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I get it. Nobody reads the MLB forum. But you all have to see this.


Rundown between home an first base??? WTF??? :shock:

Runner scores from second base??? Double WTF??? :shock: :shock:

Batter ends up at second base after about four or five wild throws.

Talk about a brain fart by the first baseman.

On top of that, go to about 2:04. The TV guy was so befuddled by what was happening that he said the batter "struck out" and headed to first base. It looked a lot to me like he hit a grounder to third. :meds: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Video isn’t loading well here in mehico.

But a rundown between home and first? Did the fielder forget it is always a force out at 1st?

Tee-ball kids know this. Am I missing something?
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LS wrote:Did the fielder forget it is always a force out at 1st?
Yeah, the first baseman butchered that play.
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This very well be the first home/first pickle in history. Definitely the first I’ve ever seen.

Probably the last.

I’ve never played organized baseball. Is this even a drill they teach?

It is now.

Next time take the force and if anything else is going on around the bases, you might take notice. You’ve got all the time in the world to finish it off with the force, which remains a force, regardless.

This is just another example of why baseball is an awesome game to watch. Too bad it’s participation is the hyper-woke non-sense has disinterested in it.


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smackaholic wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 8:29 am This is just another example of why baseball is an awesome game to watch.
Just when you think you've seen it all :grin:
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smackaholic wrote:This is just another example of why baseball is an awesome game to watch.
25 years ago.

MLB is completely unwatchable now.
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Softball Bat wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 11:50 am MLB is completely unwatchable now.
I enjoy watching baseball. I record the games I want to watch, and then watch the recordings. I am able to fast-forward through all the ads, mound visits, and replay reviews. That helps.
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Baseball is the most watchable game at this point.
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Sadly, Mikey, you may be right.

Football is a joke. Basketball is more or less a 3 point contest, or so I’ve heard. Haven’t watched enough to confirm this.

There’s always hockey I guess, but hockey is much better live than on TV.


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Softball Bat wrote:
smackaholic wrote:This is just another example of why baseball is an awesome game to watch.
25 years ago.

MLB is completely unwatchable now.
I should have said was an awesome game to watch.


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poptart wrote:Baseball has been ruined.
It is sad, because growing up, baseball might have been my favorite sport.
It was right on par with the NFL

"Small ball," and all the nuance that goes with it, has been eliminated from the game.

The superimposed strike zone (and speed of pitch) graphic IS A TOTAL ABORTION.
UNWATCHABLE.
Makes me ill.


The baseball lords have felt a strong need to get with the ADHD times, and they have destroyed what has always made baseball different and great.
Short-sighted, money-grubbing idiocy.

They should have embraced the fact that their sport is different.


Times change, and the time will come again when people read books, actually sit and engage in conversations with their fellow man, and enjoy the mellow flow of the national pastime marathon.

Wait, baseball is -----> gone!



I'm just too old.
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MLB is horsehit.
The NBA is ridiculous.
The NFL is barely watchable.
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You’re pretty adept at making your point with blanket “observations” that, while may have some validity in a general sense, aren’t necessarily true if you actually take the time to watch.
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The Padres have played four consecutive extra inning games.

On Friday they scored 7 runs on 6 hits in the 11th inning.

The return of “small ball”:

RALEY PITCHING FOR HOU
SD
HOU
Caratini singled to left center, Profar to third.
3
3
Kim singled to right, Profar scored, Caratini to third.
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3
Pham singled to right, Caratini scored, Kim to second.
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3
BIELAK PITCHING FOR HOU
SD
HOU
Machado grounded into fielder's choice to shortstop, Pham out at second, Kim to third.
5
3
Cronenworth reached on infield single to first, Kim scored, Machado to third.
6
3
Tatis Jr. hit sacrifice fly to right, Machado scored.
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Mateo safe at first on throwing error by second baseman Altuve, Cronenworth to second.
7
3
Myers doubled to left, Cronenworth scored, Mateo to third.
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Profar singled to shallow center, Mateo scored and Myers scored.
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Caratini grounded out to pitcher.
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Tatis Jr is tied for the NL lead in HRs. He also leads the league in stolen bases.
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Of the major sports hockey is still by far the best to watch.

Followed by football, then basketball with MLB last.
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Mikey, I appreciate you taking the time to put up that "small ball" post.
And noting that Tatis is tied for the NL lead in both HRs and SBs.

W. Merrifield currently leads MLB with 15 stolen bases.
He is on pace for 48 stolen bases this season.

Go back a generation (from 1990 to 1995) and we see that the MLB leader was in the neighborhood of 65 stolen bases a year.
And if we go back another 10 years-or-so we see the MLB leader stealing even a lot more than that.
R. Henderson stole more than 80 bases in a season six times.
He went over 100 three times.


