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LTS TRN 2 wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:03 pm Who is prepared to declare that a fetus at six months--or even less--isn't a viable human being?
Medical doctors, more specifically OB-GYN doctors.
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Cougs, you do realize that the Christian extremists won't allow for any exceptions to be made, don't you?
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You do realize that Screwy and Kierland believe there are zero exceptions to intervening in a woman’s choice.

Extremism goes both ways, Diego. Hence, why we are here.


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Go Coogs' wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:57 pm What are you? Nietzsche?
Crazy motherfucker.


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Diego in Seattle wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:46 pm Medical doctors, more specifically OB-GYN doctors.
This is correct. Know who is not? Rumps, that's who.
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I suppose my idea that I shared on another board a few years ago of
having an abortion clinic in every strip mall in America would
be frowned upon by some here.

Subway, Ace Hardware, barber shop, abortion clinic, H & R Block, tanning salon, Dollar Store. AMERICA!!!

If you are against abortion, don't have one, and mind your own fucking business.
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MS wrote:Fuck off you pious POS. It’s her body you fucking tyrant.
The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law that recognizes
an embryo or fetus in utero as a legal victim
, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any
of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species
Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb
.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unborn_Vi ... olence_Act




It is not only her body.
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Go Coogs' wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:50 pm You do realize that Screwy and Kierland believe there are zero exceptions to intervening in a woman’s choice.

Extremism goes both ways, Diego. Hence, why we are here.


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There is nothing extreme about saying people should have bodily autonomy you tightassed zealot.
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Softball Bat wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:09 am
MS wrote:Fuck off you pious POS. It’s her body you fucking tyrant.
The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law that recognizes
an embryo or fetus in utero as a legal victim
, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any
of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species
Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb
.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unborn_Vi ... olence_Act




It is not only her body.
And that law says people can’t do shit to her body without consequences, thanks for making my point.
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Go Coogs' wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:05 pm Do you even know what morality is, jackass? What makes my morality shitty if I take issue with someone having five abortions and didn’t take proper action after 2? You say it’s her body, her choice. But there are other people involved in that situation.


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Kierland wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:18 am
poptart wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:09 am
MS wrote:Fuck off you pious POS. It’s her body you fucking tyrant.
The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law that recognizes
an embryo or fetus in utero as a legal victim
, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any
of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species
Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb
.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unborn_Vi ... olence_Act




It is not only her body.
And that law says people can’t do shit to her body without consequences, thanks for making my point.
The law says there are two victims.

Two human members.


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Softball Bat wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:27 amthere are two victims.

Two human members.


You know this.
Ironic you’re addressing 1/2 a person, no wonder he can’t comprehend.
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The law says corporations are people so take your idiocy and shove it up your ass.
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38 states recognize fetal homicide -- and about 2/3 of these apply the principle throughout the period of prenatal development.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foeticide





The mother is not just making a "my body" choice, MS -- and you know this.
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Softball Bat wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:05 am 38 states recognize fetal homicide -- and about 2/3 of these apply the principle throughout the period of prenatal development.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foeticide





The mother is not just making a "my body" choice, MS -- and you know this.
38 states, representing probably 20% of the US population.
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Mikey wrote:38 states, representing probably 20% of the US population.
Are you hittin' the bong tonight?
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Softball Bat wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:20 am Are you hittin' the bong tonight?
I assume you’re responding to my post. So prove that I’m wrong. It should be pretty easy with Google.
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Currently, at least 38 states have fetal homicide laws: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia and Wisconsin.

https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/fe ... -laws.aspx
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Roach wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:10 pm And you LTS are the one who thinks He knows best for women and their bodies.
I was referring quite specifically to the unborn child within the woman. And again I ask--where is any concern for that living human being, a complete and unique individual? Who will defend the living yet unborn?

And why are you insisting they NOT be protected?

What are you? :wink:
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LTS TRN 2 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:16 am
Roach wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:10 pm And you LTS are the one who thinks He knows best for women and their bodies.
I was referring quite specifically to the unborn child within the woman.
So should people who eat eggs be prosecuted for animal abuse?
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Softball Bat wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:05 am 38 states recognize fetal homicide -- and about 2/3 of these apply the principle throughout the period of prenatal development.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foeticide





The mother is not just making a "my body" choice, MS -- and you know this.
So why aren't laws reflecting that by requiring sperm donors to begin child support payments at the same stage that abortions are banned?
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Softball Bat wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:45 am Currently, at least 38 states have fetal homicide laws: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia and Wisconsin.

https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/fe ... -laws.aspx
Yes, like Mikey said, those states represent 20% of the nation's population.

Land =/= population
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Some people are really trippin' out in this thread.
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Says the guy who bases his whole life on a man in a cloud. You been tripping your whole life ya freak.
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LTS TRN 2 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:16 am
Roach wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 11:10 pm And you LTS are the one who thinks He knows best for women and their bodies.
I was referring quite specifically to the unborn child within the woman. And again I ask--where is any concern for that living human being, a complete and unique individual? Who will defend the living yet unborn?

