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.088 wrote:This is a Hungus bet post. If COVID 19 wipes out more than 2.5% of the U.S. population by September 30, 2020, which is generous considering the insane hysteria, I will self-ban myself (even though the board is paid for through 2025 on a new kick-ass server). But if less than 1% of the U.S. population is killed by September 30, 2020 by COVID 19, I am going to IP ban every mother fucker who has the balls to state that this is a real public health crisis in this thread.

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:11 am 88braincells and Jair Bolsenaro=two peas in a pod

Trump allies got coronavirus tests despite lack of symptoms and shortage

By
Mike DeBonis and
Carolyn Y. Johnson
March 10, 2020 at 7:42 p.m. EDT
Two close congressional allies of President Trump underwent coronavirus testing in recent days in apparent defiance of federal recommendations reserving those tests for patients exhibiting symptoms of infection — and amid growing concerns about the availability of testing for Americans who are sick.

Reps. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) and Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), the latter of whom Trump named last week as the next White House chief of staff, both said in statements that the tests showed no infection after exposure to a coronavirus carrier at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference last month in suburban Washington.

The two lawmakers also said they were exhibiting no symptoms of respiratory illness, raising questions of why they were tested at all.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends that health-care providers prioritize tests for hospitalized patients who are exhibiting coronavirus symptoms, elderly and medically fragile individuals, along with others who have shown signs of illness after contact with a known or suspected coronavirus patient.

Gaetz, 37, and Meadows, 60, are not known to belong to any groups at high risk for infection. Spokesmen for the two lawmakers declined to comment beyond their public statements confirming the negative test results and their decision to self-quarantine as a precaution.

The scarcity of testing has emerged as a crucial challenge to the U.S. response to the coronavirus outbreak, with health providers, public officials and individuals all calling for more widespread testing capacity. The unavailability of tests makes it difficult to determine how many Americans are infected with the disease.

Squandered time: How the Trump administration lost control of the coronavirus crisis

Accounts from sick Americans who have struggled to secure testing have proliferated on social media, and one Republican pressed the CDC director Tuesday on why fellow lawmakers were able to get quickly tested when her own constituents were waiting days for results.

“I find it interesting that when my colleagues were in contact with someone who later tested positive [they] were able to get tested almost immediately and quickly receive their results while folks in my district and across Washington state are unable to get their testing results back,” Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler (R-Wash.) told Robert Redfield of the CDC at a House Appropriations Committee hearing.

Redfield acknowledged the shortcomings in testing: “The truth is, we’re underinvested in the public health labs,” he said. “There’s not enough equipment. There’s not enough people. There’s not enough internal capacity. There’s no surge capacity.”

The precise circumstances of the lawmakers’ testing remained sketchy Tuesday.

Gaetz said in an interview Monday that he planned to seek testing at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center later that day, and a person familiar with Meadows’s test said it, too, was conducted at Walter Reed — an institution that is affiliated with both the White House physician's office and the congressional attending physician and often treats members of Congress.

But there were clues of White House involvement in the testing: Four other lawmakers who consulted with the congressional physician, Brian P. Monahan, after exposure to confirmed coronavirus carriers — Reps. Julia Brownley (D-Calif.), Douglas A. Collins (R-Ga.), and Paul A. Gosar (R-Ariz.), as well as Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) — were not told to seek testing, according to their aides.

“This is based on the CDC’s recommendation to not get tested unless symptoms are present,” said Gosar spokesman Ben Goldey. He said Gosar and aides remain healthy.

Gaetz told the Pensacola News-Journal on Tuesday that he was awaiting the results of his test from the White House physician’s office. About an hour after the article published on the newspaper’s website, Gaetz tweeted that the test was negative.

The congressman, who left Washington on Monday afternoon by private vehicle, told the newspaper that he slept in a “Walmart parking lot somewhere off 85” because he couldn’t stay in a hotel.

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:14 am See, this is what disaffected working class voters in the Midwest wanted.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpos ... story.html

Trump allies got coronavirus tests despite lack of symptoms and shortage

By
Mike DeBonis and
Carolyn Y. Johnson
March 10, 2020 at 7:42 p.m. EDT
Two close congressional allies of President Trump underwent coronavirus testing in recent days in apparent defiance of federal recommendations reserving those tests for patients exhibiting symptoms of infection — and amid growing concerns about the availability of testing for Americans who are sick.

