Stick a fork in Brett Kavanaugh

[Goober McTuber]

He already explained why he and his wife didn't make a baby. I thought the adoption thing was an innocent question.

Now if I suggested that he was a typical Republican who opposed abortion but also didn't care about the unwanted kid after they were born, that would be a dick move. I'm much too classy for that.

Adoption is great. I'm glad you adopted kids. My sister gave what was my nephew at the time up for adoption and now he's living a killer life that he would have never received from my sister.

Neither of us was particularly wrong. Let's continue to keep our smack efforts focused on the REAL enemy: Meltspray.

Boom. The head shit slinging monkey gives his boy Gobbles a reach around and throws in a complete nut massage to seal the deal. Epic.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You imagine stuff like this when you want to bust a nut. The rest of us shag the old lady, or look at porn.

[Left Seater]

We kicked adoption around, but never got too serious about it. We both travel a lot for work. With a kid, both of us would need to move into different rolls since kids need both parents. We also decided it wouldn't be fair for one or the other to give up their career and the other stay home. So...

[Goober McTuber]

A very reasonable answer. Rack you for not adopting kids to be raised by daycare and babysitters.

[Softball Bat]

We've systematically erased a big chunk of what would be our tax base.

Do you feel the same way about all types of birth control?

Life indisputably begins at conception.
As a society, we ought to recognize that obvious fact and put laws in place to protect the vulnerable life.

People can do what they want prior to conception.

[Dinsdale]

Life indisputably begins at conception.

If a person says that if an organism isn't capable of living in a non-parasitic fashion until it further matures, it isn't living...

Guess what? They just disputed it.

The dictionary is your friend.

[Softball Bat]

The warped imagination of some humans is really something.

A person on life support is not living?
A person who is dependent on a respirator?

Snuff 'em out!


Life begins at conception.
Indisputably.


38 states have homicide laws that recognize unborn victims.
https://www.nrlc.org/federal/unbornvict ... aws092302/

Mommy should not be allowed to slaughter the helpless unborn.

Sick.

[Dinsdale]

A person on life support is not living?
A person who is dependent on a respirator?

So, along with "indisputable," we can add "parasitic" to words you really need to look up in the dictionary.

You're very unsmart.

[Softball Bat]

I'm afraid you are flailing very badly here.
No surprise.

The "parasitic" standard you want to establish is pulled straight from your ass.


They live due to the mother, therefore I claim they are not living.

- Dinsdale


They live due to the respirator, therefore I claim they are not living.

- Some other asshat



Look up depraved in the dictionary.

[Derron]

BTW, Screwy, you don't have to be a dick 24/7.

Sure he does. Probably a genetic trait that is helped along with environmental imprinting in the laundry mat, peep show mopping, and his insane trolling for Trump porn.

[ML@Coyote]

People can do what they want prior to conception.

Since you brought it up earlier, what happened to "be fruitful and multiply?"

How is birth control prior to conception in line with God's will?

[Softball Bat]

God gave the Word to be fruitful and multiply two times.

To Adam (Genesis 1:28): Adam was sinless and in a state of being in the full and glorious image of God. At that time, God gave the Word to be fruitful and multiply.

To Noah (Genesis 9:1,7): Noah had just come before God with a blood sacrifice and he was in a state of being sinless before God. At this time, God told Noah to be fruitful and to multiply. God established His Covenant with Noah at this time.


To multiply means just that.
Make more of... you.

But realize the state of both of the "you" folks to which this was directly spoken.

God gave no directive on how many multiplications need to take place.
But many offspring is seen as a blessed thing -- Psalms 127:3-5.


Certainly we see Commandment #6.
Thous shalt not kill.

Killing a fetus is killing.
It is most definitely life.

God formed this life. He knows the life in the womb. Life is precious and is of God.
Jeremiah 1:5, Isaiah 44:24, and others.


Stopping conception is not killing.

[ML@Coyote]

God gave the Word to be fruitful and multiply two times.

To Adam (Genesis 1:28): Adam was sinless and in a state of being in the full and glorious image of God. At that time, God gave the Word to be fruitful and multiply.

To Noah (Genesis 9:1,7): Noah had just come before God with a blood sacrifice and he was in a state of being sinless before God. At this time, God told Noah to be fruitful and to multiply. God established His Covenant with Noah at this time.

