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FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 5:05 pm
by Sudden Sam
Daily Mail reporting that Mary Comans has been removed from her position as CFO for using FEMA funds to house illegals in luxury hotels after the president ordered that practice to end.

Effective immediately, FEMA is terminating the employment of four individuals for circumventing leadership to unilaterally make egregious payments for luxury NYC hotels for migrants. Firings include FEMA’s Chief Financial Officer, two program analysts and a grant specialist.

Cue more crying from those trying to destroy America.

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:02 pm
by Mikey
You seem awfully willing to accept whatever Elon Musk says, without qualification. I've been following this guy for about 15 years and not quite as ready to credit him with divine inspiration. I'm not saying that this is wrong but I'd like to see some more detail about what he's actually accusing FEMA of. He, and Trump, seem intent on decimating or destroying just about every department in the Federal government. Why do you have so much trust in Elon Musk - because he says the right things?

All I can find is this:
Musk claimed on X that his Department of Government Efficiency "discovered" that FEMA over $50 million to "luxury" hotels for "migrant housing," and doing so violated the president's executive order calling for an immigration crackdown.

A short time later, acting FEMA Administrator Cameron Hamilton posted on X that payments to those luxury hotels had been suspended as of Saturday and “personnel will be held accountable.”

Trump echoed Musk's criticism of FEMA and continued to bash it in a social media post on Truth Social Tuesday.

He said that the agency is being investigated due to allegedly mismanaging money and not helping North Carolina; and that the agency should be "TERMINATED."
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fema-of ... =118692963

Musk "claimed?" Where are any details of what he's actually claiming? Where's the due process?

Trump now wants to TERMINATE FEMA. Are you in favor of that? What happens when the next hurricane hits the SE? All of the folks on the ground in North Carolina, including local government agencies and victims, have all refuted the claim that they didn't "help North Carolina."

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:15 pm
by Sudden Sam
What you posted indicates those payments to hotels stopped on Saturday. So, unless payments continued, what’s the deal with firing the CFO?

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:21 pm
by Mikey
Sudden Sam wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:15 pm What you posted indicates those payments to hotels stopped on Saturday. So, unless payments continued, what’s the deal with firing the CFO?
Seems like they're holding the "personnel" accountable.

What do you think about TERMINATING FEMA?

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:19 pm
by The Seer
Wonder if No Carolina hurricane victims could've used 59 million.....

Hope she was fired harshly.

https://x.com/i/status/1889340779102953766

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 7:23 pm
by Sven Golly
You can't be that dense to think FEMA will be "TERMINATED".

Then again, with the echo chamber you live in, who knows?

Trump will just restructure the agency, so it operates like it should.

As for my trust in Musk I absolutely do.

He has a very stout track record of providing insane value to his shareholders by running very complex businesses successfully.

This DOGE has been a long time coming.

I know you reactionary beta males have a hard time grasping its value.

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:02 pm
by mvscal
Mikey wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:21 pm
Sudden Sam wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:15 pm What you posted indicates those payments to hotels stopped on Saturday. So, unless payments continued, what’s the deal with firing the CFO?
Seems like they're holding the "personnel" accountable.

What do you think about TERMINATING FEMA?
FEMA hasn't been terminated. Several insubordinate employees have been terminated. Surely, you have no issue with that?

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:15 pm
by Mikey
mvscal wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:02 pm
Mikey wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:21 pm
Sudden Sam wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:15 pm What you posted indicates those payments to hotels stopped on Saturday. So, unless payments continued, what’s the deal with firing the CFO?
Seems like they're holding the "personnel" accountable.

What do you think about TERMINATING FEMA?
FEMA hasn't been terminated. Several insubordinate employees have been terminated. Surely, you have no issue with that?
I guess you didn’t actually read my post. I’m shocked.

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:30 pm
by HighPlainsGrifter
Not to worry, little Lib children. A federal judge will be along shortly to order her reinstatement. This is how your government works now.

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:47 pm
by Roux
Imagine having to follow the rule of law, instead of government by blitzkrieg.

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:51 pm
by HighPlainsGrifter
Which law prevents her firing?

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 9:24 pm
by Sudden Sam
Sorry to change subject, but…

Trump to pardon Edward Snowden.

Deep State will shit.

Meanwhile the Grand Tour in Madagascar is one of the best things I’ve ever enjoyed on the telly.

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:38 pm
by Mikey
Better than the SB halftime show?