Reps. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) and Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), the latter of whom Trump named last week as the next White House chief of staff, both said in statements that the tests showed no infection after exposure to a coronavirus carrier at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference last month in suburban Washington.

The two lawmakers also said they were exhibiting no symptoms of respiratory illness, raising questions of why they were tested at all.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends that health-care providers prioritize tests for hospitalized patients who are exhibiting coronavirus symptoms, elderly and medically fragile individuals, along with others who have shown signs of illness after contact with a known or suspected coronavirus patient.

Gaetz, 37, and Meadows, 60, are not known to belong to any groups at high risk for infection. Spokesmen for the two lawmakers declined to comment beyond their public statements confirming the negative test results and their decision to self-quarantine as a precaution.

The scarcity of testing has emerged as a crucial challenge to the U.S. response to the coronavirus outbreak, with health providers, public officials and individuals all calling for more widespread testing capacity. The unavailability of tests makes it difficult to determine how many Americans are infected with the disease.

Squandered time: How the Trump administration lost control of the coronavirus crisis

Accounts from sick Americans who have struggled to secure testing have proliferated on social media, and one Republican pressed the CDC director Tuesday on why fellow lawmakers were able to get quickly tested when her own constituents were waiting days for results.

“I find it interesting that when my colleagues were in contact with someone who later tested positive [they] were able to get tested almost immediately and quickly receive their results while folks in my district and across Washington state are unable to get their testing results back,” Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler (R-Wash.) told Robert Redfield of the CDC at a House Appropriations Committee hearing.

Redfield acknowledged the shortcomings in testing: “The truth is, we’re underinvested in the public health labs,” he said. “There’s not enough equipment. There’s not enough people. There’s not enough internal capacity. There’s no surge capacity.”

The precise circumstances of the lawmakers’ testing remained sketchy Tuesday.

Gaetz said in an interview Monday that he planned to seek testing at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center later that day, and a person familiar with Meadows’s test said it, too, was conducted at Walter Reed — an institution that is affiliated with both the White House physician's office and the congressional attending physician and often treats members of Congress.

But there were clues of White House involvement in the testing: Four other lawmakers who consulted with the congressional physician, Brian P. Monahan, after exposure to confirmed coronavirus carriers — Reps. Julia Brownley (D-Calif.), Douglas A. Collins (R-Ga.), and Paul A. Gosar (R-Ariz.), as well as Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) — were not told to seek testing, according to their aides.

“This is based on the CDC’s recommendation to not get tested unless symptoms are present,” said Gosar spokesman Ben Goldey. He said Gosar and aides remain healthy.

Gaetz told the Pensacola News-Journal on Tuesday that he was awaiting the results of his test from the White House physician’s office. About an hour after the article published on the newspaper’s website, Gaetz tweeted that the test was negative.

The congressman, who left Washington on Monday afternoon by private vehicle, told the newspaper that he slept in a “Walmart parking lot somewhere off 85” because he couldn’t stay in a hotel.

EAP wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:18 am

two 15 year old boys

88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:33 am This is a Hungus bet post. If COVID 19 wipes out more than 2.5% of the U.S. population by September 30, 2020, which is generous considering the insane hysteria, I will self-ban myself (even though the board is paid for through 2025 on a new kick-ass server). But if less than 1% of the U.S. population is killed by September 30, 2020 by COVID 19, I am going to IP ban every mother fucker who has the balls to state that this is a real public health crisis in this thread.

Go ahead and lay down your markers.

88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:47 am Revelation for you, Pops. You have the same status in my world as Kierland.

Papa Willie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:26 am If this thing doesn't kill at least 200,000 people in the US, then corporate America is going to lynch the fucking media - and they will deserve it, too.

It's a case of crying wolf. Up until now - all of these viruses have been over-hyped. If THIS one turns out the same whilst canceling god knows what, then there are going to be a lot of scared media faggots as well as a number of alarmist doctors... And finally - if this one turns out to be yet another dud, then nobody's going to believe the fuckers if we end up having a true shit-kicker.


PS: 'Tardt's worried because he's really old and already quite compromised...

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:59 am Trump once again played his tried and true card of blaming foreigners for his own incompetence and insecurity.

The virus is ALREADY here. It is spreading the nation as we know it.

Amazing that having a properly functioning government financed by an appropriate level of taxation can actually be useful. Who knew?