And why are you insisting they NOT be protected?

What are you? :wink:
That is all one big lie, scientifically as well as a actually. You don’t give a shit about zygotes and fetuses any more than you do about born kids. You are just a misogynistic control freak Karen.
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Softball Bat wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:05 am 38 states recognize fetal homicide -- and about 2/3 of these apply the principle throughout the period of prenatal development.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foeticide





The mother is not just making a "my body" choice, MS -- and you know this.
I know you are stupid but what part of “I don’t give a fuck if you can find two dumb laws” don’t you get? You are saying if some dude fucks with a preggers and kills the fetus that’s bad so that means it’s ok for YOU to fuck with her too. That is beyond patriarchal BS and toxic misogyny and squarely in lala land. You have serious personal issues I get that, keep them to yourself.
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Softball Bat wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:45 am Currently, at least 38 states have fetal homicide laws: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia and Wisconsin.

https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/fe ... -laws.aspx
Not very good at math, are you. Big surprise.

You do realize that “fetal homicide” and abortion are not the same thing. Don’t you? Otherwise California would not be on your list.
No…I guess I can’t make that assumption either. Again, not too surprised.

There be dragons…
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Mikey wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:30 pm
poptart wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:45 am Currently, at least 38 states have fetal homicide laws: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia and Wisconsin.

https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/fe ... -laws.aspx
Not very good at math, are you. Big surprise.

You do realize that “fetal homicide” and abortion are not the same thing. Don’t you? Otherwise California would not be on your list.
No…I guess I can’t make that assumption either. Again, not too surprised.

There be dragons…
The 38 states listed make up, in your estimation, about what percentage of the U.S. population?
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MS wrote:I know you are stupid but what part of “I don’t give a fuck if you can find two dumb laws” don’t you get? You are saying if some dude fucks with a preggers and kills the fetus that’s bad so that means it’s ok for YOU to fuck with her too. That is beyond patriarchal BS and toxic misogyny and squarely in lala land. You have serious personal issues I get that, keep them to yourself.
You are twisting yourself into a pretzel.

You said, "Fuck off you pious POS. It’s her body you fucking tyrant."

I simply noted that 38 states have fetal homicide laws, and so it is painfully (for you) obvious that snuffing out a life in the womb is not a simple matter of -----> "her body."

The "child in utero" is a "legal victim" in fetal homicide, and is, by law considered to be "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development in the womb."

There are two bodies.

We all know this, anyway.
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Diego in Seattle wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:56 am
So should people who eat eggs be prosecuted for animal abuse?
Have you ever met someone who ate a fertilized egg? You might be the biggest moron on this board.
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Mikey wrote:You do realize that “fetal homicide” and abortion are not the same thing. Don’t you?
I realize that they are most definitely the very same thing to the life in the womb.
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L45B wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:09 pm
Diego in Seattle wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:56 am
So should people who eat eggs be prosecuted for animal abuse?
Have you ever met someone who ate a fertilized egg? You might be the biggest moron on this board.

Some people are really trippin' out in this thread.

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Softball Bat wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:59 pm
MS wrote:I know you are stupid but what part of “I don’t give a fuck if you can find two dumb laws” don’t you get? You are saying if some dude fucks with a preggers and kills the fetus that’s bad so that means it’s ok for YOU to fuck with her too. That is beyond patriarchal BS and toxic misogyny and squarely in lala land. You have serious personal issues I get that, keep them to yourself.
You are twisting yourself into a pretzel.

You said, "Fuck off you pious POS. It’s her body you fucking tyrant."

I simply noted that 38 states have fetal homicide laws, and so it is painfully (for you) obvious that snuffing out a life in the womb is not a simple matter of -----> "her body."

The "child in utero" is a "legal victim" in fetal homicide, and is, by law considered to be "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development in the womb."

There are two bodies.

We all know this, anyway.
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Good luck on that. The little worm is as tireless and dedicated as mold itself in homeless shelter toilet.
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I see a couple of people who apparently have had their feelings hurt. :cry:
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The pro-choice folks aren't merely infantile and annoying, they're deranged and genuinely aberrated.


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Papa Willie wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:35 pm
LTS TRN 2 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:12 pm The pro-choice folks aren't merely infantile and annoying, they're deranged and genuinely aberrated.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REgFU7r ... e=emb_logo
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Nina Turner's a piece of work. Here's a classic "1619 Project" catechism rant as she goes after the (hottie) white gal who actually makes sense and speaks in a civil and rational manner. Check the seething factor--she's ready to throw hands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8_eI-stGQc

And with the calamitous midterms looming for the DNC as it circles the drain, radicals like Turner are eager to pounce with a full-blown redux of the Summer of 2020--this time bigger. :!:
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