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:49 pm
by Mikey
mvscal wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:02 pm
Mikey wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:21 pm
Sudden Sam wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:15 pm What you posted indicates those payments to hotels stopped on Saturday. So, unless payments continued, what’s the deal with firing the CFO?
Seems like they're holding the "personnel" accountable.

What do you think about TERMINATING FEMA?
FEMA hasn't been terminated. Several insubordinate employees have been terminated. Surely, you have no issue with that?
So, the funds in question were not taken from any disaster relief program, but specifically authorized by (the Republican) Congress for that specific purpose. The employees were not insubordinate, but doing their jobs as directed by (the Republican) Congress. But don't let that stop your childish little rant. After all, it's water under the bridge, right?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/11/nyre ... otels.html
The Trump administration said on Tuesday that it had fired four employees from the Federal Emergency Management Agency, including the agency’s chief financial officer, over their roles in disbursing federal funds to house migrants in New York City hotels.

The firings capped a startling chain of events that began on Monday with an early-morning social media post by Elon Musk who claimed, misleadingly, that FEMA had recently sent $59 million meant for disaster relief to New York City to pay for “high end hotels” for migrants, and who called the expenditure unlawful.

New York City officials raced to clarify that the federal money had been properly allocated by FEMA under President Joseph R. Biden Jr. last year, adding that it was not a disaster relief grant and had not been spent on luxury hotels.

Nonetheless, just two hours after Mr. Musk’s post, FEMA’s acting director, Cameron Hamilton, announced that the payments in question “have all been suspended” — even though most of the money had already been disbursed — and that “personnel will be held accountable.”

By Tuesday morning, roughly 24 hours after Mr. Musk’s post, the Trump administration had followed through on one part of its pledge.

Tricia McLaughlin, a spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees FEMA, said that the four employees had been terminated “for circumventing leadership to unilaterally make egregious payments for luxury N.Y.C. hotels for migrants.”

Ms. McLaughlin did not specify how the employees had undermined leadership, or how making payments previously appropriated by Congress amounted to unilateral conduct. But she said that those fired included two program analysts, a grant specialist and the agency’s chief financial officer, Mary Comans, whom FEMA’s website identifies as a “longtime public servant.”

“Under President Trump and Secretary Noem’s leadership, D.H.S. will not sit idly and allow deep-state activists to undermine the will and safety of the American people,” Ms. McLaughlin said in her statement, referring to the homeland security secretary, Kristi Noem.

The swift firings underscored Mr. Musk’s growing influence over the federal government as the Trump administration moves to slash government spending and reshape the federal bureaucracy, purging civil servants along the way. Ms. Coman’s firing also appeared to rid FEMA, an agency that Mr. Trump and Ms. Noem have suggested should be eliminated, of the person responsible for managing its $33 billion budget, which helps finance the government’s response to natural disasters.

It remains unclear if the Trump administration will move to claw back federal money that was appropriated by Congress under Mr. Biden to help New York City respond to the more than 230,000 migrants who have arrived there since 2022. Despite the public pronouncements, Liz Garcia, a spokeswoman for City Hall, said that the city had not been informed about any pause in funding.

Mr. Musk said that the payment of congressionally appropriated funds to the city, which he said was “discovered” by his government efficiency team, was unlawful and “in gross insubordination to the President’s executive order.”

He appeared to be referring to an order Mr. Trump issued on Jan. 20 that directed the homeland security secretary to review and pause distribution of federal funding to nongovernmental organizations providing services to “removable or illegal aliens.” It is unclear how the order would apply to payments made to the New York City government.

Mr. Musk, Mr. Hamilton and Ms. McLaughlin did not identify the FEMA payments in question. But they appeared to have been referring to payments made by the Shelter and Services Program, which Congress created in 2023 to dole out grants to groups and localities that provide shelter and other services to migrants who are released from D.H.S. custody after crossing the border.

The program, created under Mr. Biden as border crossings surged and overwhelmed big cities, has drawn intense criticism from Mr. Trump, who falsely claimed on the campaign trail last year that FEMA had spent all of its budget to house migrants, diverting disaster relief funds.

In reality, Congress allocated $650 million to the shelter program through the Customs and Border Protection budget for the 2024 fiscal year. Payments issued by the program are administered by FEMA, but are separate from the billions of dollars the agency spends on disaster relief.

The shelter program has been used by Democratic cities like Denver and Chicago, but also by groups in Republican-led states, including Texas and Arizona.

New York City officials said that Congress appropriated $237 million to the city last year to help reimburse it for a small portion of the more than $7 billion the city and state have spent to shelter, feed and provide other services to migrants.