So unless you're sinless, "be fruitful and multiply" doesn't apply to you?

[Softball Bat]

Your question is sort of on the right track.

Here...


God's Word is the Word of creation and it is always perfectly fulfilled.
So let's take it from beginning to ending, 1, 2, 3.

1) Genesis 1:27-28 - (to Adam, sinless) be fruitful, multiply, and have dominion over everything on earth ----> 2) Colossians 1:22 - (to those who are in Christ) we are holy and blameless before God -----> 3) Revelation 11:15 and Revelation 5:10 - (to those who are in Christ) the kingdoms of the world belong to Christ and those who are redeemed by Christ, where we shall reign (have dominion) for ever and ever. Christ, and those in Christ, will eternally fulfill the Word (have dominion) God spoke to Adam (and Noah).

Those who are outside of God's Word are already out of the above fulfillment.
They can easily get IN, and I hope they do.


God's Words to Adam and Noah (both sinless -- or redeemed in the case of Noah) were to be fruitful and multiply.

"Produce offspring who are also within My Covenant," is a paraphrase of God's Words to Adam and Noah.


To directly answer your question, God's Words to Adam apply to all of humanity, because Adam was humanity's representative.
He was our human father.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Pop, how's the missionary work going? When are you due back in your rightful homeland?

[Softball Bat]

I'm coming to America next week.
For a month.

Then back here to S. Korea.
Unfinished business.

[ML@Coyote]

God's Words to Adam and Noah (both sinless -- or redeemed in the case of Noah) were to be fruitful and multiply.

"Produce offspring who are also within My Covenant," is a paraphrase of God's Words to Adam and Noah.

To directly answer your question, God's Words to Adam apply to all of humanity, because Adam was humanity's representative.
He was our human father.

So...all humanity is to be fruitful and multiply, And it follows that, for all humanity, the use of birth control before or after conception is against the will of God.

Do I have it right?

[Softball Bat]

God gave no directive on how many multiplications need to take place.
But many offspring is seen as a blessed thing -- Psalms 127:3-5.

[ML@Coyote]

God gave no directive on how many multiplications need to take place.
But many offspring is seen as a blessed thing -- Psalms 127:3-5.

Okay, let's see if I can get this nailed down.

It is okay for people to use birth control to regulate the number of children they will have?

[Softball Bat]

I see no reason why it would not be ok to practice birth control.

[BSmack]

To directly answer your question, God's Words to Adam apply to all of humanity, because Adam was humanity's representative.
He was our human father.

I didn't vote for him. What kind of fucked up electoral college witchcraft did that?

[ML@Coyote]

I see no reason why it would not be ok to practice birth control.

Did God say that men could make exceptions to his commandments?

In other words, thou shalt not kill anyone unless he happens to be any enemy soldier, or thou shalt not work on the sabbath unless he happens to be officiating an NFL game, or thou shalt not take the Lord's name in vain unless he hits his thumb with a hammer.

Are there exceptions to the commandments?

[Softball Bat]

The commandments you cited are part of God's Law.
No, there are no exceptions to God's Law.

Sinners will be judged by the Law. Romans 2:12.

But Christ is the end of the Law for righteousness for those who will simply believe in Him. Romans 10:4, Romans 8:4.
Believers in Christ will not be condemned by the law.
We are free.


Do you know what God's first Law was?

Genesis 2:17.
You will surely die.
But Christ came to undo that.
Romans 8:2.


God's Commandments (Law) was given so that the Jews could be blessed, maintained, and produce the Messiah.

That Messiah has most assuredly come.

[ML@Coyote]

The commandments you cited are part of God's Law.
No, there are no exceptions to God's Law.

Are you as vehemently opposed to our armed soldiers and Sunday NFL officiating crews as you are opposed to doctors who perform abortions?

[Softball Bat]

Short answer, no.


I don't know that anything represents the decline of America more than the state sanction of large-scale barbaric slaughter of innocent life.

It is every bit as horrendous as the Holocaust, and perhaps worse.

This is a people who have clearly lost their way.

[Goober McTuber]

That Messiah has most assuredly come.

Was it John or Paul?