But the biggest turn off for me with MLB is that ridiculous superimposed strike zone they put up their for the TV viewer to see.

Unwatchable and absolutely disgusting.
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Left Seater wrote:Of the major sports hockey is still by far the best to watch.

Followed by football, then basketball with MLB last.
Hockey just loses too much on the little screen. Still entertaining, but better by far, live.

As fukked up as it is, I’d still say baseball is the most watchable on the tube.

The NFL used to be great to watch, but the ridiculous contact rules are atrocious. Every open field tackle is now a potential personal foul. All a clever runner has to do is shift position a little so the tackler makes contact with his helmet before his shoulder. It is absolutely ridiculous. And I am certain ball runners are now be trained to do exactly this. Why bust your ass avoiding trackers when you can just lean into them a bit for 15 yards?


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Softball Bat wrote:Mikey, I appreciate you taking the time to put up that "small ball" post.
And noting that Tatis is tied for the NL lead in both HRs and SBs.

W. Merrifield currently leads MLB with 15 stolen bases.
He is on pace for 48 stolen bases this season.

Go back a generation (from 1990 to 1995) and we see that the MLB leader was in the neighborhood of 65 stolen bases a year.
And if we go back another 10 years-or-so we see the MLB leader stealing even a lot more than that.
R. Henderson stole more than 80 bases in a season six times.
He went over 100 three times.


But the biggest turn off for me with MLB is that ridiculous superimposed strike zone they put up their for the TV viewer to see.

Unwatchable and absolutely disgusting.
I understand the annoyance with all the tech gimmicky BS, but it can be ignored and it does t change how the game is played.

What bothers me more is today’s pitcher management. He isn’t a manager anymore. He’s a fukking accountant.

NFL contact rules are different. Why not just outlaw tackling? Just hand out the flags now. It would be better than what we have.


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You have a valid point, though Henderson was truly exceptional (and I was a big A’s fan during all of those years). In a discussion of “small ball,” which I believe was coined well after Henderson retired, it would be interesting to compare team stats. I would try that but I’m not in front of my computer. I do note that the Padres have 5 players in the top 11 in NL stolen bases. Even during the heyday of small ball, how many teams were actually doing it?

The players are always changing, mostly becoming better athletes over time, and the game changes with them. Strategies come and go almost like fads. MLB is often tinkering and adjusting to account for these changes. Sometimes for the better and sometimes worse depending on how you perceive things. Remember how exclusive the 30/30 club was before around 1970? You’re probably old enough to remember 1969 season that was so dominated by pitchers like Bib Gibson and Denny McClain. Would you have thought the game was unwatchable back then? Did lowering the mound ruin the game?

Trying to compare today’s game to any earlier time and declaring it unwatchable is akin to MAGA. You wouldn’t really want to go back to the way things were in the 50s would you? It would be impossible anyway.

The game today is different. The players are different. I don’t like a lot of what’s happening today either, and I’m not on board with a lot of the strategy and rule changes that are happening. I’ve never seen so much defensive shifting as this season. That’s because nobody knows how to hit to the opposite field anymore. I do miss Tony Gwynn. But that doesn’t mean I’m gonna stop watching. Change is interesting, if not always good.

Of course it helps to have a good team to follow, which has been sorely lacking here for a long time.
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smackaholic wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 4:16 pm
Softball Bat wrote:Mikey, I appreciate you taking the time to put up that "small ball" post.
And noting that Tatis is tied for the NL lead in both HRs and SBs.

W. Merrifield currently leads MLB with 15 stolen bases.
He is on pace for 48 stolen bases this season.

Go back a generation (from 1990 to 1995) and we see that the MLB leader was in the neighborhood of 65 stolen bases a year.
And if we go back another 10 years-or-so we see the MLB leader stealing even a lot more than that.
R. Henderson stole more than 80 bases in a season six times.
He went over 100 three times.


But the biggest turn off for me with MLB is that ridiculous superimposed strike zone they put up their for the TV viewer to see.

Unwatchable and absolutely disgusting.
I understand the annoyance with all the tech gimmicky BS, but it can be ignored and it does t change how the game is played.

What bothers me more is today’s pitcher management. He isn’t a manager anymore. He’s a fukking accountant.

NFL contact rules are different. Why not just outlaw tackling? Just hand out the flags now. It would be better than what we have.


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Gibson had 13 complete game shutouts in 1969, 28 CGs overall . I doubt there have been 13 complete games in all of baseball so far this season. Just about the only time a pitcher goes past 6 is if he’s working on a no-no and even then it’s not a sure thing.
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Yeah, Gibson’s numbers were ridiculous. Of course the fact that could get away with what might be classified as terrorism today, was a factor.

Batter’s fear of brain damage from Gibby going high and inside was prolly good for at least a half run off his ERA.


