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Study: Seattle Worker Needs Min. Wage Of $21.60/Hour To Afford Two-Bedroom Rental

Even hiking the minimum wage to $15 an hour may not be enough to allow low-wage workers to afford rent in Seattle, according to a new study by the National Low Income Housing Coalition.

The group says a full-time worker in the Seattle-Bellevue metro area needs to earn $21.60 an hour to afford a two-bedroom apartment. That’s the so-called housing wage that the group calculates. In Washington state, the housing wage is $18.65 per hour.

The group estimated that the worker spends no more than 30 percent of his or her income on rent and utilities. For the price of a two-bedroom apartment in Seattle, the group used $1,123 per month, the fair-market rent estimated by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.

http://kplu.org/post/study-seattle-work ... oom-rental

Pure horseshit for idiots who are too far gone or too fucking stupid to light up more than two neurons at a time.

So the lowest level workers need to earn $45K. If that is the case how are the poor folks on welfare going to be able to afford their McDonald's? Say goodbye to the dollar menu and hello to the five dollar menu.

This of course will lead to more handwringing about how the evil rich corporations (McDonalds) are sticking it to the poor.

Left Seater wrote:So the lowest level workers need to earn $45K.

False.

Why does a single worker need to rent a 2 bedroom apartment? Or rent one at the fair market rate? He or she can get a room mate and they would only need to make $10.80 an hour. They can make that much easily enough slinging grande Fapgasmic Dildoccinos at Starbucks.

Why do they only need one roommate? If they get three roommates they only need to make around 5$ an hr.

mvscal wrote:

Pure horseshit for idiots who are too far gone or too fucking stupid to light up more than two neurons at a time.

This stuff really upsets you doesn't it?

I assume you once had a life. What happened?

Mikey wrote:I assume you once had a life. What happened?

He lives in Nebraska. He's another winter from going on a shooting spree with a teenage girl.

Pay your workers shit wages, then expect them to buy your produce on credit.

Let me know how that works out for you.

Mikey wrote:

mvscal wrote:

Pure horseshit for idiots who are too far gone or too fucking stupid to light up more than two neurons at a time.

This stuff really upsets you doesn't it?

Why would I need to be upset to identify bullshit?

Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:Pay your workers shit wages,

Shouldn't shit jobs pay shit wages?

Jsc810 wrote:"Of all developed countries, the United States has the most unequal distribution of income," says Reich, who is also a noted economist, professor, and author, in the film, "and we're surging towards even greater inequality.

We also have the most uncontrolled illegal immigration and Democrats want to bring in even more of them. Illegal immigration has a catastrophically negative impact on wages at the lower end of the spectrum.

If you are concerned about income inequality, you must support aggressive enforcement and deportation of all illegal immigrants.

"Who is actually looking out for the American worker? The answer is nobody."

The answer is conservatives.

I'm sure the skewed wealth distribution has nothing to do with the geniuses that decided it was a good idea to offer incentives to ship jobs overseas, then charge an onerous tax should companies actually want to bring their profits back into the US.

Who came up with that stupid idea, anyway? Oh, that's right -- the husband of the person that JSC wants to be the next president. Talk about party-blindness leading to stupidity -- support Clinton, then complain about income inequality... dumbass.

Don't get me wrong, it was a bipartisan grift. But go ahead and keep reelecting the people who support this ridiculous policy, asshats.

Jsc810 wrote:But clearly it is a major problem,

Why? Wealth is not a zero sum equation. You understand that, right? It's really not that tough to make a decent living for yourself here.

mvscal wrote: They can make that much easily enough slinging Elgrande Fapgasmic Dildoccinos at Starbucks.

FTFY

mvscal wrote:

Jsc810 wrote:But clearly it is a major problem,

Why?

Ask King Louis XVI, mouth-breather.

In most all cases, people earn what they're worth or deserve.

Likewise, it's not how much you make that matters, it's how much you keep.

War Wagon wrote:In most all cases, people earn what they're worth or deserve.

Likewise, it's not how much you make that matters, it's how much you keep.

My, what a naive little simpleton you are.

It's not naive, it's common sense.

88 wrote:And while you are doing that, make sure you acknowledge that the Democrats controlled the House throughout Reagan's presidency (and the Senate too, for part of it).

Wow.

You mean Presidents actually have to deal with an opposing party -- and work to compromise?

Jsc,

As an attorney, would you be willing to reduce your wages in order to close this income gap? It is far easier to restrict the earrings of those who make too much than it is to inflate the earnings of those at the bottom.



War,

Don't mind Diego. He thinks that length of time on the job is a measure of an employees worth rather than merit. An employee in the same position for twenty years who hasn't been promoted and produces 20 widgets is worth far more than an employee in the same job who has only been there for a few months but produces 50 widgets.

Left Seater wrote:Jsc,

As an attorney, would you be willing to reduce your wages in order to close this income gap? It is far easier to restrict the earrings of those who make too much than it is to inflate the earnings of those at the bottom.

Likewise, why don't you conservatives adopt all the unwanted babies instead of interfering with a woman's right to choose what she does with her body (and life)?

War,

Don't mind Diego. He thinks that length of time on the job is a measure of an employees worth rather than merit. An employee in the same position for twenty years who hasn't been promoted and produces 20 widgets is worth far more than an employee in the same job who has only been there for a few months but produces 50 widgets.

And I'm sure that's the exact same line of thinking that Boeing executives used when they decided to have that bunch of 7Late7 planes built in South Carolina. How'd that work out for them?

Diego in Seattle wrote:
And I'm sure that's the exact same line of thinking that Boeing executives used when they decided to have that bunch of 7Late7 planes built in South Carolina. How'd that work out for them?

