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Trump Pardons Two Thanksgiving Turkeys

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:32 pm
by Mikey
One of them deserved it.


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Re: Trump Pardons Two Thanksgiving Turkeys

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:10 pm
by Diego in Seattle
The bright side is that should Cadet Bone Spurs or Pence face criminal charges Flynn can now be forced to testify against them, as Trump just removed Flynn's ability to incriminate himself.

Re: Trump Pardons Two Thanksgiving Turkeys

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:26 am
by Softball Bat
I've never felt good about the presidential right to pardon.

This only adds to that bad feeling.

Re: Trump Pardons Two Thanksgiving Turkeys

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:05 pm
by Kierland
A lame duck provision at the very least is in order.

Re: Trump Pardons Two Thanksgiving Turkeys

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:57 pm
by Smackie Chan
Jsc810 wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:27 pmIt would not surprise me to see trump pardon his family and even himself.
Read an interesting piece about the potential for a President to pardon himself. It hinged on one word - grant. The Constitution's Article 2 wording is "The President ... shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of impeachment." The piece argued that the way grant is defined, there must be someone other than the grantor on the receiving end of the grant; you can't grant something to yourself. Will be interesting to see if/how this plays out in court.

Re: Trump Pardons Two Thanksgiving Turkeys

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:04 pm
by Kierland
You can be the grantor and the grantee of a trust.
You just can’t then also be the trustee.