderous religion just to make Islam look worse in comparison?

Or is it the Nazis you're defending?

Based on previous comments about every race and creed other than his own I would be inclined to believe it was the later and not the former.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Wed May 17, 2006 11:25 pm

PSUFAN wrote:Deciding which was more barbarous over the years - Christianity or Islam - is tantamount to splitting hairs. There are so many atrocities to choose from on both accounts.

If you are relying on historical precedent to enhance your pride in your reputed beliefs, then you're in trouble, regardless of what flag's sewn onto your sleeve.

The differance, of course, is that so called 'christian' atrocieties had nothing to do with Christianity, while Muslim ones were a logical application of Islam. But of course both pale before the record of the atheists.

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan · Wed May 17, 2006 11:28 pm

Diogenes wrote: But of course both pale before the record of the atheists.

Link?

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Wed May 17, 2006 11:29 pm

Diogenes wrote:
PSUFAN wrote:Deciding which was more barbarous over the years - Christianity or Islam - is tantamount to splitting hairs. There are so many atrocities to choose from on both accounts.

If you are relying on historical precedent to enhance your pride in your reputed beliefs, then you're in trouble, regardless of what flag's sewn onto your sleeve.
The differance, of course, is that so called 'christian' atrocieties had nothing to do with Christianity, while Muslim ones were a logical application of Islam. But of course both pale before the record of the atheists.

Are you trying to state that the Spanish Inquisition was anything other than theological? Peter the Hermit wasn't attempting to lead a theological crusade against the Jews? I could go on but come on Dio. Mvscal and TL I can see actualy trying to claim that shit but you I hold to a higher standard of intelectual honesty. It would be best if just not make excuses for them and state your case for Christianity evolving into a more peaceful religion from whence it originated and was then warped from and returned to.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Wed May 17, 2006 11:30 pm

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote:
Diogenes wrote: But of course both pale before the record of the atheists.
Link?

I'd like toi see that as well. I can't think of many atheist massacres outside of the strict application of communism.

Dr_Phibes · Post by **Dr_Phibes** » Wed May 17, 2006 11:55 pm

We're #1!

We're #1!

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan · Wed May 17, 2006 11:59 pm

mvscal wrote:
MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote:Aren't you an atheist? Why are you so determinied to disassociate National Socialism and Christianity?
Because the truth of the matter is that there was no association. Hitler's philosophy was very clearly articulated in Mein Kampf and Christianity didn't have shit to do with it.

Of course he was intelligent enough to make use of boilerplate rhetoric to manipulate people, but there was no place in the Thousand Year Reich for Christianity.

"The best characterization is provided by the product of this religious education, the Jew himself. His life is only of this world, and his spirit is inwardly as alien to true Christianity as his nature two thousand years previous was to the great founder of the new doctrine. Of course, the latter made no secret of his attitude toward the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took the whip to drive from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, who then as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for his business existence. In return, Christ was nailed to the cross, while our present-day party Christians debase themselves to begging for Jewish votes at elections and later try to arrange political swindles with atheistic Jewish parties-- and this against their own nation."

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

There's a shitload more quotes from Mein Kampf at the website I posted earlier. Hitler made reference to God & Christianity numerous times in Mein Kampf. He was born & raised a Catholic. Nobody's trying to argue that he was an evalgelical trying to establish a Christian theocracy, but he clearly believed his methods were in keeping with Christian ideology.

If dismissing that as "boilerplate rhetoric" helps you sleep at night, then go with it, I guess. But the evidence is pretty clear that your hero was a Christian.

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