[ML@Coyote]

I don't know that anything represents the decline of America more than the state sanction of large-scale barbaric slaughter of innocent life.

Here is some more "large scale" evidence of your barbarism:

Every Sunday 38 million people work in violation of God's law.

The US spends about 600 billion dollars a year on its military largely to violate God's law

Don't these large scale numbers concern you? Where is the outrage? Do you claim these large scale violations of God's law aren't as important as abortions. And if that's what you claim, who exactly appointed you in charge of making such a determination?

Isn't it true that every man and woman makes this determination according to their own conscience?

[Screw_Michigan]

I'm coming to America next week.
For a month.

Then back here to S. Korea.
Unfinished business.

[Derron]

Then back here to S. Korea.
Unfinished business.

Some of the local dog population is still walking around and has not been eaten yet. The slants are very hard to convince that the earth is flat. Hopefully you have better luck converting the slants than you do the heathen at this board.

Get your ass to work.

[Softball Bat]

The US spends about 600 billion dollars a year on its military largely to violate God's law

The Hebrew word רָצַח (ratsach) is translated as kill in the KJV.
Many/most other Bible versions use murder.

It is easy to understand the meaning of this word.

After having given the commandment not to "kill," God often ordered military action on the part of the Israelites -- where they would... kill other folks.

God also gave instructions to have people killed if they violated the Law.

[ML@Coyote]

The US spends about 600 billion dollars a year on its military largely to violate God's law

The Hebrew word רָצַח (ratsach) is translated as kill in the KJV.
Many/most other Bible versions use murder.

It is easy to understand the meaning of this word.

After having given the commandment not to "kill," God often ordered military action on the part of the Israelites -- where they would... kill other folks.

God also gave instructions to have people killed if they violated the Law.

God gave an order to kill, okay. But what gives men the right to give such orders? Are they God?

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

The Hebrew word רָצַח (ratsach) is translated as kill in the KJV.

Which part of the NT is originally in Hebrew?

[Softball Bat]

God gave an order to kill, okay. But what gives men the right to give such orders? Are they God?

The authorities in place are there by the will of God -- and Paul instructs believers to be subject to them.
Romans 13:1-10.

[Softball Bat]

The Hebrew word רָצַח (ratsach) is translated as kill in the KJV.

Which part of the NT is originally in Hebrew?

That is from the OT.
Exodus 20:13.

[ML@Coyote]

The authorities in place are there by the will of God -- and Paul instructs believers to be subject to them.
Romans 13:1-10.

I asked you what gave men the right to kill, and you fed me the above line.

Do you see where I'm going with this?

[Softball Bat]

Right.

Abortion is legal.
That doesn't mean I have to agree with it.

I don't advocate blowing up abortion clinics.

[ML@Coyote]

Right.

Abortion is legal.
That doesn't mean I have to agree with it.

I don't advocate blowing up abortion clinics.

Not only is it legal, but according to what you've told me, it is the will of God.

The authorities in place are there by the will of God -- and Paul instructs believers to be subject to them.
Romans 13:1-10.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

The Hebrew word רָצַח (ratsach) is translated as kill in the KJV.

Which part of the NT is originally in Hebrew?

That is from the OT.
Exodus 20:13.

Maybe you didn't know this...it's late-beaking news...but, God issued a new covenant...
You should check your Twitter feed more often.

[Softball Bat]

God issued a new covenant

I have spoken about that now in multiple posts.


ML, the Bible shows many examples of people getting the leaders they deserve, by God's will.

They Jews were taken captive in Egypt and Babylon, where many horrendous things happened to them -- by God's will.

When you lose hold of the Covenant, this is the inevitable and rightful result.


The abortion nightmare coming upon the American people is rightful.
They have welcomed darkness.
Darkness they will have.

[ML@Coyote]

So it is God's will that you follow his rules. And if you don't follow them, it is his will that you don't follow them so you can suffer the consequences. That's like saying I hope my children don't become heroin addicts, but if they do, I hope they stick with it so they can see that I was right.

No thanks.

[Screw_Michigan]

Kavanaugh will be testifying again under oath next week, a sure sign his nomination is in doubt. Who will be the next sexual assaulter that Trump and the GOP will try to jam through the nomination process?