Seems to be working quite well for them. I have flown on a 787 assembled in SC. It was a very pleasant flight.


It may have been the same thinking that kept the 777x in Washington. A vote that prevents a strike before 2024, ends pension contributions in 2016, etc, etc. The local leadership would rather have seen the jobs go away, thankfully for the workers the National leadership forced a vote.



Further get over the delays to the 787. The A380 had them as well. They also had a huge issue with the plane that almost cost lives. See also delays in the A350. Had every single part been manufactured and installed in Washington state, there still would have been delays and teething issues, like damn near all new planes brought to market.

Left Seater wrote:

Diego in Seattle wrote:
And I'm sure that's the exact same line of thinking that Boeing executives used when they decided to have that bunch of 7Late7 planes built in South Carolina. How'd that work out for them?

Seems to be working quite well for them. I have flown on a 787 assembled in SC. It was a very pleasant flight.


It may have been the same thinking that kept the 777x in Washington. A vote that prevents a strike before 2024, ends pension contributions in 2016, etc, etc. The local leadership would rather have seen the jobs go away, thankfully for the workers the National leadership forced a vote.



Further get over the delays to the 787. The A380 had them as well. They also had a huge issue with the plane that almost cost lives. See also delays in the A350. Had every single part been manufactured and installed in Washington state, there still would have been delays and teething issues, like damn near all new planes brought to market.

Yeah, it's going reeeeal well for them.

Sincerely,
South Carolina media.

And by the way, that's 1.5 planes per month compared to 7 done in Washington. But I guess in your world experience & know-how isn't worth anything, right?

Finally, yes all planes have hiccups. But between the fastener fuckup by outsource supplier Alenia in Italy & the total FUBAR at South Carolina (most of their products have to be reworked when they get to Everett) this plane is YEARS behind & has cost the company BILLIONS (they'll be lucky to even make it out of the red).

Your analysis is the aeronautical version of Baghdad Bob. Take off your bukake-covered glasses & look at reality.

Enforce antitrust, repeal Wickard, reduce the military industrial complex and set reasonable tariffs. It could be fixed in a week.

Nice string of fallacies 88.

And just so we are all on the same page, right or wrong, income inequality is going to fall. The only question is, will it be from the tip of a pen or the tip of a bullet?

Nice string of phallicies, Sale? Get on board the Victimization Train, li'l man. 88 is agitpropin' for you. He is advocating a set of standards that will allow you to compete as if you secretly put a pair of lifts in the heels of your shoes. You'll finally be able to look your competition in the eye rather than the bellybutton. And then DiS might stop confusing you for a 2nd grader.

Diego in Seattle wrote:
Yeah, it's going reeeeal well for them.

Sincerely,
South Carolina media.

Moving Sale wrote:Enforce antitrust, repeal Wickard, reduce the military industrial complex and set reasonable tariffs. It could be fixed in a week.

For once, I think I actually agree with you. It won't cure the problem by itself, but, it is a good start.

I don't have any rose colored glasses on. At the end of the day Boeing may have made the wrong choice for its plant outside of Washington. A better choice would have been North Texas, North Florida, or Alabama. Each has a number of skilled aerospace workers available.

That in no way changes the fact Boeing had to move some production out of WA. More than half of the Seattle area workforce is over 50. Huge issue facing them in a few years when all those old hands retire. The good news for Boening is that the union will likely take a hit as well as younger workers are far less likely to be union supporters.

Further, if unionization happens at the SC plant, that shouldn't improve the production by itself. It will still be the same workers doing the same jobs. Yet my gut tells me that suddenly production will increase. The reason for that is simple. The union hacks in WA will suddenly stop creating issues or will overlook other minor ones.

To expect a brand new facility to hit the ground running at the same level as one that has been around for the better part of a century, is unrealistic. Particularly in a bidness as complicated as building ginormous airliners. It has jack fukking shit to do with being union or not.

Lefty does make a good point about south carolina prolly not being the ideal choice. I think Florida would have been better as there are an assload of former NASA folks down there who are looking for yobs.

Moving Sale wrote:Enforce antitrust, repeal Wickard, reduce the military industrial complex and set reasonable tariffs. It could be fixed in a week.

Bingo. I'll add that the Repatriation Tax should be repealed or severely reduced.

smackaholic wrote:

Moving Sale wrote:It could be fixed in a week.

For once, I think I actually agree with you.

Easy there, 'holic...

He's not talking about your yard...

88 wrote: I would support all of those proposals. No bullshit.

Outside of the Ruling Class, who wouldn't?

Concepts so very basic that even a black-cock-worshipping, retarded, midget lawyer can figure them out.

Dinsdale wrote:retarded

And yet I'm the one with the california bar card and you are the one digging ditches.

Moving Sale wrote:

Dinsdale wrote:retarded

And yet I'm the one with the california bar card and you are the one digging ditches.

With all the stupidity you vomit across the forum on a daily basis, do really think anyone is impressed? You're an idiot and nearly pitiful.

mvscal wrote:

Moving Sale wrote:

Dinsdale wrote:retarded

And yet I'm the one with the california bar card and you are the one digging ditches.

With all the stupidity you vomit across the forum on a daily basis, do really think anyone is impressed? You're an idiot and nearly pitiful.

Dude -- don't shoot yourself (and the rest of us) in the foot. The little man actually said something reasonable, thought-out, and intelligent in this thread.

How many years has it been since that last happened?

Maybe we should instead offer encouragement, rather than derision... like maybe a false promise of buying him a puppy, or offering to have Diego buy him an ice cream or something.

Personally, I don't give a broken clock a whole lot of credit.