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Anyone heard of them? Never myself.



This must have been the kick-off of synth, '79 for is dead early for this sort of thing and can't think of anything prior. Very different sounding, must have been a kick in the head from what otherwise was going on at the time.

I used to play some Tubeway Army on T1B radio. Great stuff.

Dr_Phibes wrote:
This must have been the kick-off of synth, '79 for is dead early for this sort of thing and can't think of anything prior.

For realz?

The prior decade of Kraftwerk thinks you're dumb.

I'm thinking this was released about the time I got to college - 1970.

While ELP certainly feature a synth as the lead instrument (when it wasn't a Hammond), they definitely weren't a pure synth band (nor was Yes)... like Kraftwerk... who I believed debuted in 1970, also.

By all accounts, Kraftwerk pioneered synth-rock.

Dinsdale wrote: By all accounts, Kraftwerk pioneered synth-rock.

More than that, they actually made many of the instruments they pioneered.

You have to add Suicide and Brian Eno to the early synth discussion.

And the Vikings discovered North America, but no-one cares because they died in obscurity and left no impact.
Got intrigued by that, brilliant time capsule. Numann said, the BBC caked him with a half inch of make-up on Top Of The Pops because his acne was so bad - you couldn't see his features, so they lined his eyes with black. Hey-Ho, image created.

Fuck your Kraftwerk.

Dr_Phibes wrote:And the Vikings discovered North America, but no-one cares because they died in obscurity and left no impact.

Are you really contending that Tubeway Army was more influential or more popular than Kraftwerk?

Hint: when you say something stupid and get clowned for it... don't double down.

Yes.

Tubeway Army charted #1 in Britain with that, they brought forward a genre, it was impactful . Kraftwerk is some unknown artist project and and shall ever remain as such. Is Kraftwerk a 'bands band'? More like no-one cared. It's innovative in some ways, but fart noises to most.

Dr_Phibes wrote:...they brought forward a genre, it was impactful...

...Kraftwerk is some unknown artist project and and shall ever remain as such.

Please. Stop.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraftwerk ... and_legacy

Please stop.

I can't wait for the day Phibes "discovers" Joy Division...



"Hey guys! Ever heard of this band? They're the way-out sound of tomorrow! I hope Ian Curtis hangs around for many years to come!"

Curious. Usually Phibes is good for a solid take, but this thread and his responses..?

Sorry bloke, but yer pure bollocks here.

If you're thinking of 80s pop synth music the literal direct progenitor of that form was Brian Eno, especially his work with David Bowie in the Berlin trilogy.

BSmack wrote:Brian Eno

If it wasn't for Tubeway Army, there wouldn't have been Roxy Music.

Sin,
Phibes

Repeating myself is tiresome.

Gary Numan brought the genre to the British masses. He was the first to chart with it in a major way and popularise it. It existed in a previous void. Once again, there are six people on the planet that can name a Kraftwerk song. No-one cared then and no-one does now. This will not now, or ever change, synthesisers in English music terrified people for decades to come, such was the force of his influence.

If there wasn't the Tornados, there would be no Kraftwerk?

Read back to yourself what you've posted, think about it - and be ashamed. Both of you :x

Dr_Phibes wrote:If there wasn't the Tornados, there would be no Kraftwerk?

Read back to yourself what you've posted, think about it - and be ashamed. Both of you :x

Synthesizer music was all over the rock seen by the time Tubeway Army (Gary Numan) hit the scene.



"Gee I sure wish Tubeway Army would come along and invent this stuff."

Dr_Phibes wrote:He was the first to chart with it in a major way and popularise it. It existed in a previous void.

It did exist in a void... until Autobahn hit #4 on the UK charts, and #5 in the US and Upper Mexico.

http://diffuser.fm/kraftwerk-hall-of-fame/

You've earned every bit of this pile-on.

C'mon Dins...is this the quality of your mercy?


Where's that world famous U&L compassion? (I'm on Season 3 of Portlandia...should I be expected a cameo from you in an upcoming episode?)

No surrender.

There are degrees of accomplishment and realms. I've specified it, Gary Numan brought synth in a popular way to England, influenced the masses and it exploded.
Kraftwerk did not do this.

I can repeat this another fifty times if it makes you happy.

And just so we're clear, Gary Numan brought synth in a popular way to England, influenced the masses and it exploded.
Kraftwerk did not do this.

https://www.shortlist.com/entertainment ... uses/76881

And you do realize that Gary Numan's (who I'm a fan of) biggest hit came when he changed a couple of notes from a Kraftwerk song, right?

Gary Numan once wrote:

“It was probably John Peel that first played me Kraftwerk. It would’ve been the mid-to-late Seventies and it was probably Trans-Europe Express he played. I don’t know if any of my friends even knew about them – they were all David Bowie or T Rex fans – but I loved it. They had cool sounds and simple melodies, sometimes two or three notes would do if they were just the right ones. They sounded very different to anybody else. They’d find a certain groove or a vocal sound that fitted together perfectly.

So, Kraftwerk came first and INFLUENCED Numan.

Can we end this discussion now?

Oh hell, I've got to add this. Larry Fast of Synergy fame came along before all of these artists. He, along with Walter (now Wendy) Carlos pretty much popularized synthesizer music as an art form. Fast performed on many other musicians records and is an icon.

No number one hits mind you, but without him and Kraftwerk, Numan's career would have charted a different path.

Never argued that Kraftwerk wasn't an influence on Numan. It's absolutely true. He did bring it to the fore - self-criticism for me re: Brian Eno. I am stronger for it. Don't think Numan is any different than Nirvana, nothing was original - but created a wave of its own. (for better or worse)

Dr_Phibes wrote:Nirvana, nothing was original

Correct. Other bands had a guitarist who held his fingers on the same frets and strummed, and a drummer that mimicked a drum machine.