Iran/Hamas attacks Israel

[Kierland]

Yeah you two aren’t racists.

[HighPlainsGrifter]

Time for the United States to take the gloves off.

And accomplish what, exactly?

There needs to be a price paid when you kill Americans and take them hostage abroad.

And anyone with a brain knows who needs to pay the price.

I don't disagree. But what do you intend to accomplish? You want to kill some people and call it a day? You want to occupy some territory and hold it? You want to destroy an economy and keep them in mud huts for a few generations? I'm not saying we shouldn't do any of those things or a combination of those things. What I'm advocating for is a definition of Victory. What's the end goal? Define the purpose for unleashing the full might of the US rage monster and I'll listen to your argument.

Thanks for taking the time to respond, by the way. I know we're all busy and this is a complicated situation. I'm not trying to set you up or anything. I honestly want to know what you see as a viable end goal. I'll give my thoughts in response if you want them.

[Screw_Michigan]

Mia Khalifa

[The Seer]

You ignoring the truth is the only white flag I see. You go ahead and call me the Nazi all you want. It’s not true so I don’t care. Go ahead and pick the crips over the bloods or Gotti over Castellano, it makes me no never mind. Just don’t pull a MAGA and lie lie lie about everything that’s happening.

Translation:

I got nuthin.

[The Seer]

I was once like you. Changing my perspective on the Israeli government was not easy and I was [metaphorically] kicking and screaming the whole time. The ugly truth is far more nuanced than your post indicates. The Israeli people are generally good, but the Israeli government does not value human life. Not the way you think it does. Israeli government values its existence and it will cut unborn children from pregnant bellies, strap bombs to the screaming infant, and toss them over the wall if that's what it takes to defend the country. Period. Full stop. You gotta understand this is their only homeland. If they lose this one, they won't get another. There is NOTHING they won't do to keep their country.

Palestine is not innocent, don't assume that's my argument. No one is innocent in this fight. Palestine embodies is a dark, murderous belief system and they are evil wrapped in epidermis, but don't for a second think the Israeli military is solely a defensive force. This isn't a movie where the good guys wear white hats and the bad guys wear black hats. Everyone has blood and entrails on their hands for justifiable reasons. It's ugly, and it's complicated, and it's not our fucking fight. Do NOT support this, goddammit.

Sounds like you've been attending extension courses at your local indoctrination center/college. The history of Israel since 1948 and it's battles for survival don't require exhaustive research.

(Unless of course, your point is that they will do what's necessary to survive). If so, find me any lifeform on the planet that won't.

[FiatLux]

Take out the Iranian clerics and bomb the shit out of their oil refineries (how they make money) as well as their nuclear bomb making facilities.

One cleric for every killed American and one cleric for every American hostage taken.

If we take out more... oh, well.


We'd be doing a majority of the Persian people a favor as well.

It's a win, win for all parties involved.

[FiatLux]

The history of Israel since 1948 and it's battles for survival don't require exhaustive research.

1948 ...The first plan to split the territories and the Arab side rejected it. Arab states and the Palestinians attack Israeli forces and the Palestinians end up losing more land.

They tried to take over all the land and lost. And they have been the aggressor ever since.


It's not that complicated if you have a brain.

[Kierland]

You ignoring the truth is the only white flag I see. You go ahead and call me the Nazi all you want. It’s not true so I don’t care. Go ahead and pick the crips over the bloods or Gotti over Castellano, it makes me no never mind. Just don’t pull a MAGA and lie lie lie about everything that’s happening.

Translation:

I got nuthin.

Nice white flag

[Kierland]

The history of Israel since 1948 and it's battles for survival don't require exhaustive research.

1948 ...The first plan to split the territories and the Arab side rejected it. Arab states and the Palestinians attack Israeli forces and the Palestinians end up losing more land.

They tried to take over all the land and lost. And they have been the aggressor ever since.


It's not that complicated if you have a brain.

Yes Middle East Peace and Politics is super east to explain and fix. You go girl!

[Wolfman]

What is scary is with the "open border" there are likely a lot of terrorists in the USA--waiting armed where they are for marching orders to attack and kill as many of us as they can, probably in large gatherings.
God help us.

[Sudden Sam]

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... re/675596/

Long read. Firsthand account from Nahal Oz.

Dumbasses…just skip it.

[The Seer]

Students?

https://www.prageru.com/video/why-isnt- ... t-conflict

[Kierland]

I always goto prageru when I’m looking for facts and stuff.

[Kierland]

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... re/675596/

Long read. Firsthand account from Nahal Oz.

Dumbasses…just skip it.

Yes is a hellhole. Thanks for the update. I was thinking of heading there on vaca but now I think I’ll skip it.

[mvscal]

What are the odds on WWIII breaking out?

Higher with a senile, braindamaged pedophile in the White House.

[Kierland]

That’s a lot of projection in one sentence. And don’t keep using those same words time after time after time or HighPantyBunch will start a thread about you.

[Diego in Seattle]

What are the odds on WWIII breaking out?

Higher with a senile, braindamaged pedophile in the White House.

It's even higher w/o an ambassador to Israel.

It's even higher w/o a Navy chief.

It's even higher w/o an Air Force chief.

You wouldn't happen to know the reason for those vacancies, would you?

[Sudden Sam]

What are the odds on WWIII breaking out?

Higher with a senile, braindamaged pedophile in the White House.

Sadly, that senile brain-damaged clown is the perfect metaphor for what America is right now.

[mvscal]

What are the odds on WWIII breaking out?

Higher with a senile, braindamaged pedophile in the White House.

It's even higher w/o an ambassador to Israel.