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True to a certain degree. But McClain won 31 games that year with a 1.96 era. I don’t recall him having a similar rep.

Remember the knuckball? There are a few HOFers that relied almost exclusively on that pitch. Whatever happened to the knuckleball?
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smackaholic wrote:Hockey just loses too much on the little screen. Still entertaining, but better by far, live.

Definitely true.
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Mikey wrote:True to a certain degree. But McClain won 31 games that year with a 1.96 era. I don’t recall him having a similar rep.

Remember the knuckball? There are a few HOFers that relied almost exclusively on that pitch. Whatever happened to the knuckleball?
Very few left. Wakefield had a pretty good run with the Red Sox.

In the right conditions, cold post season games when the ball moves a lot, he was tough to beat. Too bad Jason Varitek could t catch him.

I remember watching him one night when the backup catcher was out for some reason and poor old Jason had to do it. It was fukkin’ hilarious.

Apparently trying to catch a ball when you have no clue what it’s gonna do is a special skill that varitek didn’t possess.


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smackaholic wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 9:49 pm Basketball is more or less a 3 point contest, or so I’ve heard.
You'd prefer to go back to the days of planting a 7 footer in the paint & just lobbing the ball to him?
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The NBA has so many things wrong with it.

To begin with, traveling is very often not called.
To this viewer, that makes the entire product laffable.

I've thought for over a decade that the NBA ought to enlarge the size of the court.
The players have become too big, too fast, and too athletic for the dimensions of the game.

If you watch video of games from the '80s and early '90s, the physicality compared to today's game is very striking.

It has become too much of a "carnival" game now, and it was too much of a wresting match back then.

A middle ground should be found -- and for goodness sake, CALL TRAVELING, which is sort of -----> fundamental.

Ridiculous shit.
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Softball Bat wrote:The NBA has so many things wrong with it.

To begin with, traveling is very often not called.
To this viewer, that makes the entire product laffable.

I've thought for over a decade that the NBA ought to enlarge the size of the court.
The players have become too big, too fast, and too athletic for the dimensions of the game.

If you watch video of games from the '80s and early '90s, the physicality compared to today's game is very striking.

It has become too much of a "carnival" game now, and it was too much of a wresting match back then.

A middle ground should be found -- and for goodness sake, CALL TRAVELING, which is sort of -----> fundamental.

Ridiculous shit.
This^^^^^.

Even as a kid on the playground, you’d get called for carrying the ball if you did anything like what we see today.

Not sure when it started exactly, but I seem to call seeing Michael get away with a good bit of it in the 80s.


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smackaholic wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 9:49 pm Basketball is more or less a 3 point contest, or so I’ve heard.
You'd prefer to go back to the days of planting a 7 footer in the paint & just lobbing the ball to him?
That doesn’t work if the other side has a 7 footer with defensive skills.

I’d like to go back to watching passing.

Good ball movement is a million times more entertaining to watch than a 3 point contest.


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smackaholic wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:05 pm
Diego in Seattle wrote:
smackaholic wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 9:49 pm Basketball is more or less a 3 point contest, or so I’ve heard.
You'd prefer to go back to the days of planting a 7 footer in the paint & just lobbing the ball to him?
That doesn’t work if the other side has a 7 footer with defensive skills.

I’d like to go back to watching passing.

Good ball movement is a million times more entertaining to watch than a 3 point contest.
Just a side note, not all 3 point shots are just "run and gun."

There's an art to moving the ball around the court and springing a guy for an open 3. The Warriors during their recent heyday with Curry and Thompson were quite adept at this.
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smackaholic wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:05 pm
Diego in Seattle wrote:
smackaholic wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 9:49 pm Basketball is more or less a 3 point contest, or so I’ve heard.
You'd prefer to go back to the days of planting a 7 footer in the paint & just lobbing the ball to him?
That doesn’t work if the other side has a 7 footer with defensive skills.

I’d like to go back to watching passing.

Good ball movement is a million times more entertaining to watch than a 3 point contest.


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poptart wrote:The NBA has so many things wrong with it.

To begin with, traveling is very often not called.
Like this...






I guess in this instance the official thought Leonard's shot had been blocked.
But it wasn't, and it should have been a traveling call.

Traveling is rarely called.

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poptart wrote:The NBA has so many things wrong with it.

To begin with, traveling is very often not called.
To this viewer, that makes the entire product laffable.

for goodness sake, CALL TRAVELING, which is sort of -----> fundamental.
Traveling?

Watch :21 to :26









Wtf?

It is blatant traveling.
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I’m other news: fatman in Bacon spends 17th straight year in his house because he is too fatt to get thru his double doors.
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The Braves are old news. They won the World Series over a month ago. Why are you obsessing, Spray? Get a fucking life.
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