The city applied for the funds in April 2024 and FEMA began allocating them later in the year, city officials said. The $59 million Mr. Musk referred to in his post, city officials said, appeared to be a payment from FEMA that the city received last week as part of that allocation. About $19 million was spent on hotels, while the rest was used to pay for food, security and congregate shelters, city officials said.

“We have continued to receive previously allocated reimbursements through the past week,” Ms. Garcia, the City Hall spokeswoman, said in a statement. “We will discuss this matter directly with federal officials.”

New York City is currently sheltering 46,000 migrants, largely families with children, in converted warehouses, tent facilities and dozens of hotels, including old hotels in Midtown Manhattan and budget motels in other boroughs. City officials stressed that they do not pay “luxury-hotel rates.”

Federal funding accounts for a fraction of the money the city has spent to respond to the migrant crisis. But the uncertainty over the federal funds seemed to validate early fears among Democrats in New York City, including Mayor Eric Adams, that Mr. Trump could seek to withhold larger amounts of money for housing, transportation and infrastructure.

Some former senior officials at FEMA expressed alarm at the firings, saying that the employees had been fired for simply doing their jobs by distributing federal funds as directed by Congress.

But in New York, Republicans who have long expressed outrage over the use of taxpayer money for migrant services welcomed the news.

“You can’t just ignore what the commander in chief has said via executive order,” said Representative Nicole Malliotakis, a Republican from Staten Island.

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:59 pm
by mvscal
Mikey wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:49 pm
The employees were not insubordinate,
Yes, they were. The order to suspend those allocations was issued, yet they went ahead anyway and authorized the payment. That is the textbook definition of insubordination.

That doesn't even begin to address the issue of FEMA spending on warehousing illegal aliens. I'm fairly certain that isn't their core mission.

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:47 am
by Sudden Sam
Mikey wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:38 pm Better than the SB halftime show?
Don’t recall ever seeing a SB halftime show. Sure wasn’t going to start with this one.

I must have seen one at some point, but I don’t recall any.

Should FEMA be taking care of Asheville and LA? Or illegal immigrants? Seems like a rather obvious answer.

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 8:13 am
by The Seer
HighPlainsGrifter wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:51 pm Which law prevents her firing?
You're confusing the issue. And the lawfare fans.

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 8:53 pm
by Sudden Sam
https://x.com/kristinoem/status/1889745 ... 74088?s=46
Kristi Noem:

“ I have clawed back the full payment that FEMA deep state activists unilaterally gave to NYC migrant hotels.

FEMA was funding the Roosevelt Hotel that serves as a Tren de Aragua base of operations and was used to house Laken Riley’s killer.

Mark my words: there will not be a single penny spent that goes against the interest and safety of the American people.”

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:43 pm
by Roux
https://comptroller.nyc.gov/newsroom/st ... a-funding/


Statement from NYC Comptroller Lander on the Trump Administration’s Illegal Reversal of FEMA Funding
February 12, 2025
“This morning, my financial team shockingly uncovered that President Trump and his crony Elon Musk illegally executed a revocation of $80 million in congressionally-appropriated FEMA funding from New York City’s bank accounts late yesterday afternoon. This is money that the federal government previously disbursed for shelter and services and is now missing. This highway robbery of our funds directly out of our bank account is a betrayal of everyone who calls New York City home.”

“New York City cannot take this lying down. I call on the Mayor to immediately pursue legal action to ensure the tens of millions of dollars stolen by Trump and DOGE are rightfully returned. If instead Mayor Adams continues to be President Trump’s pawn, my Office will request to work in partnership with the New York City Law Department to pursue aggressive legal action.”

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:49 pm
by mvscal
Sudden Sam wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 8:53 pm https://x.com/kristinoem/status/1889745 ... 74088?s=46
Kristi Noem:

“ I have clawed back the full payment that FEMA deep state activists unilaterally gave to NYC migrant hotels.

FEMA was funding the Roosevelt Hotel that serves as a Tren de Aragua base of operations and was used to house Laken Riley’s killer.

Mark my words: there will not be a single penny spent that goes against the interest and safety of the American people.”
A hotel that is owned by Pakistanis and was purchased with USAID dollars and the rent is paid with FEMA dollars. Morons like Spouxge are outraged that the plug was pulled on this shitshow.

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:41 pm
by Sudden Sam
“Our funds”?

Fuck you, NYC. That’s my funds more than it is yours.

Fuck this entire USAID shitshow. Yeah, I understand we have to buy friends or our enemies will take them in. But FEMA shouldn’t be expending one cent to provide shelter for illegal immigrants.

