LS - Ever had to pull one of these?

[Mikey]

Seems like it would be a little...umm...disconcerting.

Looks like she was angled about 45 deg to the runway until the last couple of seconds.





https://www.popularmechanics.com/flight ... ate=102218

[Wolfman]

I guess thingsa are better than they were just a few years ago, but I am uneasy with ice and down bursts. Guess I've been watching too many of those Weather Channel shows about plane crashes.

[Mikey]

I have no doubt that pilots train for this kind of crosswind landing but, damn, that just seems pretty wild.

[Mikey]

Strawman...

[Left Seater]

Yup. That happens a good bit.

A few years ago I posted about flying to Manchester in the UK where such landings are commonplace. In that video you can see just how unstable the final approach is with the plane bouncing around. Compare that with a more stable approach where you can’t tell the plane is even moving.

We do train for such landings and we execute them a good bit. They are more common at smaller airports with single runways, large European airports with dual parallel runways and some US hub airports with multiple parallel runways. Most of you that have flown more than 5 times have probably experienced such a landing. The only real way to notice is if the guys up front set it down still angled into the wind. Then you will feel a slight sideways lurch just after the wheels touchdown and the spoilers deploy, putting the full weight of the plane on the wheels.

On some airliners the company practice is to kick out of the crab at about 30 feet above the runway. This prevents the lurch upon landing but it also makes it imperative that you don’t float. In Mikey’s video you can see just befor the plane touches the runway it seems to hang just above the ground (float) in what is known as ground effect. Float for to long when you have kicked out of the crab and you can end up going off the side of the runway.

[atmdad]

Most of you that have flown more than 5 times have probably experienced such a landing.

That is one of those things I could have gone through the rest of my life and be content not knowing.

[Mikey]

I took the train from Oceanside to SLO a few weeks ago. It was a very enjoyable ride.

Especially the part between Ventura and Pismo Beach. All the landings were smooth and straight.

[Carson]

Yup. That happens a good bit.

A few years ago I posted about flying to Manchester in the UK where such landings are commonplace. In that video you can see just how unstable the final approach is with the plane bouncing around. Compare that with a more stable approach where you can’t tell the plane is even moving.

Any thoughts on Schiphol?

[Left Seater]

Schiphol is same same as Birmingham. Even though they have 3 parallel runways and 2 cross wind runways they almost always use the three parallels. So if the wind is 90 degrees off the runway heading you get these type of landings.

If you look at the last video and focus on the 3rd and 4th airplanes you will see type and company differences. The 3rd plane is an A380. That beast stayed crabbed until touchdown. Then you can see the huge rudder deflecting to put the nose gear on the center line. The 4th plane is a much smaller 737 and they kick out the rudder just before touchdown.

You can also see a good amount of float on some of these attempts.