Softball Bat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:37 am You are now known for your abject stupidity, but the above post might rank among your most idi0tic ever.


The WHO has declared the virus to be a global pandemic.

It has a kill rate of 5% in Italy, and due to a lack of testing in the U.S., we really have no idea how many people are walking around infected and spreading the virus right now.

In such a situation, erring on the side of caution is surely the way to proceed.


You really are a major fool.

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:10 pm Who do economies crash when Republicans have the White House?

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:10 pm Who do economies crash when Republicans have the White House?

EAP wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:34 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:10 pm Who do economies crash when Republicans have the White House?

Funny, after 8 years of Clinton, a recession ensued.
Guess your memory is Alzheimer's bound.

The economy was spiraling rapidly downward towards thr end of his tenure, and slipped into FULL recession just mere weeks after he left.

Guess you're a low IQ sheep.

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:59 pm

EAP wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:34 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:10 pm Who do economies crash when Republicans have the White House?

Funny, after 8 years of Clinton, a recession ensued.
Guess your memory is Alzheimer's bound.

The economy was spiraling rapidly downward towards thr end of his tenure, and slipped into FULL recession just mere weeks after he left.

Guess you're a low IQ sheep.

We had a recession after 9/11 because GWB fell asleep at the wheel.

Try to keep up, you pathetic pile of human refuse.

atmdad wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:18 pm Screwey, do us all a favor and go lick some doorknobs and elevator buttons.

88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:33 am It’s been happening for a while. But this COVID 19 bullshit is over the top. And I’m calling it COVID 19 because some of you pathetic pussies would bleed out your asshole if I identified it as the Wuhan Virus.

Sports arenas are refusing to allow people who bought a ticket to the event to attend the event due to COVID 19. But the events (which generate TV money) will go on as planned. Think about that. The venue apparently does not give a shit about what the individual thinks. A person could consider their risk (hey, I’m young and healthy and people in my demographic shake COVID 19 off like the garden variety flu that it is). Or, that person could choose not to take a personal risk. But choice is taken away. But not for the athletes and the workers who have to staff those venues. They are still going to have to show up. Fucked up.

Depending on which hysterical news outlet you choose to visit, we are all fucked. Or, unless you are 60+ and have pre-existing respiratory ailments and/or a compromised immune system, it will be no worse than any other flu.

This is a Hungus bet post. If COVID 19 wipes out more than 2.5% of the U.S. population by September 30, 2020, which is generous considering the insane hysteria, I will self-ban myself (even though the board is paid for through 2025 on a new kick-ass server). But if less than 1% of the U.S. population is killed by September 30, 2020 by COVID 19, I am going to IP ban every mother fucker who has the balls to state that this is a real public health crisis in this thread.

Go ahead and lay down your markers.

88 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:28 am Flu season ends in April. It is March.

The infection rate is unknown. The only people who have been tested are very ill, and in hospitals. The very ill test positive and die at a rate of 4-5%, maybe. Elsewhere, yes. But in the U.S., not so much.

If the flu is truly as contagious as it is described, then only the very tail of the bell curve (i.e., the people most vulnerable to die from it) are being identified as infected (i.e., there have to be thousands and thousands who are infected, but non-identified). And even then, the most sick who are being identified as infected are not dying at a shit-your-pants ebola-style rate. Lets see if Tom Hanks takes a dirt nap.

You can piss yourself over anything you want. Makes no difference to me. Your (Kierland and Poptard) ability to understand science, math and to execute even rudimentary logic and reason is well-established to be at the pre-K level. I swear both of you would fall for the "where's your nose?" gag every fucking time.

Yes, it is possible that the Chinese are lying, and the infection is raging there beyond anything we can imagine, and that COVID 19 virus is going to infect 150M in the U.S. and kill 5% of them (7.5M). But I don't see it. There isn't enough time. And it isn't that lethal.

Still waiting for you two (Kierland and Poptard) to place your bets. You pussies are great at the hand wringing and doom projectioning. But when you are called out to put your nic where your bullshit is spewed from, you slink away like the giant, gaping, pussies you know deep down in your soul that you are.

Jsc810 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:18 pm I am not making a bet regarding the death toll in the United States. And while I hope that I don’t get banned for my comments, I will make them anyway.

This is a very serious public health crisis, the worst in our lifetimes.

There very well may be significant loss of life, but I am hopeful that our response to this crisis will save lives.

Err on the side of caution, my friends.