It's even higher w/o a Navy chief.

It's even higher w/o an Air Force chief.

You wouldn't happen to know the reason for those vacancies, would you?

Those positions are currently staffed on an interim basis. You do understand that, yes?

[Screw_Michigan]

Those positions are currently staffed on an interim basis. You do understand that, yes?

You know as well as anyone else that the interim tag doesn't carry as much weight as Senate confirmed. No underling is going to go out on a limb for the interim chief of staff.

[mvscal]

Those positions are currently staffed on an interim basis. You do understand that, yes?

You know as well as anyone else that the interim tag doesn't carry as much weight as Senate confirmed. No underling is going to go out on a limb for the interim chief of staff.

Weight? Quantify 'weight.' We have an ambassador to Israel. I would further estimate that that influence also includes about two thirds of both houses of Congress, 90% of the media and 99% of Hollywood. I'm quite confident that Israel's interests are adequately represented to the powers that be in charge of this country. Would you disagree?

Military promotions are entirely irrelevant. The acting officer will give orders and those orders will be obeyed...or else. That is the way. We aren't experiencing any shortage of generals. We have almost three times more of them now than in WW2 when we had 11 million men in the armed forces.

I'm sure it's a tremendous personal tragedy that some ticket punching mediocrity might experience brief turbulence on his glide path into a lucrative career lobbying for the defense industry.

Wipe your fucking chin, Screwy. Jesus Christ.

[Kierland]

Is there any direction you won’t contort yourself to suck orange cock?

[mvscal]

Israeli government values its existence and it will cut unborn children from pregnant bellies, strap bombs to the screaming infant, and toss them over the wall if that's what it takes to defend the country. Period. Full stop. You gotta understand this is their only homeland. If they lose this one, they won't get another. There is NOTHING they won't do to keep their country.

Is that not the bottom line responsibility of every government on earth? How is Israel unique in that respect?

[Screw_Michigan]

Higher with a senile, braindamaged pedophile in the White House.

You should be fukkin grateful that the president is someone experienced and calm, not the erratic sociopath who said he fell in love with Kim Jong Un and won't read a briefing book.

[mvscal]

Higher with a senile, braindamaged pedophile in the White House.

You should be fukkin grateful that the president is someone experienced and calm, not the erratic sociopath who said he fell in love with Kim Jong Un and won't read a briefing book.

Of course!! That explains why Iran and Hamas began planning this operation right when Gropin' Joetato was wheel-barreled into office...oh, wait, I guess it really doesn't. Please if you might direct my attention to one of these doubtless many oases of calm in the world engineered by Pedo Joe, I would appreciate it.

Thank you in advance.

[HighPlainsGrifter]

Israeli government values its existence and it will cut unborn children from pregnant bellies, strap bombs to the screaming infant, and toss them over the wall if that's what it takes to defend the country. Period. Full stop. You gotta understand this is their only homeland. If they lose this one, they won't get another. There is NOTHING they won't do to keep their country.

Is that not the bottom line responsibility of every government on earth? How is Israel unique in that respect?

Didn't say it was unique. Basically said the opposite. I was pointing out to Fiat the reality of the situation. He wants to believe in a pollyanna world where Israel is basically a humanitarian organization that was attacked without provocation. That is not true. Israel has been standing on Palestine's neck for a looong time. Palestine in its arrogance refuses to make a peace deal and continues their jihad even though their losing streak is longer than Terpy's dick.

This is not a case of good guys against bad guys. Fuck, it's not even good guys vs good guys or bad vs bad. It's self-interests vs self-interests. My argument is for allowing those interests to play out organically while the US watches from a safe distance.

[FiatLux]

My argument is for allowing those interests to play out organically while the US watches from a safe distance.

That ship has sailed...


https://www.axios.com/2023/10/08/hamas- ... tages-gaza

[Kierland]

John Steward’s take on Hamas v Israel… oh and Ukraine.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinter ... years_ago/

Yes that’s right, Nine years ago.

Same as it ever was.

[FiatLux]

‘At least 40 babies killed’: Foreign reporters taken to massacre site in Kfar Aza

they had found the bodies of some 40 babies, some of whom had been beheaded.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-ta ... -kfar-aza/



-It was just a picnic

-What about

-Both sides are bad


Sin,

little tiny midget Nazi

[Kierland]

You have been typing the same thing over and over. Better watch out or HighPantyBunch might start a thread about you.

[HighPlainsGrifter]

That's not a take.

[Kierland]

How about if I started a thread about it?
Btw- Love how you bitch about repetition then recycle my takes. It’s the same thing the last .pedo refugee did. It’s like you people share one brain cell.

[HighPlainsGrifter]

Nice white flag

[Kierland]

Btw- Love how you bitch about repetition then recycle my takes. It’s the same thing the last .pedo refugee did. It’s like you people share one brain cell.

[FiatLux]

Nice white flag

Well played.

[FiatLux]

22 and counting.

The body bags are piling up.


It's time.

[Kierland]

Nice white flag

Well played.

Yes, out of place crap is all the rage. Too bad you used your allotment of “well played” if you ever use it again HighPantyBunch will start a thread about you.

[Kierland]

22 and counting.

The body bags are piling up.


It's time.

Do tell.

[88BuckeyeGrad]

Never heard of Mia Khalifa before. She looks like Jerry Lewis with bolted on tits.

[HighPlainsGrifter]

If memory serves (I'm not looking it up because where's the fun in that?) Mia Khalifa was/is the most viewed pron star in the Middle East. She's not good looking, imo, and she's lousy at pron, but she identifies as a Muzzie so all the 3.65" muzzie dicks get hard at the mention of her name.