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:16 am
by Roux
RACK CONGRESSMAN GREG CASAR


HELL YES

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 1:07 am
by Diego in Seattle
Where's our IGs?

Let me guess....muhhh Musk (says the sheep).

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 1:09 am
by Sudden Sam
Roux wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:16 am RACK CONGRESSMAN GREG CASAR


HELL YES
Musk makes 8 million a day? Yeah, right.

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 1:09 am
by HighPlainsGrifter
Roux wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:16 am RACK CONGRESSMAN GREG CASAR


HELL YES
1st link: Musk delivers payload to space 10x cheaper than anyone else.

2nd link: No one is cutting Social Security. You were lied to and believed it.

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 1:20 am
by Diego in Seattle
HighPlainsGrifter wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 1:09 am
Roux wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:16 am RACK CONGRESSMAN GREG CASAR


HELL YES
2nd link: No one is cutting Social Security. You were lied to and believed it.
Who lied about conservatives wanting to cut Social Security?

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:57 pm
by Left Seater
This is a great look. Liberals complaining about cutting waste from government. Keep screaming this liberals. Triple down on April 15th.

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 2:41 pm
by Mikey
Left Seater wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:57 pm This is a great look. Liberals complaining about cutting waste from government. Keep screaming this liberals. Triple down on April 15th.
This is a great look. MAGAts crowing about cutting waste from government while demanding a $4 trillion increase in the debt limit.

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 2:49 pm
by 88BuckeyeGrad
Mikey wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 2:41 pm
Left Seater wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:57 pm This is a great look. Liberals complaining about cutting waste from government. Keep screaming this liberals. Triple down on April 15th.
This is a great look. MAGAts crowing about cutting waste from government while demanding a $4 trillion increase in the debt limit.
I hope Team D shuts down the government.

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 3:13 pm
by Mikey
88BuckeyeGrad wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 2:49 pm
Mikey wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 2:41 pm
Left Seater wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:57 pm This is a great look. Liberals complaining about cutting waste from government. Keep screaming this liberals. Triple down on April 15th.
This is a great look. MAGAts crowing about cutting waste from government while demanding a $4 trillion increase in the debt limit.
I hope Team D shuts down the government.
Seater will find a way to justify it. Probably something about Democrat debt costing more than Republican debt.

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 7:32 pm
by Left Seater
Seater clearly got over on ya. Talk about living rent free in one's dome.

:bode:

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 8:16 pm
by Mikey
Left Seater wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 7:32 pm Seater clearly got over on ya. Talk about living rent free in one's dome.

:bode:
Nice white flag.

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2025 1:01 am
by Left Seater
Again, bode.

You kicked your own ass and now think you are in some spot to claim the high ground. Very amusing. We are laughing at you.

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2025 1:51 am
by Mikey
Left Seater wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 1:01 am Again, bode.

You kicked your own ass and now think you are in some spot to claim the high ground. Very amusing. We are laughing at you.
And who, exactly, is “we?”

Is it you and your little brother Dunlop who, at this moment, is hanging over your belt line? Or maybe you and the pink flamingos on your Sunday Goin’ to Meetin’ pant suit?

Most people who need to claim “Bode” for themselves are just showing that they have nothing left. You’re the only one doing that around here, and you’ve done it twice in consecutive posts. Nice job.

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2025 3:09 am
by Diego in Seattle
Mikey wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 1:51 am
Left Seater wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 1:01 am Again, bode.

You kicked your own ass and now think you are in some spot to claim the high ground. Very amusing. We are laughing at you.
Most people who need to claim “Bode” for themselves are just showing that they have nothing left.
Same with the alpha male bullshit.

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2025 1:39 pm
by Left Seater
Mikey wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 1:51 am Nice job.
Running fat smack and clothing smack for the derby says all we need to know about your argument. Attack the source when you got nothing left.

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2025 4:45 pm
by Mikey
Left Seater wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 1:39 pm
Mikey wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 1:51 am Nice job.
Running fat smack and clothing smack for the derby says all we need to know about your argument. Attack the source when you got nothing left.
You completely avoided the question, as per usualm. Nice job.

Re: FEMA CFO fired ?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2025 6:12 pm
by Diego in Seattle
Left Seater wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 1:39 pm
Mikey wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 1:51 am Nice job.
Running fat smack and clothing smack for the derby says all we need to know about your argument. Attack the source when you got nothing left.
"The left-wing news media (anyone other than Faux News or One America News) aren't credible sources!" says what?