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mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Sun Aug 09, 2015 4:18 pm

Stench and the City: SF's Summer of Urine
Debra J. Saunders | Aug 09, 2015

How bad is the urine situation in San Francisco? This is not a joke: Monday night, a light pole corroded by urine collapsed and crashed onto a car, narrowly missing the driver. The smell is worse than I have known since I started working for The Chronicle in 1992. It hits your nose on the BART escalator before you reach Market Street. That sour smell can bake for blocks where street people sleep wrapped in dirty blankets. I talked to Mayor Ed Lee and rode around with police to find out what can be done to clean up San Francisco.

Why does the city stink so? With the drought there has been less rain to wash away the city's sins. Prosperity has produced a building boom -- so there are fewer vacant spaces where the homeless can burrow.

I asked Lee Wednesday why other cities seem so much cleaner than San Francisco. "I think they enjoy serious winters," Lee answered -- cold weather can drive street people to easier climates. Ess Eff doesn't have really cold weather: "We're a year-round attraction for various lifestyles."

Lee said things I didn't think I'd hear a San Francisco mayor ever say. Like: "I do think that people are being somewhat more irresponsible." (Remember: The first step in solving a problem is to recognize that it exists.) And: "It's not so much the urination," but "historic levels of drug use."

Changes in California law and policy mean that offenses that once rated as felonies are now misdemeanors. Police can't lock up drug users as they once did. Prisons and jails are releasing inmates who, Lee added, haven't worked through their "bad habits."

This year, Hizzoner has ramped up public restroom access. Newly staffed Pit Stop public toilets have decreased requests for sidewalk steam cleaning in the Tenderloin. They've put a pissoir in Dolores Park. The mayor has budgeted more money for Department of Public Works cleanup crews and for housing to improve the lot of 500 homeless families at a time. The new Navigation Center in the Mission has drawn chronic homeless who resisted programs because they refused to part with their pets and possessions. Last year, the board of supervisors adopted a version of Laura's Law that allows authorities to compel the mentally ill to accept outpatient treatment. Still, Lee warned, better bathroom facilities won't necessarily change the habits of street people who "can't even make a rational decision because they're so drugged out."

http://townhall.com/columnists/debrajsa ... e-n2036342

Too funny................................................................

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Sun Aug 09, 2015 5:19 pm

"Piss that isn't running off your back when you're on all fours in a bathtub in a Castro Street flop house is piss wasted".

:x

Sincerely, Milton

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sun Aug 09, 2015 5:36 pm

When you have to actually commission a company to develop a special pee-resistant paint to "coat" the city with..........you might have a public urination problem.

R-Jack · Post by **R-Jack** » Sun Aug 09, 2015 6:18 pm

I blame the drought. Cutting back on drinking water has made bum puss far more acidic.

Jay in Phoenix · Post by **Jay in Phoenix** » Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:00 pm

"We built this city on Piss and Trolls..."

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:30 am

Have not been to SF since 1994. It was not a huge problem from my perspective then. I bet it is not a problem in Chinatown.

trev · Post by **trev** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:38 am

Eww. That's pretty gross. I think I'll stay in beautiful Sandy Eggo.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:02 am

trev wrote:Eww. That's pretty gross. I think I'll stay in beautiful Sandy Eggo.

Where one can enjoy the odor of urine as they walk down Broadway (especially by the federal courthouse).

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:39 pm

Wolfman wrote:Have not been to SF since 1994. It was not a huge problem from my perspective then. I bet it is not a problem in Chinatown.

Yeah, some of the other smells in chinatown can give even dehydrated bum piss a run for its money.

The State · Post by **The State** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:03 pm

Omaha, Nebraska

"Darwin's way of telling you... you've run out of options"

Obviously, it's against the law... to have (mountains, hills, trees, lakes, as well as an ocean)

Too funny...

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Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 5:15 pm

The State wrote:Obviously, it's against the law... to have (mountains, hills, trees, lakes, as well as an ocean)

At least there's no river of urine.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 5:27 pm

Goober McTuber wrote:
The State wrote:Obviously, it's against the law... to have (mountains, hills, trees, lakes, as well as an ocean)

At least there's no river of urine.

Like the one in Colorado?

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 5:32 pm

They probably wish that was only urine.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 5:36 pm

Does CO, NM, AZ etc get to fine the EPA in this situation? You know damn well the EPA would be handing out huge fines if this situation were reversed.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 5:56 pm

Bravo!

-Robert Maplethorpe

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:01 pm

Diego,

Whoever led you to believe that you are the least bit funny has done you (and this board) a tremendous disservice.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:25 pm

Left Seater wrote:Does CO, NM, AZ etc get to fine the EPA in this situation? You know damn well the EPA would be handing out huge fines if this situation were reversed.

They fucked up big time and will definitely be sued by multiple parties.

Too bad the mining company that created the original problem no longer exists. Of course mining, oil, coal and other interests should be allowed to extract their resources without any consequences for the toxic shit they leave behind.

Smackie Chan · Post by **Smackie Chan** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 10:05 pm

mvscal wrote:
Stench and the City: SF's Summer of Urine
Too funny................................................................

You obviously just don't get it. Stale, noxious, pole-corroding piss is the fragrant aroma of cosmopolitan sophistication secretly yearned for by fly-over hicks throughout the heartland. Tony Bennett was confused - he left his bladder in SF.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 10:24 pm

If you're going to San Francisco
Be sure to walk the Tenderloin if you dare
If you're going to San Francisco
You're gonna meet some homeless people there

For those who come to San Francisco
Summertime has urine in the air
In the streets of San Francisco
Homeless people will pee just anywhere

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 1:15 am

Goober McTuber wrote:Diego,

Whoever led you to believe that you are the least bit funny has done you (and this board) a tremendous disservice.

Reading a Diego post looking for the funny is like 'spray posting a selfie of his most recent bout with hemorrhoids... things you hope and plan on never seeing.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 1:18 am

I guess I better watch out....the board's AARP wing is after me.

Wags, have another gulp of communion wine.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Tue Aug 11, 2015 1:30 am

The State wrote:...mountains

SF should just round up all its homeless and stick them in the mountains. The mass runoff of bum pee would create a pissalanche of biblical proportions. Maybe build a drainage system around the base of the mountains where it all goes straight to a purification plant where they turn it into useable water to help with the supply issue.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 1:33 am

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:
The State wrote:...mountains
SF should just round up all its homeless and stick them in the mountains. The mass runoff of bum pee would create a pissalanche of biblical proportions. Maybe build a drainage system around the base of the mountains where it all goes straight to a purification plant where they turn it into useable water to help with the supply issue.

They could make it a tourist destination. Who wouldn't want to piss on SF?

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 1:33 am

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:
The State wrote:...mountains
SF should just round up all its homeless and stick them in the mountains.

Well I stand up next to a mountain...
And I chop it down with the stream of my piss...

The State · Post by **The State** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 1:55 am

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:
The State wrote:...mountains
SF should just round up all its homeless and stick them in the mountains. The mass runoff of bum pee would create a pissalanche of biblical proportions. Maybe build a drainage system around the base of the mountains where it all goes straight to a purification plant where they turn it into useable water to help with the supply issue.

You Midwesterners... will believe anything. Especially, mvsnqqer's right-wing neoconservative trash mag and all its fallacies.

"Baghdad by the Bay "

The most beautiful city in the world... and its not close.

An uncensored view and trip into "The City"

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Jay in Phoenix · Post by **Jay in Phoenix** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:48 am

So then Milty, that piss reflecting paint your precious "city" Is implementing everywhere is just for show, right?

The State · Post by **The State** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:56 am

Jay in Phoenix wrote:So then Milty, that piss reflecting paint your precious "city" Is implementing everywhere is just for show, right?

The State wrote:You Midwesterners... will believe anything. Especially, mvsnqqer's right-wing neoconservative trash mag and all its fallacies.

Add "desert rats" to the list.

The State · Post by **The State** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 7:10 am

There isn't a HOT chick in the world... that doesn't LOVE "Baghdad"

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The State · Post by **The State** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 7:28 am

HOT chicks... LOVE "Baghdad" !

Will it EVER end ?

Not only does this fucking beauty... LOVE... San Francisco... she LOVES pron !

Psst... tards.

Let me let you in on a little secret....

It's GOOD.... being the only "straight" guy in a city full of HOT chicks.

Just a little heads up.

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The State · Post by **The State** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:03 am

trev wrote:Eww. That's pretty gross. I think I'll stay in beautiful Sandy Eggo.

Cool.

That desert shithole... needs you.

We're only looking for HOT chicks with a brain.

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The State · Post by **The State** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:33 am

Anyways... Baghdad does what Baghdad... does.

Rocked out with ELTON... and 200,000 of my closest friends... Sunday Night !

"Outside Lands"... the LARGEST concert in the WORLD... this year,

Of course, he choose "Baghdad" Sunday night... to get off !

It's how we roll...

Fucking $$$ !!!

You know who I am...

Y2K · Post by **Y2K** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:49 am

Elton came and everyone pissed in the street for an encore..it was epcot!

The State · Post by **The State** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:09 am

Y2K wrote:Elton came and everyone pissed in the street for an encore..it was epcot!

Hilarious.

There's a reason why I've kept you in Fresno.

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LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:21 am

Having just strode these very stretches this evening, I can assure you the stench is not that bad. There's a good steady breeze blowing it all away. Sure, the huddled freaks--the oddly shaped weird toddling bums--are camping on Duboce under the freeway, and on Harrison and Sixth. But Elton John, regardless of how much they're paying him, is actually dead--something out of The Strain--humphilling along, a nice distraction for texting youth. He offers no truth. None.

Carson · Post by **Carson** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 10:20 am

You tell 'em, LES PAUL 2.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:01 am

Carson wrote:LES PAUL 2

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 1:30 pm

The State wrote:Let me let you in on a little secret....

It's GOOD.... being the only "straight" guy in a city full of HOT chicks.

So.....you know this "straight" guy?

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 2:45 pm

Last time I wanted to see a "concert" with 200,000 people was...never.

Y2K · Post by **Y2K** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 2:57 pm

Mikey wrote:Last time I wanted to see a "concert" with 200,000 people was...never.

But...It's "the city" man...that's how they roll
Sure,.. You don't live in a town where the infrastruture is crumbling under piss and vomit...
Obviously just another "Elitist" LoCal

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:20 pm

Y2K wrote:
Obviously just another "Elitist" LoCal

Yep that's me. Total "Elitist".

My brother went and saw EJ at Harvey's Tahoe last week with a couple thousand people. Said it rocked, and he actually could see the show. No urine or vomit there either, but probably a lot of Elitists.